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Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

Hi Deuce!

Last August, I fell and broke my wrist. The pain was excruciating. Not having any health insurance, I went to a local Imaging Center and paid $150 for an X-Ray and reading. Turns out I fractured my radius and tore some muscles and tendons. The X-Ray guy told me that there was nothing to be done but R.I.C.E and immobilization. I went to WalGreens and bought a wrist brace and wore it till things healed. I found out there was nothing to do but wait and heal. I didn't need a doctor to cup my cheek and tell me it would be OK, or give me some fancy over priced pills. Folks today need to man up and stop being such Oprahfied sissies. A lady friend of mine is a nurse, she tells me some parents rush into the clinic every time junior sneezes. If Obama Care stands, it'll end up costing us all hundreds of billions of dollars each and every year. Oy Vie!

Hey Pea. Glad you mended.

This entire argument with all the libtards, here and elsewhere, is so pathetic. The bottom line is they want to know how much more free-stuff they can get via Obamacare and Obama mandates. I don't care if they buy policies that cover contracepton, abortion, birth, etc. Just pay for it in the policy. What is bull**** is that all these parasites, and some have posted here, think that such benefits should be included and paid for by somneone else. Their threat is "its cheaper for you that way".

**** you libtards. **** you Sandra Fluke, you slut. Do whatever you want. Insure against whatever you want. Just you pay for it.
 
Not my problem. The employee should have to choose between birth control, or pregnancy coverage. Can't have both.

That is the silliest thing I've ever heard. As satire, it might actually work. :2funny:
 
I am not a liberal...
 
I need gas too, should my car insurance cover that? Don't I have a right to gas?


j-mac

Then why have insruance at all, if we are going to say all things we need are equal, regardless of relationship to health.

:coffeepap
 
Yes I am quite aware that we survived millenia without health insurance.

MY POINT: is that it is elective for an employer to even provide insurance (with them paying partial costs) therefore, if they ELECT to provide it as a perk to their employee's then it should be HEALTH insurance. BC SAVES insurance companies MONEY therefore SAVES the employers as well, on more than one front for the employer, less out of work time for their female employee's etc.

An employer does not have to elect for this. An employee can work somewhere who does, or pay for it out of pocket.

There are multitude of plans out their for people who wish to pay for insurance, some plans are hospitalization only and goes up from there... some employers only offer the cheaper insurance such as hospitalization only for their junior/less skilled employee's.

BUT it is ridiculous to say BC is not a benefit to both the employer and the employee, this has nothing to do with liberals, its sheer common sense! And more ridiculous to blame any religion!

Bull****. An employer should be able to decide what they offer in all realms, helath insurance and otherwise. Its for the employer to decide what is cheaper for them.
That's it. If Sandra Fluck wants coverage for contracepton, then let her by a policy that covers such, and pay the premiums. Or let her go out of pocket.

What is complete manure is liberals thinking that free stuff should include contraception ... etc.

No. Free stuff needs to end.
 
Hi Deuce!

Last August, I fell and broke my wrist. The pain was excruciating. Not having any health insurance, I went to a local Imaging Center and paid $150 for an X-Ray and reading. Turns out I fractured my radius and tore some muscles and tendons. The X-Ray guy told me that there was nothing to be done but R.I.C.E and immobilization. I went to WalGreens and bought a wrist brace and wore it till things healed. I found out there was nothing to do but wait and heal. I didn't need a doctor to cup my cheek and tell me it would be OK, or give me some fancy over priced pills. Folks today need to man up and stop being such Oprahfied sissies. A lady friend of mine is a nurse, she tells me some parents rush into the clinic every time junior sneezes. If Obama Care stands, it'll end up costing us all hundreds of billions of dollars each and every year. Oy Vie!

What would you have done if you discovered a malignant tumor in your gut?
 
The issue that is a non issue with the people. To quote the Clinton campaign from the 1990's...."It's the economy stupids".

Folks are concerned with how they will feed their kids, Folks are concerned with Over 8% unemployment for the longest sustained time in the history of this country since the great depression, folks are concerned with 19% underemployment, folks are concerned with 4+ trillion dollars in new debt in less than 3 years, folks are concerned with home foreclosures continuing unabated by any Obama plan, folks are concerned with gasoline heading toward $5 a gallon driving up prices of all consumer goods and food prices hitting the stratosphere and folks are concerned with GDP growth below 2% which means we're losing ground. What they aren't concerned with is whether employers should be allowed not to cover contraception. We just want to pay our bills and feed our kids. Yet the Democrats are yeowing about contraception? How outta touch is that?

When you explain to most people that birth control isn't about not getting pregnant, there are many other female issue that require birth control drugs for treatment?
 
Then why have insruance at all, if we are going to say all things we need are equal, regardless of relationship to health.

:coffeepap

Pay for your own insurance. That's the debate. Make the chouce to go out-of-pocket, or pay for the level coverage you want in a pool of other folks who pay. All this BS is about liberals thinking they are owed free contraceptive coverage.

**** that.
 
Bull****. An employer should be able to decide what they offer in all realms, helath insurance and otherwise. Its for the employer to decide what is cheaper for them.
That's it. If Sandra Fluck wants coverage for contracepton, then let her by a policy that covers such, and pay the premiums. Or let her go out of pocket.

What is complete manure is liberals thinking that free stuff should include contraception ... etc.

No. Free stuff needs to end.


You are less than worth my time in speaking with. Filthy language and insults, this is the cry the ignorant use when they have no argument, not an intellectual who discusses topics intelligently. Goodbye
 
Employers should not cheap out on health care. If you offer health care, offer health care. Don't go bargain shopping with peoples lives and health.
 
