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Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

VanceMack said:
that sort of discredits the whole liberal argument. It has been a steady tirade of WHAT was said...not who it was said about. Thats why the congresswoman looked so incredibly stupid. So essentially...your take is that it is a 'winning' strategy to excuse calling women sluts whores, ****s, twats, etc, as long as they are public figures. You REALLY want to stick with that? Personally...Id LOVE to see them try and pull it off. As it is...I stand by my offer. Maher and the democrats will look FAR WORSE than Limbaugh.
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Libel/slander does by definition include what was said. The more injurious the words, the more libel the broadcaster. Saying "she's a liar" (even a ****ing liar) isn't nearly as injurious as calling her a whore. Being called a liar can be taken in context (Right v Left) as "normal" rhetoric. Being called a whore (or embezzler, or druggie, or whatever) could be taken seriously, which in turn would mar the character of the person. At least, that's the law as I understand it, which I admit is as amateur as most people here.

Rev. Falwell was accused of being not only a drunk but of having sex with his mother. He won three (?) cases before it got to the SCOTUS, where it was overturned. I doubt Falwell would have even bothered if Hustler had limited their slam to "lying bastard" or "pompous asshole".
 
MoSurveyor said:
Libel/slander does by definition include what was said. The more injurious the words, the more libel the broadcaster. Saying "she's a liar" (even a ****ing liar) isn't nearly as injurious as calling her a whore. Being called a liar can be taken in context (Right v Left) as "normal" rhetoric. Being called a whore (or embezzler, or druggie, or whatever) could be taken seriously, which in turn would mar the character of the person. At least, that's the law as I understand it, which I admit is as amateur as most people here.

Rev. Falwell was accused of being not only a drunk but of having sex with his mother. He won three (?) cases before it got to the SCOTUS, where it was overturned. I doubt Falwell would have even bothered if Hustler had limited their slam to "lying bastard" or "pompous asshole".
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Overturned you say, wouldn't that be the only one that counts?
 
MoSurveyor said:
Libel/slander does by definition include what was said. The more injurious the words, the more libel the broadcaster. Saying "she's a liar" (even a ****ing liar) isn't nearly as injurious as calling her a whore. Being called a liar can be taken in context (Right v Left) as "normal" rhetoric. Being called a whore (or embezzler, or druggie, or whatever) could be taken seriously, which in turn would mar the character of the person. At least, that's the law as I understand it, which I admit is as amateur as most people here.

Rev. Falwell was accused of being not only a drunk but of having sex with his mother. He won three (?) cases before it got to the SCOTUS, where it was overturned. I doubt Falwell would have even bothered if Hustler had limited their slam to "lying bastard" or "pompous asshole".
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Like I said...I hope people cling to that line of reasoning. Hey all you ladies out there. The left only cares who is being called a slut whore **** and twat and if whoever calls them that contributes to the party. Not THAT they are being called it. Yep...it's going to play well on the big screen.
 
Top Cat said:
Of course it hasn't.

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Is he still on the air? What is his net worth? Any plans for him to go off the air? Meanwhile...democrat lawmakers where quick to condemn the LANGUAGE...not the target...calling Limbaughs comments misogynistic. That same congresswoman's response to Mahers use of the same words? Silence...a refusal to even say "I think that language is ALWAYS inappropriate". Nope....silence. Oh yes...its going to play well. And there is a long time for it to play. I suspect you will see that video and commentary more than a few times. Limbaugh is who he is...what he is. His supporters wont stop listening (and neither will his haters...and be honest...that ****s funny right there). But the hypocrisy of the left on this issue? Its wide screen and blu-ray baby...
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Perhaps some research is in order then, while he embraced his new found fame, he was no more a "public figure" than this fluke person, in fact, he was far less of one.


