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Explosive Growth of Militias

Someone needs to explain to me how MKULTRABOY isnt trolling and baiting in this entire thread?

Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY
U.S. News - Election, economy spark explosive growth of militias

Thoughts on this? I hope they get whacked by artillery.
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Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY
Apocalyptic hypernationalist patriot cults are innocent victims of the government now!
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Boys will be apocalyptic anti-Obama neonazi Christians I see
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I hop they get hit by the spetnaz and killed in a surgical firefight like ignorant separatists.
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I hope you learn how to post and say something thoughtful.
 
What I suspect is happening, is that the SPLC (not surprisingly) is lumping regular citizen militias in with "hate groups" and trying to paint the picture that they are one and the same. Shame on them for intellectual dishonesty and attempting to use fear to get Obama re-elected.
 
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Taylor said:
Dude. They formed a militia - they're clearly paranoid and prone to violence.

We must shell them with artillery now!!!

DIE!
DIE!
DIE!
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Good response. I should have thought of it. :lamo
MK likes to post pretty funny stuff.
 
WTF is a "regular citizen militia"?
 
AdamT said:
WTF is a "regular citizen militia"?
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You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. Militia groups have been around since the founding, and there are many legitimate citizen militia groups.
 
Cole said:
Color me cynical. The OP (and associated articles) cite 1200 private militias and 2000 different "hate groups".


Anybody have a link to the list that identifies all these different groups.....??
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had you read the report, you would have seen the list.
 
We are being bombarded from news outlets to reality TV with the suggestion of a pending apocalypse. It is no surprise that many have taken it to heart and are preparing for the worse. While it may not be vary likely anytime soon it does make for good ratings.
 
lizzie said:
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. Militia groups have been around since the founding, and there are many legitimate citizen militia groups.
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No, I'm not kidding at all. Who are some of these legitimate citizen militia groups?
 
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lizzie said:
What I suspect is happening, is that the SPLC (not surprisingly) is lumping regular citizen militias in with "hate groups" and trying to paint the picture that they are one and the same. Shame on them for intellectual dishonesty and attempting to use fear to get Obama re-elected.
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Speaking of intellectual dishonesty, what does this have anything to do with Obama?
 
Jerry said:
We don't even use artillery in Afghanistan if the rounds would hit close to populated arias, so it's unlikely artillery would be used against such a militia.
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Yep, laser guided bombs would be a better choice.
 
AdamT said:
No, I'm not kidding at all. Who are some of these legitimate citizen militia groups?
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10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes | LII / Legal Information Institute

a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
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There done.
 
AdamT said:
No, I'm not kidding at all. Who are some of these legitimate citizen militia groups?
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Militia, as in the constitutional sense, is the people. These would be military-oriented people. They are, in effect, civilian soldiers, and they are perfectly legal. I'm sure you are familiar with the modern-day Minutemen. They are an unarmed militia. Other militia groups focus on constitutional issues, and teach or organize groups with similar approaches to government. Militia groups aren't hillbillies in the hills of Kentucky sporting automatic weapons. Those would be outlaws. Militias are lawful citizens who have formed groups, and are not a rebellion movement. They are subject to the law, but are not representatives of the law. Think of them as Boy Scouts with guns.


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MKULTRABOY said:
The left doesnt fear them, they're quite aware that they're toast if they start anything.
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Toast by the military that the left hates so much. :lamo
 
AdamT said:
Hmm, according to that definition, just about everyone in the country between the ages of 17 and 45 is in the militia. In that sense I think they're saying that the unorganized militia is the potential candidate pool for the official militia. I don't read it as authorizing private citizens to organize into paramilitary groups.
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Why would it have to be "authorized"? The practice goes back to Anglo-Saxon times.

It's like saying you need to be "authorized" before you make a speech or publish a blog to the Internet.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Someone needs to explain to me how MKULTRABOY isnt trolling and baiting in this entire thread?

I hope you learn how to post and say something thoughtful.
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Sorry, I was going by the information in the article.
Did you read the article?
 
American said:
Toast by the military that the left hates so much. :lamo
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You'd be surprised to find the military is a solid reflection of the general public's political stances
some people thrive on the fact the military is apprehensive to release political research on the military.
 
AdamT said:
Hmm, according to that definition, just about everyone in the country between the ages of 17 and 45 is in the militia. In that sense I think they're saying that the unorganized militia is the potential candidate pool for the official militia. I don't read it as authorizing private citizens to organize into paramilitary groups.
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That is correct. The reason the draft has a lawful existence and a tier system is to facilitate this, but it's not only for military or paramilitary service I can be deputized by the local sheriff's office or police force during a time of civil unrest or the militia/military however if deputized by a local body I am more likely to be asked to provide my own arms to the effort, or be given a loaner by the deputizing body. There are private militias in existence some good some bad but overall they are still considered part of the overall militia within the U.S.

EDIT - I missed the authorized part. It's a right to assemble not requiring authorization, however any laws broken will recieve appropriate penalties.
 
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MKULTRABOY said:
You'd be surprised to find the military is a solid reflection of the general public's political stances
some people thrive on the fact the military is apprehensive to release political research on the military.
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Yeah, you know everything, you're just smarter than the rest of us. You life experience and education just vastly outmatches everyone around. Wow! :roll:
 
American said:
Yeah, you know everything, you're just smarter than the rest of us. You life experience and education just vastly outmatches everyone around. Wow! :roll:
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What? Getting all sarcastic because I read army times... pfft... sorry.
 
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