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Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

American said:
Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology - UPI.com


We'll be hearing stories of liberals jumping off buildings now, and millions of liberal heads just exploded.

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Good luck with your Rush-hatefest guys.

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I think he is worried because he has said a lot of vile **** and if Rush can get into trouble for calling a I want others to pay for my birth control advocate a slut then he can most certainly get into trouble for all the stuff he has said.He may be on HBO but people can most certainly boycott HBO because of him.
 
VanceMack said:
Actually the 'hypocritical' part has little if anything to do with the 'media figures'...
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either way. this whole thing is like the middle east. "your tribe wronged my tribe at some time in the distant past i must take revenge because my tribe is always perfect" all the while never recognizing that people are individuals. its so sad that almost nobody here seems to have the ability to think beyond groups and pointless stereotypes.
 
MaggieD said:
What I want to know is why this is, or even should be, a partisan issue.

Your daughter, an intelligent, articulate law student who's every parents' dream, has an opportunity to speak before an informally-convened Congressional committee. She gives a very informative narrative, and you're really quite proud of her.

Then, the next day, your daughter is villified on a radio show that purportedly has 12 million listeners. And the next day. And the next.

Why is this a partisan issue? I am gobsmacked that conservatives on this board have lined up against this young woman. Have damn near applauded Rush Limbaugh for his disgraceful besmirching of this woman's name on national radio. If this isn't the most partisan bull**** I've ever seen on DP, I'll vote Democratic in the next election.

As to law students spending $3,000 on birth control? A law student is a student for seven years. So do the math. And don't give me this crap that birth control is available for $4 a month. Even Planned Parenthood, per their website, says the cost is $15 to $50/month. Birth Control Pills - Birth Control Pill - The Pill

If ya'll weren't just interested in playing the Gotcha' Game, you'd be honest enough to recognize that she made an excellent case for birth control pills being covered by all insurance companies (as mandated under Obamacare) because, in many cases, women need them for reasons beyond birth control.

If you can't see that...if you think it's just absolutely fine that Rush Limbaugh tried to make a fool of this woman...if you think his left-handed apology should be sufficient...if you think the Left are partisan hacks...well, I'd suggest ya'll take a good look into your bathroom mirrors.
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Why is this a partisan issue ??? Are you f'ing kidding me??? This entire charade has been nothing but partisan politics.

She was brought in by the Democrats to blunt the damage they inflicted on themselves by forcing religious institution to provide medications that go against their beliefs. They were taking a huge hit on the issue. When they tried to bring this woman in through the backdoor, Republicans blocked her because she wasn't scheduled to testify. The Dems had their own little hearing so this woman could have her say and of course the media was there like good little lap dogs.

The Dems threw this woman out there as bait, and like a dumb ass, Limbaugh bit and gave Dems the opening and diversion they were hoping for all along. The talk is not about the first amendment any more, but is about contraception.

From what I've heard, this woman is not a coed at Georgetown as has been reported. I would be willing to bet that she is simply an activist.
 
jamesrage said:
I think he is worried because he has said a lot of vile **** and if Rush can get into trouble for calling a I want others to pay for my birth control advocate a slut then he can most certainly get into trouble for all the stuff he has said.He may be on HBO but people can most certainly boycott HBO because of him.
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I agree...they are both political shock jocks. It's their edge that people find entertaining. It wasn't long ago Maher lost his show after saying contraversial things after 9/11.

I don't know where this has turned from a guy saying vile things to a law student. We're basically desensitized to vulgar commentary on public officials after hearing it pretty much become the norm. When you turn that vileness onto a private citizens speaking on public policy it's not kosher. We havent' thrown civility that far out yet.

It's the only reason Rush is getting the hammer on this episode and the fact that Maher said something at an extremely sensitive time is the reason he got the hammer. Both of them don't want accountability for what they say....so of course they would defend each other.
 
