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Captain America said:
What's the price of carrying a baby 9 months and the costs of delivery these days?

If I were the insurance man, I'd rather buy the lady's birth control pills instead of having to pay for several deliveries and adding multiple dependants on her policy.

This isn't about saving money for employers or insurance companies. That's just the excuse the social conservatives are using.

Just more rightwing attempts to piss in your hair and convince you it's raining. Same ****, different day.

Smart people see through this.
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Since when does the alternative to not funding BCP automatically mean paying for mutliple births?
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
Since when does the alternative to not funding BCP automatically mean paying for mutliple births?
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Medical insurance has to cover pregnancy and birth. It's mandatory.
 
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Tucker Case said:
Medical insurance has to cover pregnancy and birth. It's mandatory.
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I understand that. Not paying for BCP doesn't automatically default to paying for multiple births, which a poster stated. That's my point. That would be like saying something like...unless my auto insurance pays for my oil changes, they will have to pay for a new engine.
 
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Captain America said:
What's the price of carrying a baby 9 months and the costs of delivery these days?

If I were the insurance man, I'd rather buy the lady's birth control pills instead of having to pay for several deliveries and adding multiple dependants on her policy.

This isn't about saving money for employers or insurance companies. That's just the excuse the social conservatives are using.

Just more rightwing attempts to piss in your hair and convince you it's raining. Same ****, different day.

Smart people see through this.
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I understand that you are so certain.

Unfortunately the people that actually studied the issue (and the studies quoted by Obama) are not quite so certain.

Additionally, the insurance companies have indicated there will not be any savings and most of them indicated it will actually cost them more.

It seems that your certainty is really just based on your ideology.

Providing free BC to everyone very well could be more expensive per year for the insurance company then the number of additional births created by not providing free BC to everyone.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
I understand that. Not paying for BCP doesn't automatically default to paying for multiple births, which a poster stated.
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It does over the long haul if the people cannot afford their birth control prescription.

Auto insurance has nothing to do with new engines or oil changes, btw.
 
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buck said:
I understand that you are so certain.

Unfortunately the people that actually studied the issue (and the studies quoted by Obama) are not quite so certain.

Additionally, the insurance companies have indicated there will not be any savings and most of them indicated it will actually cost them more.

It seems that your certainty is really just based on your ideology.

Providing free BC to everyone very well could be more expensive per year for the insurance company then the number of additional births created by not providing free BC to everyone.
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But, but, but... it's *ONLY* 4 dollars!11!1!1!11!!!!!!!
 
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Middleground said:
But, but, but... it's *ONLY* 4 dollars!11!1!1!11!!!!!!!
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I never said that... but you bring up a good point:

But, but, but... it's so expensive that no one could ever afford it unless insurance gives it to them for free!11!1!1!11!!!!!!!
 
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Tucker Case said:
It does over the long haul if the people cannot afford their birth control prescription.

Auto insurance has nothing to do with new engines or oil changes, btw.
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That's my point. Health insurance has nothing to do with BCP. Not everyone has insurance that pays for BCP.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
That's my point. Health insurance has nothing to do with BCP. Not everyone has insurance that pays for BCP.
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That is largely your opinion. However, it may surprise you that there are folks who disagree.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
That's my point. Health insurance has nothing to do with BCP. Not everyone has insurance that pays for BCP.
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You're obviously correct. You would only have to compare the cost of the BC for 100 or-so million women to the increased number of births that result due to not providing free BC (not all births). They don't want to see that though. They feel it's just not fair that women should have to pay their own BC, so that's all they see.
 
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If birth control is a health issue then health insurance should cover it, but its not. Health insurance should not be used to compensate for a persons lack of judgements when having sex.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
That's my point. Health insurance has nothing to do with BCP. Not everyone has insurance that pays for BCP.
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Bloeme - everyone should.
 
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muciti said:
If birth control is a health issue then health insurance should cover it, but its not. Health insurance should not be used to compensate for a persons lack of judgements when having sex.
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Actually, someone lacking judgement concerning sex would be to have sex without birth control, assuming you don't want to make babies. There are many reasons to have birth control, they include both medical reasons and reasons dealing with responsibility. There are also soceital reasons to be concerned about birth control. It is just one of the things both a responsible person and a resaonable people (society) pay attention to.
 
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buck said:
Insurance plans cover prescriptions that correct a medical defect/problem. Allergy pils and hormone therapy would fall into that category. BC pills being used for contraception is elective, much like recreational viagra and condoms (Has Obama ordered that these be covered?). So, it's not quite as cut and dry as your link tries to make it.
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Birth control pills ARE used as hormone therapy, that is exactly why they should be covered; they are not used just to prevent pregnancy. In fact this is exactly what Sandra Fluke spoke about in her testimony.
 
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pbrauer said:
Birth control pills ARE used as hormone therapy, that is exactly why they should be covered; they are not used just to prevent pregnancy. In fact this is exactly what Sandra Fluke spoke about in her testimony.
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No kidding. And when they are used for hormone therapy, they are currently covered by the insurance plans of religious organizations. When they are used as contraception, they are not covered by some insurance policies. Try to keep up. Please.
 
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buck said:
Absolutely correct. Georgetown does (and should be required to) cover BC pills prescribed by a doctor as hormone therapy. But some will never be able to get past the source.
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Then let them get a copy of the insurance policy.
 
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Grant said:
Never mind what I'm trying to do.

Do you have a point?
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Of course I had a point: To get an answer to my question. Surely you understand how questions work, no?
 
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buck said:
You're obviously correct. You would only have to compare the cost of the BC for 100 or-so million women to the increased number of births that result due to not providing free BC (not all births). They don't want to see that though. They feel it's just not fair that women should have to pay their own BC, so that's all they see.
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:prof If it's covered by private insurance, it's not free Birth control. They are paying for it in their premiums.
 
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buck said:
No kidding. And when they are used for hormone therapy, they are currently covered by the insurance plans of religious organizations. When they are used as contraception, they are not covered by some insurance policies. Try to keep up. Please.
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Apparently that is not always the case, which is the point.
 
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Tucker Case said:
:prof If it's covered by private insurance, it's not free Birth control. They are paying for it in their premiums.
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I'm not sure why they get spouting this stuff. Did someone on fox pass along this false point to try and pound?
 
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Tucker Case said:
Substantially more than the cost of birth control annually, that's for sure. But don't bother with logic in an emotional debate.
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I know. What was I thinking? I'm addicted to logic I guess. Not much fun at parties. My bad.
 
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