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AdamT said:
You know the difference between "costs" and "can cost", right?
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I'll pass on the semantics game. You understand the math correct? You understand how that was derived then... so that's where it came from. :shrug:
 
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Ockham said:
I'll pass on the semantics game. You understand the math correct? You understand how that was derived then... so that's where it came from. :shrug:
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I see why you want to focus on the trees rather than the forest. :lol:
 
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AdamT said:
I see why you want to focus on the trees rather than the forest. :lol:
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My only interest was to derive the math - and it works out. Too many dishonest discussions quibbling about vocabulary and it's many definitions (not identifying anyone in this thread - other threads)... so I'm not interested. If I was, I'd have studied linguistics or language anthropology.
 
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Ockham said:
Well, it's math right?



Law school is usually 3 years = 36 months. 36 * $83 per month = $3,000 approximately. Rev's numbers were actually a little high.
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Sandra Fluke said:
Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school.
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She did not say it costs that for most women. Rev is trying to act like she insinuated that 100 a month is the norm. She did not say that. That's why I said
Where did she say that for most women, birth control costs 100 a month?
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Instead of
Where did she say that birth control can cost 100 a month?
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She did say it can cost that much, she never even insinuated that it was the average. Which is why Rev is, yet again, wrong, and yet again shows that conservatives are willing to lie in order to attack this woman for the outrageous offense of speaking her opinion and daring to be involved in the political process. If this woman had been in a tea party protest and liberals were misconstruing what she had said, Rev and other conservatives would be screaming from the roof top about how unfair it is to her, but since she is expressing an opinion that he doesn't agree with, now it's ok to twist what she said, call her a sheep etc. etc.
 
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Ockham said:
My only interest was to derive the math - and it works out. Too many dishonest discussions quibbling about vocabulary and it's many definitions (not identifying anyone in this thread - other threads)... so I'm not interested. If I was, I'd have studied linguistics or language anthropology.
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Believe it or not, vocabulary is a big deal. It's not a strenuous exercise of your abilities to understand the difference between saying that something "can cost" and that "the average cost is". If you really want to act as though that takes way too much effort on your part then I'm guessing that it's much more likely that you realized what the argument was, that Rev is wrong, and rather just admit it, you'd rather act like words have no meaning.
 
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roughdraft274 said:
Where did she say that for most women, birth control costs 100 a month?

Wow, you guys really hate this woman, ya'll are still making up crap that she said.
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I think it's that she's getting laid and they aren't...
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
i never said that, I believe her number was "up to 1800" a month and followed up with her fellow law students couldnt afford that or some such.

Feel free to prove me wrong.
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She said:
“And so, I’m here today to share their voices, and I want to thank you for allowing them – not me – to be heard.

“Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. 40% of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggle financially as a result of this policy.
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Transcript: Sandra Fluke testifies on why women should be allowed access to contraception and reproductive health care | What The Folly?!

Over $3000 a year for 3 years ( the average time a person goes to law school).
If a woman needs to pay $100 out of pocket a month then that adds to over $1,000 a year or more than $3,000 during law school.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
i never said that, I believe her number was "up to 1800" a month and followed up with her fellow law students couldnt afford that or some such.
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You said that she inferred that the worse case scenario was the most common scenario. In reality she said "birth control can cost". You can be in denial about it all day long, and that's all well and good, but you're still wrong. That's the point. You and your ilk are twisting her words. You are angry that someone dare express their opinion so you lie about her being a "plant" because she's a secret activist (even though she disclosed all of her previous work trying to make birth control more accessible) because she dare to argue what she believes in. In that case, why didn't I see any of you bitching about how all of the tea partiers were just "planted activists"? Oh, that's right, you were too busy arguing with the liberals that were saying that the tea partiers were just plants set up by outside groups because the guys on your side are the good ones, lol.

It's funny that you're so fast to call out others for hypocrisy.
 
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What's funny to me is the double standard. We hear all kinds of racist hateful things day in and day out from the MSM. Rush knows how to push their buttons. Even our Mongrel President can't help himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerO4KZDlBY
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
What's funny to me is the double standard. We hear all kinds of racist hateful things day in and day out from the MSM. Rush knows how to push their buttons. Even our Mongrel President can't help himself.

Obama Calls African Americans "Mongrels" on "The View" - YouTube
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You know, you lost me completely with the use of the word mongrel. How would you describe your pedagree?
 
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Boo Radley said:
Good job of of taking things out of context. But I wonder, are you a poe? It's hard to believe any rational person would speak so.
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Explain how it's out of context.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
Explain how it's out of context.
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He's merely saying that race isn't as "balck and white" as it sued to be (so to speak). There is no name calling, no negative connotation. Hard to argue you mean nothing by your iuse of the word. Hence, out of context.
 
