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Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

whysoserious said:
I don't think these people know what comedy and laughing is. Somehow they think Kramer's meltdown was comedy so it was ok, but Bill Maher is a not a comedian, and that Rush Limbaugh has a comedy show.

Every thing they say is completely the opposite of reality.
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Where did you get the idea that what Michael Richards said was OK?

He paid a huge price for that. He hasn't worked much because of that after what he said. People just don't want to work with him.

The incident happened on the 21st of November 2006 and since then he did some work on "The Bee Movie" which was a Sienfeld production (a favor), Curb Your Enthusiasm a Larry David Production (another favor) and a voice for an animated movie.

He is not a working actor anymore.
 
Dpetty said:
Rush is not a comedian so no he doesnt have the COMEDIAN card. That is why there is such "moral" outrage over Rush calling someone a slut, yet Bill Maher can call politcal officials truly terrible names with people not so much as batting an eye.
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"Politcal officials" are by their very nature public figures per SCOTUS's Hustler v Falwell decision. Rush has made his fair share of slams against politcal officials with no one doing more than raising an eyebrow.
 
Mason66 said:
Where did you get the idea that what Michael Richards said was OK?

He paid a huge price for that. He hasn't worked much because of that after what he said. People just don't want to work with him.

The incident happened on the 21st of November 2006 and since then he did some work on "The Bee Movie" which was a Sienfeld production (a favor), Curb Your Enthusiasm a Larry David Production (another favor) and a voice for an animated movie.

He is not a working actor anymore.
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And the *reason* that he got skewered is that most people thought he stepped out of his comedy role when he made those offensive comments. He wasn't trying to be funny.
 
MoSurveyor said:
"Politcal officials" are by their very nature public figures per SCOTUS's Hustler v Falwell decision. Rush has made his fair share of slams against politcal officials with no one doing more than raising an eyebrow.
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To put it mildly. The guy probably says at least 20 offensive things about Obama every single show ... and no one is calling his sponsors about that.
 
MoSurveyor said:
"Politcal officials" are by their very nature public figures per SCOTUS's Hustler v Falwell decision. Rush has made his fair share of slams against politcal officials with no one doing more than raising an eyebrow.
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Slaming an official is simply par for the course. Using the "C" word and the "T" word and calling them lesbians, is not even close to the same. Its got nothing to do with being a public figure.
 
AdamT said:
To put it mildly. The guy probably says at least 20 offensive things about Obama every single show ... and no one is calling his sponsors about that.
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Do you have any examples? How offensive could it be if he then turns around and gives the guy a million dollars for his re-election fund.
 
Dpetty said:
Rush is not a comedian so no he doesnt have the COMEDIAN card. That is why there is such "moral" outrage over Rush calling someone a slut, yet Bill Maher can call politcal officials truly terrible names with people not so much as batting an eye.
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By the way, I have sincere doubts about the existence of this so-called COMEDIAN card. If it did exist Michael Richards wouldn't be living out the rest of his days in disgrace . Comedians' first objective is to make people laugh (Jon Stewart stated this quite clearly himself), and often they achieve this through irony and being edgy. But irony and that whole "edgy" thing are a tricky business and it can fail quite spectacularly (though in my opinion Michael Richards wasn't attempting to be ironic in his rant, and was in fact very much showing his true face).

Again, I'm not actually defending Bill Maher as at the best of times he gets a weak smile out of me. But what examples by Bill Maher did you hear about that washes the slate clean for both him and Limbaugh?
 
Josie said:
Why do you care about Limbaugh? He's just a pundit on radio.
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No, that's just his part time job. His full time job is the head of the Republican Party.
 
Grant said:
What has that to do with the fact that Bill Maher gave $1 million to the Democ**ts?