Joe the Plumber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Oct 12 - Asks a question at Obama rally
Oct 15 - referred to by McCain and Obama as "Joe the Plumber" during Presidential Debates
Oct 15 - appeared on CBS Evening News
Oct 16 - holds a press conference at his home
Oct 16 - appeared on Fox News w/Neil Cavuto
Oct 16 - appeared on Good Morning America, talks with Diane Sawyer
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Aides to the McCain-Palin campaign said on October 24 that they would "spend heavily" on a new TV advertisement invoking Wurzelbacher's nickname. The ad would feature "several different people looking into the camera and saying, 'I'm Joe the Plumber.' One man accuses Obama of wanting to use the man's 'sweat to pay for his trillion dollars in new spending.'"[30] McCain also ran several other commercials with this theme.
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Do you really believe this is the first time?
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First time for what? Each case is a little different - to me "Joe the Plumber" is straight forward. He had no qualms about cashing in on a nationwide reference to "Joe the Plumber" and he repeatedly sought out the spotlight after that. Did they start slamming him on the 17th? 18th? 24th? Wiki doesn't say. Was it Joe Wurzelbacher or "Joe the Plumber" that was being slammed? I'd bet a LOT of people that know "Joe the Plumber" wouldn't know Joe Wurzelbacher from Adam. You guys didn't use Joe Wurzelbacher's name, you said "Joe the Plumber". Gotta' be pretty damn popular if you've got your own national moniker. :shrug:
 
VanceMack said:
Like I said...I hope people cling to that line of reasoning. Hey all you ladies out there. The left only cares who is being called a slut whore **** and twat and if whoever calls them that contributes to the party. Not THAT they are being called it. Yep...it's going to play well on the big screen.
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The Left? What have you been smoking?
 
MoSurveyor said:
Oct 12 - Asks a question at Obama rally
Oct 15 - referred to by McCain and Obama as "Joe the Plumber" during Presidential Debates
Oct 15 - appeared on CBS Evening News
Oct 16 - holds a press conference at his home
Oct 16 - appeared on Fox News w/Neil Cavuto
Oct 16 - appeared on Good Morning America, talks with Diane Sawyer
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First time for what? Each case is a little different - to me "Joe the Plumber" is straight forward. He had no qualms about cashing in on a nationwide reference to "Joe the Plumber" and he repeatedly sought out the spotlight after that. Did they start slamming him on the 17th? 18th? 24th? Wiki doesn't say. Was it Joe Wurzelbacher or "Joe the Plumber" that was being slammed? I'd bet a LOT of people that know "Joe the Plumber" wouldn't know Joe Wurzelbacher from Adam. You guys didn't use Joe Wurzelbacher's name, you said "Joe the Plumber". Gotta' be pretty damn popular if you've got your own national moniker. :shrug:
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so since fluke only appeared on cnn and msnbc, she doesn't count, So tell me at what point is slaughtering an average civillian with baseless attacks and vulgar expressions, ok with you, based on thier level of popularity?

Where is the line?
 
VanceMack said:
Is he still on the air? What is his net worth? Any plans for him to go off the air? Meanwhile...democrat lawmakers where quick to condemn the LANGUAGE...not the target...calling Limbaughs comments misogynistic. That same congresswoman's response to Mahers use of the same words? Silence...a refusal to even say "I think that language is ALWAYS inappropriate". Nope....silence. Oh yes...its going to play well. And there is a long time for it to play. I suspect you will see that video and commentary more than a few times. Limbaugh is who he is...what he is. His supporters wont stop listening (and neither will his haters...and be honest...that ****s funny right there). But the hypocrisy of the left on this issue? Its wide screen and blu-ray baby...
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Fluke just doesn't understand how she's nothing more than a pawn of the Left.

Just like what's-her-butt--Cindy Sheehan. After Bush left office, no one even knows who she is, anymore.
 
JasonI said:
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for women to hold this against the DEMs...
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Is that why before, or pre-Fluke Obama polls among women was in the 60s, and after, it is at 41%? Nah, it won't hurt at all.....



j-mac
 
apdst said:
Fluke just doesn't understand how she's nothing more than a pawn of the Left.

