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AdamT said:
Oh, okay, I found what Letterman said. That was totally uncalled for, and it looks like he took some heat for it, just like Limbaugh did. Fire Letterman | Fire David Letterman | Late Show | Late Show with David Letterman | Boycott CBS | FireLetterman.com First reactions from Letterman Sponsors (Palin Ping! - No.23 - June 11, 2009)
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I appreciate your letterman response, but his slaughtering pales in comparison to limbaugh, by the same people in this very thread.

And no, I don't accept the argument that someone is instantly transformed into a public figure just because they exercise their first amendment right to speak out on an issue that they deem important.
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She is an activist, she by definition wants to become a public figure to have her voice. as to that, I see no difference in calling either her or palin a "twat", "prostitute", "slut", etc...
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I appreciate your letterman response, but his slaughtering pales in comparison to limbaugh, by the same people in this very thread.



She is an activist, she by definition wants to become a public figure to have her voice. as to that, I see no difference in calling either her or palin a "twat", "prostitute", "slut", etc...
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She's a student who wanted to speak to a particular issue. She doesn't make any money from it. It isn't her career choice. Palin, in contrast, has been a professional politician for most of her adult life, seeking local, state, and national offices. She has her own TV show. She's written books. She's making millions of dollars from her fame. It's very hard to take you seriously if you claim you don't see a distinction.
 
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AdamT said:
She's a student who wanted to speak to a particular issue. She doesn't make any money from it. It isn't her career choice. Palin, in contrast, has been a professional politician for most of her adult life, seeking local, state, and national offices. She has her own TV show. She's written books. She's making millions of dollars from her fame.
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she's 30, went to this school, as an activist, if she didn't like thier policies she could have chosen any. But she chose this one. Why? if you believe this wasn't all coordinated, to help obama's BC catholic church thing from a couple weeks ago, you may be a bit gullible here. Do you really think Obama's wanting to force the catholic church to provide Birth control, was mere coincidence to 30 year old law student activist flukes fake "testimony" to a bunch of democrats?

The "testimony" the media played up, and you all bought that it was a congresional hearing? Seriously? :lamo


It's very hard to take you seriously if you claim you don't see a distinction.
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That's good, because I figured out a while ago, not to take you seriously.... But ok, in your book, it's less not ok to call some women "sluts" than others. and here we were on such a good track. :shrug:
 
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minnie616 said:
It has been my experience that insurance companies try to find reasons to avoid paying for a treatment if they can.
It is easy for the insurance companies who do not cover any type of birth control to refuse coverage of BC pills for medical issues because after all a side effect of the BC medication is advoiding pregnancy.

Did you know that almost half of the woman who take birth control have at least one other reason ( besides preventing pregnancies) for taking them?

From this editorial:


Editorial: Birth control serves many purposes | Kansan.com
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I don't think anyone has a problem with a medical reason for being prescribed Birth Control pills if it treats a medically valid reason, at that point then insurance would indeed cover the cost, or a great deal of the cost of the prescription. It should be noted that Ms. Fluke brought in the PCOS reason for needing the pill, and if the insurance does cover it (such as Georgetown's policy does for medically approved treatments) then there is no problem. But only between 1 in 10, to 1 in 20 women suffer from these cysts to begin with, and the normal course of treatment is to wait and see if they go away as most do on their own....

Bringing in these medical reasons for having a blanket coverage of free contraception when it is a relatively small amount of the total overall use of the drug, is IMHO a smoke screen.

j-mac
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
she's 30, went to this school, as an activist, if she didn't like thier policies she could have chosen any. But she chose this one. Why? if you believe this wasn't all coordinated, to help obama's BC catholic church thing from a couple weeks ago, you may be a bit gullible here. Do you really think Obama's wanting to force the catholic church to provide Birth control, was mere coincidence to 30 year old law student activist flukes fake "testimony" to a bunch of democrats?