ARealConservative said:
Maher is a textbook liberal. this is like arguing over 1+1
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'Ya see, THIS is the problem.... Pidgeonholing people. Liberal Conservative blah blah blah. The fact is that most people, no matter how they self-identify, have ALL the traits of Liberalism, Conservatism, and Libertarianism... AT THE SAME TIME, DEPENDING ON THE ISSUE AT HAND. For example, Maher wants to end government funding of non-profits. That is definitely not a Liberal issue. Michael Moore is actually a member of the NRA, which is hardly a Liberal organization, although he does support gun control. Is Moore suffering from schizophrenia? LOL. And take Michael Savage - After allowing himself to be waterboarded, he came out and declared waterboarding to be torture, something you hear from most Liberals.

So here's the deal - Those who pidgeonhole people as Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, without looking at the issue at hand, and using a little gray matter to do a little critical thinking, are either being shallow, intellectually lazy, or just plain dishonest. It's easy to attack someone via labels, but it requires a little thinking ability to debate an issue. Unfortunately, too many people have become intellectually lazy, as well as dishonest, and don't give a damn about debating, only attacking others.

OK, I will now put on my flame proof suit. :mrgreen:
 
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Thunder said:
what evidence do you have of my "selective outrage"?
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Ive done a search of your messages and for some reason have never found ANYTHING from you condemning Mr Maher or Obama for accepting his money because he used such terrible and offensive language. I DID however find you posting numerous times, in numerous threads...re Mr Limbaugh. Yeah...that makes you...'that guy'. And...still waiting...
 
VanceMack said:
Ive done a search of your messages and for some reason have never found ANYTHING from you condemning Mr Maher or Obama for accepting his money because he used such terrible and offensive language....
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Bill Maher...is a comedian.

Rush Limbaugh, is a huge force in American Conservative politics. He is not a comedian.

comparing Bill Maher to Rush Limbaugh, is pretty ****ing stupid.
 
danarhea said:
'Ya see, THIS is the problem.... Pidgeonholing people. Liberal Conservative blah blah blah. The fact is that most people, no matter how they self-identify, have ALL the traits of Liberalism, Conservatism, and Libertarianism... AT THE SAME TIME, DEPENDING ON THE ISSUE AT HAND. For example, Maher wants to end government funding of non-profits. That is definitely not a Liberal issue. Michael Moore is actually a member of the NRA, which is hardly a Liberal organization, although he does support gun control. Is Moore suffering from schizophrenia? LOL. And take Michael Savage - After allowing himself to be waterboarded, he came out and declared waterboarding to be torture, something you hear from most Liberals.

So here's the deal - Those who pidgeonhole people as Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, without looking at the issue at hand, and using a little gray matter to do a little critical thinking, are either being shallow, intellectually lazy, or just plain dishonest. It's easy to attack someone via labels, but it requires a little thinking ability to debate an issue. Unfortunately, too many people have become intellectually lazy, as well as dishonest, and don't give a damn about debating, only attacking others.

OK, now I will put on my flame proof suit.
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Whether he is a 'text book liberal' is irrelevant. What IS relevant is he has used the same language and far worse and was never attacked by the people that have tripped over each other to attack Limbaugh. Maher...Limbaugh...ANYONE...they are free to use whatever language and descriptors they see fit to use. Who they 'are' is already well known.
 
VanceMack said:
Whether he is a 'text book liberal' is irrelevant. What IS relevant is he has used the same language and far worse and was never attacked by the people that have tripped over each other to attack Limbaugh. Maher...Limbaugh...ANYONE...they are free to use whatever language and descriptors they see fit to use. Who they 'are' is already well known.
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oh, save us the faux outrage.
 
MaggieD said:
What I want to know is why this is, or even should be, a partisan issue.

Your daughter, an intelligent, articulate law student who's every parents' dream, has an opportunity to speak before an informally-convened Congressional committee. She gives a very informative narrative, and you're really quite proud of her.

Then, the next day, your daughter is villified on a radio show that purportedly has 12 million listeners. And the next day. And the next.

