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Who's talking about Sasha, Malia? It's dad, again

First they ridiculize u ,after,they get angry,and then....you win. Ghandi.the object of your worship,Barry, might not be so virtuous after all.

Don't take this wrong, just trying to help...."u" is a letter, not a word.
 
I think we did that because it was the logical and right thing to do after we looked at the facts.....as presented.

What's logical about eliminating cheap labour? Why is something "right", could it have something to do with one's emotions?
 
Its a ploy to disarm criticism of what hes espousing. Something that shouldnt be needed if the ideas are sound and defensible on their own worth. Which doesnt excuse either side.

But if you think having family on the campaign trail, which every politician has since poilitics started, is equivalent to presenting ideas with children as a screen to their criticism is acceptable...well then, I dont think the OP is being as partisan as you are.


Oh please, what Obama does is nothing compared to Republican politicians using their own sick children as poster child for the pro-life movement, but of course those children are "proof" of their pro-life beliefs, whereas Obama is an idiot whose every action is part of a complex "ploy" he masterminded to destroy America - seems the rose-tinted glass comes equipped with hypocrisy and intelligence filter.
 
What's logical about eliminating cheap labour? Why is something "right", could it have something to do with one's emotions?
Conscience not emotions.do not mix them up.that's how u know right from wrong.
 
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First they ridiculize u ,after,they get angry,and then....you win. Ghandi.the object of your worship,Barry, might not be so virtuous after all.

What? This isnt some social movement bud which was the perspective Gandhi was talking about. Plus you got the quote wrong: "First they criticize you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Also you trying to make a subject over this is pathetic.
 
Oh please, what Obama does is nothing compared to Republican politicians using their own sick children as poster child for the pro-life movement, but of course those children are "proof" of their pro-life beliefs, whereas Obama is an idiot whose every action is part of a complex "ploy" he masterminded to destroy America - seems the rose-tinted glass comes equipped with hypocrisy and intelligence filter.


Something you would not need to do if your ideas were of good merit in and of themselves. Why can the ideas not just be discussed? Why bring his children into the mix of presenting a policy idea? Im saying we can discuss his idea on the face of it without anecdotal evidence from his children to shield the idea from some harsher criticisms. You have a 30 foot strawman running with your asinine statement that isnt close to what I said.

BTW...undisclosed? Not so much.
 
ttern
What? This isnt some social movement bud which was the perspective Gandhi was talking about. Plus you got the quote wrong: "First they criticize you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Also you trying to make a subject over this is pathetic.

Is ''bud'' a word redress?
Anyway the quote,thanks for looking it up,can apply to many things.for instance,it fits your posting pattern like a glove.
 
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ttern

Is ''bud'' a word redress?
Anyway the quote,thanks for looking it up,can apply to many things.for instance,it fits your posting pattern like a glove.


I am getting a chuckle out of a self declared "Socialist" from KS, trying to lecture to you about socialism....heh, heh.....


j-mac
 
ttern

Is ''bud'' a word redress?
Yes "bud" is a word Fubar.

Anyway the quote,thanks for looking it up,can apply to many things.for instance,it fits your posting pattern like a glove.
Hahahah i still find it hilarious that you think this is some sort of righteous mission to somehow prove that sense Obama used his kids in a policy speech that its evil to do.
 
I am getting a chuckle out of a self declared "Socialist" from KS, trying to lecture to you about socialism....heh, heh.....


j-mac

I'm not lecturing him about socialism....
 
I am getting a chuckle out of a self declared "Socialist" from KS, trying to lecture to you about socialism....heh, heh.....


j-mac

That would be like a hyper-partisan lecturing some one on doing something partisan....
 
Don't buy the hype people...This President is desperate. Never mind the outrage if a republican had said anything concerning Obama's children which they wouldn't, but Barry brings them up in the fashion that liberals always turn to what I like to call the unassailable victim, although in this case Obama is so worried that he has used his own children in this ploy over, and over again...And why?

Maybe this is but one reason....




Like I said before, This clown has to go! I will vote for a sock over Obama.


j-mac

You're kidding, right?
 
Good God, read the article from THE AP!!!! He is using his kids as political props, much like a coward does.


j-mac

So, when Palin dragged her spawn around with here everywhere she went, that wasn't what she was doing? When Santorum's brood is trotted up on stage, that's not what he is doing? When Romney brings his smiling automotons on stage with him, what's he doing?