The "testimony" the media played up, and you all bought that it was a congresional hearing? Seriously? :lamo


That's good, because I figured out a while ago, not to take you seriously.... But ok, in your book, it's less not ok to call some women "sluts" than others. and here we were on such a good track. :shrug:
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She's 30? WTF does that have to do with anything? An activist? As mentioned earlier, her main area of interest was domestic violence -- not contraception.

Otherwise, you're just getting increasingly shrill and incoherent. Obama has never tried to get the Catholic church to provide birth control.
 
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AdamT said:
She's 30? WTF does that have to do with anything? An activist? As mentioned earlier, her main area of interest was domestic violence -- not contraception.

Otherwise, you're just getting increasingly shrill and incoherent. Obama has never tried to get the Catholic church to provide birth control.
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Sorry but there is no other way to say this....ahem....That sir, is a lie.


j-mac
 
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j-mac said:
Sorry but there is no other way to say this....ahem....That sir, is a lie.


j-mac
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And your evidence would be....
 
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AdamT said:
And your evidence would be....
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Wow!

I guess you never really understood what this orchestrated Fluke kerfuffle was all about either then.
 
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This just gets funnier and funnier by the week. The idea that
1- I hate what Limbaugh said... oops sorry ... I hate what "RUSH said", but
2- I hate even more what any liberals said years ago because I hate liberals because I hate liberals

is to debate as is trying to make sense out of the Hatfields and the McCoys in the appalachian hill wars.

there is no point to it beyond trying to turn the tables on your hated ideological enemies to take some of the heat off your own kind.
 
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haymarket said:
This just gets funnier and funnier by the week. The idea that
1- I hate what Limbaugh said... oops sorry ... I hate what "RUSH said", but
2- I hate even more what any liberals said years ago because I hate liberals because I hate liberals

is to debate as is trying to make sense out of the Hatfields and the McCoys in the appalachian hill wars.

there is no point to it beyond trying to turn the tables on your hated ideological enemies to take some of the heat off your own kind.
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OMG...I agree.....I am going to take my temp....heh, heh.....peace.


j-mac
 
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j-mac said:
OMG...I agree.....I am going to take my temp....heh, heh.....peace.


j-mac
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Perhaps we should check on the weather front in Hades?

glad to see we agree j-mac. :cool:
 
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roughdraft274 said:
Catholic affiliated organizations (IE: Universities, hospitals) fall under the law. The actual churches do not, and never have.
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Exactly right.
 
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roughdraft274 said:
Catholic affiliated organizations (IE: Universities, hospitals) fall under the law. The actual churches do not, and never have.
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Yeah so? Are not Catholic Universities, and Hospitals under the direction of the Church? You can no more divorce the doctrine from Notre Dame from the Church, than you can Obama from Rev. Wright.....doh.


j-mac
 
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j-mac said:
Yeah so? Are not Catholic Universities, and Hospitals under the direction of the Church? You can no more divorce the doctrine from Notre Dame from the Church, than you can Obama from Rev. Wright.....doh.


j-mac
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No. Most often they hire administrators, not clergy. So they are not in any churches or equivilent.
 
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Boo Radley said:
No. Most often they hire administrators, not clergy. So they are not in any churches or equivilent.
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Are you saying that Notre Dame for example is not under the direction of the Catholic Church?


j-mac

PS. Just so you know, here is what the Pope had to say on the issue...

Pope Benedict XVI, himself a former university professor, made his position clear when he spoke to Catholic educators in Washington, D.C., on April 17, 2008:

Teachers and administrators, whether in universities or schools, have the duty and privilege to ensure that students receive instruction in Catholic doctrine and practice. This requires that public witness to the way of Christ, as found in the Gospel and upheld by the Church’s magisterium, shapes all aspects of an institution’s life, both inside and outside the classroom.

http://www.americamagazine.org/content/article.cfm?article_id=11840
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AdamT said:
I think that's certainly a part of it. There was obviously a lot of pent-up anger at Limbaugh.