Why is this a partisan issue? I am gobsmacked that conservatives on this board have lined up against this young woman. Have damn near applauded Rush Limbaugh for his disgraceful besmirching of this woman's name on national radio. If this isn't the most partisan bull**** I've ever seen on DP, I'll vote Democratic in the next election.

As to law students spending $3,000 on birth control? A law student is a student for seven years. So do the math. And don't give me this crap that birth control is available for $4 a month. Even Planned Parenthood, per their website, says the cost is $15 to $50/month. Birth Control Pills - Birth Control Pill - The Pill

If ya'll weren't just interested in playing the Gotcha' Game, you'd be honest enough to recognize that she made an excellent case for birth control pills being covered by all insurance companies (as mandated under Obamacare) because, in many cases, women need them for reasons beyond birth control.

If you can't see that...if you think it's just absolutely fine that Rush Limbaugh tried to make a fool of this woman...if you think his left-handed apology should be sufficient...if you think the Left are partisan hacks...well, I'd suggest ya'll take a good look into your bathroom mirrors.
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Well, I can't speak for anyone else but I've never denied that I have partisan or even hackish tendencies. If Fluke gave convincing, well articulated reasons for her position, than nothing anyone says can make a fool out of her, only she has that power. I also think, though, folks have a right to decide for themselves if her arguments are convincing and it's not really fair to say that disagreeing with her makes someone a hack. I don't think anyone means to defend Rush's comments, heck, Rush doesn't defend his comments, but I think people would just like to see some parity. If what Rush said was wrong and worthy of outrage, then it's wrong for anyone to say it (or things like it). Otherwise, I'd prefer people be honest that the problem they have with Rush is not what he said, but who he is.
 
VanceMack said:
Whether he is a 'text book liberal' is irrelevant. What IS relevant is he has used the same language and far worse and was never attacked by the people that have tripped over each other to attack Limbaugh. Maher...Limbaugh...ANYONE...they are free to use whatever language and descriptors they see fit to use. Who they 'are' is already well known.
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I have tripped over people to attack Limbaugh. I have also tripped over people to attack Maher. I think they are both, whether Liberal or Conservative, bloviated windbags. But thank you for your post, because you just proved, in your own words, my last post about pidgeonholing people. :mrgreen:
 
Thunder said:
Bill Maher...is a comedian.

Rush Limbaugh, is a huge force in American Conservative politics. He is not a comedian.

comparing Bill Maher to Rush Limbaugh, is pretty ****ing stupid.
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Bill Maher hosts a politically driven talk show and has since 2003. The President s adviser is an upcoming guest. He has hosted politically driven shows since the 90's. He and Limbaugh are precisely the same person with regard to job description and format. That you draw that as your distinction and excuse is comical.

Still waiting...
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Nah, he's too cheap, I think he stopped at a stuckeys.
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I'll compromise, Waffle House. :lol:

Do you have a link for it though? I am interested because it does sound pretty funny.
 
Gill said:
He DID address the tweet in question to liberals.
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Watch this: Hey, Conservatives, field better candidates.

I must be a conservative because I addressed conservatives.
 
danarhea said:
'Ya see, THIS is the problem.... Pidgeonholing people. Liberal Conservative blah blah blah. The fact is that most people, no matter how they self-identify, have ALL the traits of Liberalism, Conservatism, and Libertarianism... AT THE SAME TIME, DEPENDING ON THE ISSUE AT HAND. For example, Maher wants to end government funding of non-profits. That is definitely not a Liberal issue. Michael Moore is actually a member of the NRA, which is hardly a Liberal organization, although he does support gun control. Is Moore suffering from schizophrenia? LOL. And take Michael Savage - After allowing himself to be waterboarded, he came out and declared waterboarding to be torture, something you hear from most Liberals.

So here's the deal - Those who pidgeonhole people as Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, without looking at the issue at hand, and using a little gray matter to do a little critical thinking, are either being shallow, intellectually lazy, or just plain dishonest. It's easy to attack someone via labels, but it requires a little thinking ability to debate an issue. Unfortunately, too many people have become intellectually lazy, as well as dishonest, and don't give a damn about debating, only attacking others.