He has always made his politics quite clear and remains the go-to guy for those leftists who like their political humor on the raw side. No shot is too cheap and no person, man woman or child, will escape his wrath once he turns his sights on them. In turn,the Democ**ts have made him a very rich man.
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Wow! Good thing you identfy yourself as an Independent. Otherwise, with posts like this some might conclude you were just another Far Right Extremist. Demo****s, huh?

Clever.
 
Cardinal said:
By the way, I have sincere doubts about the existence of this so-called COMEDIAN card. If it did exist Michael Richards wouldn't be living out the rest of his days in disgrace . Comedians' first objective is to make people laugh (Jon Stewart stated this quite clearly himself), and often they achieve this through irony and being edgy. But irony and that whole "edgy" thing are a tricky business and it can fail quite spectacularly (though in my opinion Michael Richards wasn't attempting to be ironic in his rant, and was in fact very much showing his true face).

Again, I'm not actually defending Bill Maher as at the best of times he gets a weak smile out of me. But what examples by Bill Maher did you hear about that washes the slate clean for both him and Limbaugh?
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Nothing that Bill Maher said or will say will wash the slate clean for Rush, the point is that there is an obvious sense of selective moral outrage in this country when Rush can get hounded for weeks after saying the word slut on his program, but Bill Maher can call people names on a nightly basis and get away with it on the premis that he is a comedian (comedian card). He has called Palin a dumb Tw*t, he called her the C word, he has called her a lesbian, he has called Michelle Bachman a bimbo. He made a joke about Rick Santorum's wife using a vibrator (imagine if he had made a comment like that about michelle Obama during last election). The guy says disdainful things on every show, and he has never EVER been asked to apologize (nor has he given one).

Rush shouldnt have called that girla slut, for obvious resons. However that wordpales in comparison to the words and names that Bill Maher throws at respectable political figures ALL THE TIME!
 
Wiggen said:
Wow! Good thing you identfy yourself as an Independent. Otherwise, with posts like this some might conclude you were just another Far Right Extremist. Demo****s, huh?

Clever.
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Yes, about as clever as Bill Maher.
 
Wiggen said:
Wow! Good thing you identfy yourself as an Independent. Otherwise, with posts like this some might conclude you were just another Far Right Extremist. Demo****s, huh?

Clever.
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Grant pointing out that someone who gives a million dollars, no small amount of money, to a democrate Presidential candidate, is himself a liberal democrate, makes him (grant) a far right extremist?? That makes little to no sense.
 
Dpetty said:
Grant pointing out that someone who gives a million dollars, no small amount of money, to a democrate Presidential candidate, is himself a liberal democrate, makes him (grant) a far right extremist?? That makes little to no sense.
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It seems what really annoys them is suggesting terms that Bill Maher, a strong Democrat supporter, uses against political opponents on a regular basis. They find this turning of the tables almost unbearable, having had almost exclusive use of these words for a generation or so. They find it offensive that anyone not of the left use them. Thus the fall-back position of the ""extreme right wing"' labeling, with "racist" surely to follow.

It just another example of the Leftists being able to dish it out but use their own tactics on them and they start crying the blues.
 
Dpetty said:
Slaming an official is simply par for the course. Using the "C" word and the "T" word and calling them lesbians, is not even close to the same. Its got nothing to do with being a public figure.
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The words used for derision are a matter of entertainment, and that includes Rush. WHO is being derided is the important issue, not how. How is something for their respective broadcaster's and customer's to determine.
 
MoSurveyor said:
The words used for derision are a matter of entertainment, and that includes Rush. WHO is being derided is the important issue, not how. How is something for their respective broadcaster's and customer's to determine.
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Yes, we can all start using the term Democ**ts now as a source of entertainment.
 
Grant said:
Yes, we can all start using the term Democ**ts now as a source of entertainment.
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Simple things amuse shallow minds. If that's how you get your kicks have at it.

Personally, I don't care what you call the D's or the R's since neither applies to me.
 
Grant said:
Yes, we can all start using the term Democ**ts now as a source of entertainment.
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Personally, I think it's pretty funny, lol. Democ**nts and Republid*cks.
 