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minnie616 said:
I agree. Birth control pills for medical reasons like PCOS should be covered.
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By her own testimony...it is.
 
roughdraft274 said:
You said that she inferred that the worse case scenario was the most common scenario. In reality she said "birth control can cost". You can be in denial about it all day long, and that's all well and good, but you're still wrong. That's the point. You and your ilk are twisting her words. You are angry that someone dare express their opinion so you lie about her being a "plant" because she's a secret activist (even though she disclosed all of her previous work trying to make birth control more accessible) because she dare to argue what she believes in. In that case, why didn't I see any of you bitching about how all of the tea partiers were just "planted activists"? Oh, that's right, you were too busy arguing with the liberals that were saying that the tea partiers were just plants set up by outside groups because the guys on your side are the good ones, lol.

It's funny that you're so fast to call out others for hypocrisy.
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My ilk? Rush is a dirtbag for what he said. I keep saying that but the hacks dont care.

Flukes hands arent clean either though she is an activist, and her testimony was dishonest a worst, divorced from reality at best.


Can someone disagree with fluke and her activism, or is "dissent" no longer the "highest form o patriotism" to your "ilk"?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
My ilk? Rush is a dirtbag for what he said? I keep saying that bu the hacks dont care.
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Good, but I didn't mention Rush.

ReverendHellh0und said:
Flukes hands arent clean either though she is an activist, and her testimony was dishonest a worst, divorced from reality at best.
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Of course, because she disagrees with you, therefor you can twist her words and make crap up.
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Can someone disagree with fluke and her activism, or is "dissent" no longer the "highest form o patriotism" to your "ilk"?
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Lying about what she said is not disagreeing. Once again, you are caught trying to twist what someone is saying.
 
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Well, let me be of assistance to those who think others are misinterpreting. Here's a transcript of what Fluke said:

Transcript of testimony by Sandra Fluke
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
My ilk? Rush is a dirtbag for what he said. I keep saying that but the hacks dont care.

Flukes hands arent clean either though she is an activist, and her testimony was dishonest a worst, divorced from reality at best.


Can someone disagree with fluke and her activism, or is "dissent" no longer the "highest form o patriotism" to your "ilk"?
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What did Fluke say, specifically, that was dishonest? That birth contrl "can" cost as much as $3,000 over three years. That is not dishonest. So what else did you have in mind?
 
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roughdraft274 said:
Believe it or not, vocabulary is a big deal. It's not a strenuous exercise of your abilities to understand the difference between saying that something "can cost" and that "the average cost is". If you really want to act as though that takes way too much effort on your part then I'm guessing that it's much more likely that you realized what the argument was, that Rev is wrong, and rather just admit it, you'd rather act like words have no meaning.
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He was wrong in that he didn't have the exact dollar amount. He actually hurt his own description by making the cost HIGHER than it actually was. Fluke used the 3,000 dollar number so it's all I can go on as far as fact. $83 bucks a month is a fair assessment then.
 
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Ockham said:
He was wrong in that he didn't have the exact dollar amount. He actually hurt his own description by making the cost HIGHER than it actually was. Fluke used the 3,000 dollar number so it's all I can go on as far as fact. $83 bucks a month is a fair assessment then.
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The simple fact is she is a liar. Throughout her testimony she lied, over exaggerated...and please...for the love of all things holy...can someone tell that poor womans 'friend' where she can find a good attorney? Apparently...there are none...at GEORGETOWN LAW...

And people wonder why anecdotal evidence during 'testimony' is such a bad thing.
 
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minnie616 said:
Over $3000 a year for 3 years ( the average time a person goes to law school).
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She didn't say 3,000 a year.

minnie616 said:
If a woman needs to pay $100 out of pocket a month then that adds to over $1,000 a year or more than $3,000 during law school.
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BC pills are all under $100. In fact, most are between $20 to $50 dollars, and let me stress this next part: Without insurance.

What is the Cost of birth control without insurance
Cost of Birth Control Pills - Consumer Information and Prices Paid - CostHelper.com
 
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nota bene said:
Well, let me be of assistance to those who think others are misinterpreting. Here's a transcript of what Fluke said:

Transcript of testimony by Sandra Fluke
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I like the way she is described by the Democrats who invited her as "The Voice The GOP Didn't Want You To Hear!"

Scary stuff!!

Has anyone ever heard of this 30 year old student before her 15 minutes arrived?
 
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