OK, I will now put on my flame proof suit. :mrgreen:
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The waterboarding thing was Mancow I think.
 
jamesrage said:
I think he is worried because he has said a lot of vile **** and if Rush can get into trouble for calling a I want others to pay for my birth control advocate a slut then he can most certainly get into trouble for all the stuff he has said.He may be on HBO but people can most certainly boycott HBO because of him.
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As I pointed out several times in the other Rush thread, where conservatives kept saying that the response to Rush was "liberal media bias," Maher has gotten in far worse trouble for comments that he made. Not only did he lose sponsors -- he had his show CANCELLED.

ABC decided against renewing Maher's contract for Politically Incorrect in 2002, after he made a controversial on-air remark shortly after the September 11 attacks.[15] He agreed with his guest, conservative pundit Dinesh D'Souza, that the 9/11 terrorists did not act in a cowardly manner (in rebuttal to President Bush's statement calling 9/11 hijackers cowards). Maher said, "We have been the cowards. Lobbing cruise missiles from two thousand miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building. Say what you want about it. Not cowardly. You're right." Maher later clarified that his comment was not anti-military in any way whatsoever, referencing his well-documented longstanding support for the American military.[16][17][18]

In the context of the attacks, some corporate advertisers found the comment too insensitive and controversial. Several companies, including FedEx and Sears Roebuck, pulled their advertisements from the show, costing the show more than it returned.

The show was cancelled on June 16, 2002, and the Sinclair Broadcast Group had dropped the show from its ABC-affiliated stations months prior. On June 22, 2002, just six days after the cancellation of Politically Incorrect, Maher received the Los Angeles Press Club president's award (for "championing free speech"). Maher was on the board of judges one year for the PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award.

Maher's remarks after 9/11 were not the first time he had sparked controversy on Politically Incorrect. In the same year, Maher was widely criticized for comparing dogs to retarded children. He apologized for his comments.[19]
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And then, after he got his new show, in a move that actually did have 1st Amendment implications:

In late May 2005, Alabama Congressman Spencer Bachus sent a letter to Time Warner's board of directors requesting Real Time be cancelled after remarks Maher made after noting the military had missed its recruiting goals by 42 percent. Bachus said he felt the comments were demeaning to the military and treasonous. Maher stated his highest regard and support for the troops and asked why the congressman criticized him instead of doing something about the recruitment problem.[
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So it's perfectly understandable that Maher would empathize with Limbaugh's position.
 
Thorgasm said:
The waterboarding thing was Mancow I think.
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Oops, you are right. You just caught me in one of my "retard" moments....

NOTE: Crap, I just did a personal attack on myself. Should I report my post? LOL.
 
danarhea said:
Oops, you are right. You just caught me in one of my "retard" moments....

NOTE: Crap, I just did a personal attack on myself. Should I report my post? LOL.
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"Retard" is politically incorrect.
 
danarhea said:
I have tripped over people to attack Limbaugh. I have also tripped over people to attack Maher. I think they are both, whether Liberal or Conservative, bloviated windbags. But thank you for your post, because you just proved, in your own words, my last post about pidgeonholing people. :mrgreen:
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I will grant you that Im not great at that search engine thing and may have missed the numerous times you went after Maher for using the slut, ****, whore, etc descriptors. If that is the case (and maybe you could steer me to one of those threads) I will gladly accept you arent 'that guy'.
 
danarhea said:
Oops, you are right. You just caught me in one of my "retard" moments....

NOTE: Crap, I just did a personal attack on myself. Should I report my post? LOL.
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And people accuse you of not being conservative. :2razz:
 
VanceMack said:
...If that is the case (and maybe you could steer me to one of those threads) I will gladly accept you arent 'that guy'.
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perhaps you should simply stop labeling people, so you don't make such silly mistakes.

its just a thought.
 
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