Just like what's-her-butt--Cindy Sheehan. After Bush left office, no one even knows who she is, anymore.
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the dems dropped her like syphilis.... :lol:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
so since fluke only appeared on cnn and msnbc, she doesn't count, So tell me at what point is slaughtering an average civillian with baseless attacks and vulgar expressions, ok with you, based on thier level of popularity?

Where is the line?
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It's not up to me, that's a court decision.
 
JasonI said:
Is that the Faux News poll? The one I saw this morning was 56% and he's not really even trying that hard yet...
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Actually it was from the NYtimes....

At a time of rising gas prices, heightened talk of war with Iran and setbacks in Afghanistan, Mr. Obama’s approval rating dropped substantially in recent weeks, the poll found, with 41 percent of respondents expressing approval of the job he is doing and 47 percent saying they disapprove — a dangerous position for any incumbent seeking re-election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/u...n-new-york-times-cbs-poll.html?pagewanted=all
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But oh aren't you clever with the whole "Faux News" thing and all....And original too....


j-mac
 
MoSurveyor said:
Except in Texas ... :lol:
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A lot more than just TX, as in many places PP offers only abortive services on site, while referring out the other things they say they offer.


j-mac
 
MoSurveyor said:
The Left? What have you been smoking?
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Nice dodge...go ahead and pretend it isnt true. Go ahead and pretend that video isnt goinbg to be used...a lot...or that Obamas acceptance of that million dollar donation without so much as a general condemnation of the language isnt transparent to reasoned rational and thinking voters. He doesnt have to worry about the muppets...they have already swallowed everything and he can do no wrong. But the hypocrisy? go ahead...pretend people dont see it.
 
VanceMack said:
Nice dodge...go ahead and pretend it isnt true. Go ahead and pretend that video isnt goinbg to be used...a lot...or that Obamas acceptance of that million dollar donation without so much as a general condemnation of the language isnt transparent to reasoned rational and thinking voters. He doesnt have to worry about the muppets...they have already swallowed everything and he can do no wrong. But the hypocrisy? go ahead...pretend people dont see it.
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I'm sorry, either I misunderstood or you did. You seemed to be referring to me as the Left. If that is an incorrect assessment of your post then I withdraw my comment.
 
j-mac said:
Actually it was from the NYtimes....



But oh aren't you clever with the whole "Faux News" thing and all....And original too....


j-mac
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Um, you either posted the wrong poll or lied about the numbers to prove your point...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for the correct one...
 
MoSurveyor said:
I'm sorry, either I misunderstood or you did. You seemed to be referring to me as the Left. If that is an incorrect assessment of your post then I withdraw my comment.
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Either or...no worries.

I personally believe the bigger story will not be that Rush Limbaugh said something stupid...again. The bigger story will be the hypocrisy of those that suddenly found their voice. Left...right...its all out there for everyone to see.
 
JasonI said:
Um, you either posted the wrong poll or lied about the numbers to prove your point...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for the correct one...
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Oh gee, thanks...What a stand up guy....:roll: Don't like the NYT? Here try this one, not quite the same numbers, but they still show the slide among women....Try to read the article this time please....Thanks...


Despite a significant outreach effort to female voters and Democratic accusations of a GOP 'war on women,' a new Bloomberg poll shows Obama losing ground among women from his 2008 vote share.

In a head-to-head matchup with Mitt Romney, women voters back Obama 49 percent to 45 percent — but this is 7 points lower than Obama's 2008 female vote share. Obama captured 56 percent of the female vote in 2008, according to exit polls. And the birth control debate does not seem to have done huge or lasting damage to the Republican party's brand among women. The survey finds that 49 percent of female voters view the Democratic party favorably, while 44 percent view the Republican party favorably.

Poll: Obama down among female voters from 2008 results - POLITICO.com
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j-mac
 
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