You are less than worth my time in speaking with. Filthy language and insults, this is the cry the ignorant use when they have no argument, not an intellectual who discusses topics intelligently. Goodbye

Don't let the door hit you in the butt then.

I am the painful truth for the rest of you "I am not a liberal" liberals. The bottom line is free stuff. Sandra Fluke was about liberal parasites. Sandra, and the rest of you, have full access to purchase contraception. Via insurance, or medical prescription, orf the bathrooms where your boyfriends buy their gasoline. Nothing stopping slut Sandra's ****-du-jour from contraception except $2 and a trip to the all night CVS. Ribbed. Colored. Flavored.

What you do not have is a right to demand someone else pay for it besides you. Stop being wussies.
 
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Pay for your own insurance. That's the debate. Make the chouce to go out-of-pocket, or pay for the level coverage you want in a pool of other folks who pay. All this BS is about liberals thinking they are owed free contraceptive coverage.

**** that.

So, insurance isn't part of my compensaion, up to me to decide how it is used? You better tell Catholic leadership becasue they always told me it was salary.

;)
 
What would you have done if you discovered a malignant tumor in your gut?

They X-Rayed my wrist, I doubt a malignant tumor in my gut would have shown on that one. Do you want me to have a malignant tumor in my gut?
 
When you explain to most people that birth control isn't about not getting pregnant, there are many other female issue that require birth control drugs for treatment?

Those would already be covered as a medical necessity. Why do you ask?
 
Employers should not cheap out on health care. If you offer health care, offer health care. Don't go bargain shopping with peoples lives and health.

Explain to us what "cheaping out" is. Is that when an employer offers different elective policies, and YOU have to pay the premium, instead of someone else paying for you ?

Pay for your own friggin contraception.
 
So, insurance isn't part of my compensaion, up to me to decide how it is used? You better tell Catholic leadership becasue they always told me it was salary.

;)

Let me guess. Its not fair that you don't get more free stuff. ;)
 
Don't let the door hit you in the butt then.

I am the painful truth for the rest of you "I am not a liberal" liberals. The bottom line is free stuff. Sandra Fluke was about liberal parasites. Sandra, and the rest of you, have full access to purchase contraception. Via insurance, or medical prescription, orf the bathrooms where your boyfriends buy their gasoline. Nothing stopping slut Sandra's ****-du-jour from contraception except $2 and a trip to the all night CVS. Ribbed. Colored. Flavored.

What you do not have is a right to demand someone else pay for it besides you. Stop being wussies.

I am probably sorry. I found myself extremely offended at your language, i am not used to this kind of thing. When I walk into a room everyone changes their behavior, although I know they do, I am also used to it. No one uses foul language around me in real life, no one tells strange jokes or behaves poorly in my company. It does not matter if I am around homeless people or the least educated of our society or the highest personages in society, everyone changes into little angels around me.

It is difficult for me to be around it because I cannot remember a day I was around bad language or bad behavior... I am simply not used to it.

and I am sure the door wont hit me on my way out.
 
I am probably sorry. I found myself extremely offended at your language, i am not used to this kind of thing. When I walk into a room everyone changes their behavior, although I know they do, I am also used to it. No one uses foul language around me in real life, no one tells strange jokes or behaves poorly in my company. It does not matter if I am around homeless people or the least educated of our society or the highest personages in society, everyone changes into little angels around me.

It is difficult for me to be around it because I cannot remember a day I was around bad language or bad behavior... I am simply not used to it.

and I am sure the door wont hit me on my way out.

You were not insulted. Post the quote that you think insulted you.

You were taken to task. Perhaps you were not ready for it, or lacked a rebuttal.

Tall weeds here with a few of us. Big dogs only. Nothing personal.

In this debate, the bottom line is free stuff. Either you are for redistibution of wealth, via coverage for all this screw-around crap, or you are not. No one is denying anyone access to contraception.

You need to re-examine your arguments, as you claim to be not liberal, but are advocating free stuff.
 
Hi Deuce!

Last August, I fell and broke my wrist. The pain was excruciating. Not having any health insurance, I went to a local Imaging Center and paid $150 for an X-Ray and reading. Turns out I fractured my radius and tore some muscles and tendons. The X-Ray guy told me that there was nothing to be done but R.I.C.E and immobilization. I went to WalGreens and bought a wrist brace and wore it till things healed. I found out there was nothing to do but wait and heal. I didn't need a doctor to cup my cheek and tell me it would be OK, or give me some fancy over priced pills. Folks today need to man up and stop being such Oprahfied sissies. A lady friend of mine is a nurse, she tells me some parents rush into the clinic every time junior sneezes. If Obama Care stands, it'll end up costing us all hundreds of billions of dollars each and every year. Oy Vie!

Normally I wouldn't wish Ill of people, but wouldn't it be ironic if your bone didn't set right and you lost mobility because of it?

Edit: the main problem with insurance us that we expect employers to pay for it directly instead of giving us the money to get it ourselves. Damn you Nixon and your HMOs

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Let me guess. Its not fair that you don't get more free stuff. ;)

No. I didn't say that. Read it carefully. It's part of MY compensation. Like my paycheck. That's what they told me when I worked at a Catholic church.
 
Employers should not cheap out on health care. If you offer health care, offer health care. Don't go bargain shopping with peoples lives and health.
My family owns a business. If they provided health insurance to their employees, they'd have no chance of making a profit.
 
My family owns a business. If they provided health insurance to their employees, they'd have no chance of making a profit.

Yet another reason to consider UHC.
 
I couldnt care less if an employer picks insurance that covers BC or not but what does matter is if that employer makes that decision solely based on religion. Then its a problem and thats not allowed.

You could replace BC with anything :shrug:

this is the only real issue here to be made, if theres going to be one made anyway.
I didnt read this whole thing but:
is anybody actually saying theres a right to BC?
 
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