Name one politician with kids who didn't use their kids to establish them as "family friendly"?

****, Dan Quayle's son BORROWED kids to make himself look like a family man when he's single.

You just get ****ty over it because he's a Democrat in office and you don't like him.

Late last year an uber-conservative friend of mine from college posted about how offended he was that Obama celebrated Hanukkah early because he was going to be out of town on Hanukkah's first night. And how it was SOOOOO sacrilegious to light all of the candles early.

I then posted an article from 2005 showing that Bush did the same thing when the calendar pushed Hanukkah to the same time as the President's Christmas vacation. It was EXACT. They both did the EXACT same thing (they even both had their early celebration on the exact same day of December) and he still said, "It's different".

It's different because you don't like Obama, so everything he does throws you conservatives into drama queen-type hissy fits. That's it. You are not actually offended at this. You just hate him so much that every little thing he does makes you believe that he's trying to destroy the world and you have to scream and rant like a lunatic about it.

It's called politics. Liberals flaked out all the time about Bush. Conservatives are doing the same now - only they'll never admit that they're behaving in the same way, because NOTHING will make a conservative more irate than telling them that liberals and conservatives are all just human beings with many of the same flaws. THAT is what will cause the biggest hissy fit of all. ESPECIALLY if you tell them that they have something in common with Obama, which is love of their children. Obama OBVIOUSLY only had children for the purposes of one day trotting them out onstage to use as tools to show his humanity. It's the same way his spirit planned from its spectral plane before his birth to trick everyone into believing he'd be born in Hawaii, when he was really going to be born in Kenya.
 
Yes "bud" is a word Fubar.


Hahahah i still find it hilarious that you think this is some sort of righteous mission to somehow prove that sense Obama used his kids in a policy speech that its evil to do.

Evil is your word. It is important to see what the strategy of Obama is, and that is what is being focused on here...The fact that you think it is evil? ok...I prefer dishonest, and calculated.

j-mac
 
Evil is your word. It is important to see what the strategy of Obama is, and that is what is being focused on here...The fact that you think it is evil? ok...I prefer dishonest, and calculated.

j-mac

:screwy.............
 
Evil is your word.
What?

It is important to see what the strategy of Obama is, and that is what is being focused on here..
What that he talked about his kids? Not really a controversial strategy at all.. People do it all the time and so does the president. Its called being the chief citizen....

.The fact that you think it is evil? ok...I prefer dishonest, and calculated.

j-mac
WTF are you even talking about?
I never said it was evil...

And how is this dishonest? Calculated? Sure, Its a speech..
 
So, when Palin dragged her spawn around with here everywhere she went, that wasn't what she was doing? When Santorum's brood is trotted up on stage, that's not what he is doing? When Romney brings his smiling automotons on stage with him, what's he doing?

Name one politician with kids who didn't use their kids to establish them as "family friendly"?

As I said before, every politician since politics began trots their family out on the stage. Very few of them bring them into a policy discussion or rationale for a policy.

That may be the difference youre looking for, but then again you may just want to keep this as wide a stance as possible because then you dont have to acknowledge whats being done and why.

Im not saying whether the policy being put forth is wrong or right, Im saying its intellectually dishonest to bring out anecdotal evidence from your children to be part of the basis for a policy rollout. Not evil, just dishonest.
 
:screwy.............

Evil is your word. It is important to see what the strategy of Obama is, and that is what is being focused on here...The fact that you think it is evil? ok...I prefer dishonest, and calculated.

j-mac
Thank u j_Mack quite a straw man there...''evil'' no soup for you Mr DemSoc
 
Look, Opportunity cost has this exactly right. The fact that no one is addressing the point OC is making, but rather instead choosing to wage personal attacks, character attacks, and Allenski style dismissal, dissemination, and mockery without addressing the actual point of the OP which wasn't really the how the President was using his daughters, but rather, why he was using them.....It is a distraction, hint: read the CBO article, ALSO in the OP.....


j-mac
 
Look, Opportunity cost has this exactly right. The fact that no one is addressing the point OC is making, but rather instead choosing to wage personal attacks, character attacks, and Allenski style dismissal, dissemination, and mockery without addressing the actual point of the OP which wasn't really the how the President was using his daughters, but rather, why he was using them.....It is a distraction, hint: read the CBO article, ALSO in the OP.....


j-mac

You are crying for a dad talking about his kids. How the **** are we supposed to take that seriously?
 
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