But I don't buy the comparison to what Maher and others have done. The public/private figure distinction is legitimate, and Maher's worst comments came in his stand-up routine and not during his semi-comedy-semi-political show.
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That's because he won't be bleeped.
 
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j-mac said:
Are you saying that Notre Dame for example is not under the direction of the Catholic Church?


j-mac
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"Since 1967, Notre Dame has been governed by a Board of Trustees, and not directly by the leadership of Holy Cross. The university is governed by two groups, the Board of Fellows and the Board of Trustees.[14] The Fellows of the University are a group of six Holy Cross religious and six lay members who have final say over the operation of the university. The fellows vote on potential Trustees and sign off on all major decisions by that body. The trustees select the president from the United States Province of the Congregation of Holy Cross. In addition to the president, these groups help to maintain the bylaws and elect other officers of the university.[15] Finally, the provost of the university, currently Dr. Thomas Burish, works under the president to oversee many of the academic activities and functions of the university."
 
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AdamT said:
Exactly right.
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No, no it is not 'exactly right'


j-mac

Here, I'll even use a source you can respect....

Chicago Archbishop Cardinal Francis George on Sunday threatened that, because the Catholic Church "is being told she must 'give up'" its religious freedom in response to the Obama administration's birth control mandate, Catholic institutions such as hospitals and universities may face no other option but to close down.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/29/cardinal-george-birth-con_n_1307749.html
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AdamT said:
"Since 1967, Notre Dame has been governed by a Board of Trustees, and not directly by the leadership of Holy Cross. The university is governed by two groups, the Board of Fellows and the Board of Trustees.[14] The Fellows of the University are a group of six Holy Cross religious and six lay members who have final say over the operation of the university. The fellows vote on potential Trustees and sign off on all major decisions by that body. The trustees select the president from the United States Province of the Congregation of Holy Cross. In addition to the president, these groups help to maintain the bylaws and elect other officers of the university.[15] Finally, the provost of the university, currently Dr. Thomas Burish, works under the president to oversee many of the academic activities and functions of the university."
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Looks like religious direction and guidance is still directing Notre Dame to me. If the religious leaders have the final say.../shrug
 
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AdamT said:
"Since 1967, Notre Dame has been governed by a Board of Trustees, and not directly by the leadership of Holy Cross. The university is governed by two groups, the Board of Fellows and the Board of Trustees.[14] The Fellows of the University are a group of six Holy Cross religious and six lay members who have final say over the operation of the university. The fellows vote on potential Trustees and sign off on all major decisions by that body. The trustees select the president from the United States Province of the Congregation of Holy Cross. In addition to the president, these groups help to maintain the bylaws and elect other officers of the university.[15] Finally, the provost of the university, currently Dr. Thomas Burish, works under the president to oversee many of the academic activities and functions of the university."
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Yeah, so what? So they have a board that oversees the University by laws, and academic activities. I assure you that the University is doctrinally run by the Church.

j-mac
 
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j-mac said:
Yeah, so what? So they have a board that oversees the University by laws, and academic activities. I assure you that the University is doctrinally run by the Church.

j-mac
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It's not run by the church. If you stick a cross on the front of googles office building it doesn't turn them into a church. There is a difference between the church and a private institution that declares itself a particular religion.
 
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roughdraft274 said:
It's not run by the church. If you stick a cross on the front of googles office building it doesn't turn them into a church. There is a difference between the church and a private institution that declares itself a particular religion.
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If the board of directors were picked from church officials and members of a congregation and then run according to the rules of that church, it would come pretty close. Bad analogy is bad.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Looks like religious direction and guidance is still directing Notre Dame to me. If the religious leaders have the final say.../shrug
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If you look closer you'll see that the board is half religious and half not, so it's not controlled by the church, though the church has a good amount of control. Is it part of the church? No, it isn't.
 
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