Dpetty said:
Except Bill Maher is considered a "comedian" so he is allowed to say or call people whatever he wants. Apparently there is a comedian card you can flash whenever you say or do something stupid. I guess Michael Richards lost his.
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So is Rush a comedian. They are entertainers, and they need one another.
 
MoSurveyor said:
The words used for derision are a matter of entertainment, and that includes Rush. WHO is being derided is the important issue, not how. How is something for their respective broadcaster's and customer's to determine.
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That would be all fine and dandy if it were a truly organic event...But, we all know that this attack on Limbaugh sponsors is not....


j-mac
 
MoSurveyor said:
Simple things amuse shallow minds. If that's how you get your kicks have at it.

Personally, I don't care what you call the D's or the R's since neither applies to me.
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Then there is no apparent reason why you are commenting.

However it was also you who said "The words used for derision are a matter of entertainment". So it was your wee mind which found these words entertaining?
 
j-mac said:
That would be all fine and dandy if it were a truly organic event...But, we all know that this attack on Limbaugh sponsors is not....


j-mac
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I feel it is. The sponsors WANT to sell. If they felt Limbaugh represents their corporate policy they would stick with him. But Rush messed up. He alienated those companies. Most will come back after its all calmed down.
 
Grant said:
Then there is no apparent reason why you are commenting.

However it was also you who said "The words used for derision are a matter of entertainment". So it was your wee mind which found these words entertaining?
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I commented because you quoted me in your posts. If you didn't want me to comment on your posts then you shouldn't have quoted mine. Of course, it wouldn't be the first time you wasted a post on the wrong guy now, would it?

I made no statement on the entertainment value of the words used - but obviously someone thought they were entertaining, if no one else then the person who uttered them.

j-mac said:
That would be all fine and dandy if it were a truly organic event...But, we all know that this attack on Limbaugh sponsors is not....
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Sponsors, like all businesses, do what they do for money. I don't know of anything more natural in America than that.
 
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The Giant Noodle said:
I feel it is. The sponsors WANT to sell. If they felt Limbaugh represents their corporate policy they would stick with him. But Rush messed up. He alienated those companies. Most will come back after its all calmed down.
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Really? you think this is all just organic eh....I was driving home last saturday and tuned in to MediaMatters radio, and they were talking to Kelly Rivas of stoprush.org here is a sample of her vitriol against Limbaugh, and a highlight of what is really happening behind these sponsors actions....

Jimmygolo said:
Locally here in the Knoxville area a company called Etailogic that builds websites and estores had just announced they'd be advertising on the channel that carries the Rush show and they have since cancelled that idea and will be advertising elsewhere, because of this.
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Kelly Rivas said:
Keep up the great work!!

Please let me know if you have any contact information for the companies that have pulled their sponsorships. We have some really great sponsorship opportunities for them to take their actions one step further by placing their money where their hearts are.

They have the opportunity to be nationally recognized business-leaders, as they demonstrate American companies DO NOT support a War on Women and in fact - help hold accountable those involved in the mistreatment of women....
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and then another thug chimes in with...

Concerned Seattleite said:
Seattle's AM 770, ironically named "the Truth" is refusing to pull Rush's show (see statement below). Please let them know we will be contacting all of their advertisers....

StopRush.org » About
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This is disgusting...It is the furthest thing from an organic move on the part of advertisers just pulling their ads on their own, and more about thug like activists working behind the scenes to stifle speech they deem to disagree with. Real freedom eh....?

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Really? you think this is all just organic eh....I was driving home last saturday and tuned in to MediaMatters radio, and they were talking to Kelly Rivas of stoprush.org here is a sample of her vitriol against Limbaugh, and a highlight of what is really happening behind these sponsors actions....





and then another thug chimes in with...



This is disgusting...It is the furthest thing from an organic move on the part of advertisers just pulling their ads on their own, and more about thug like activists working behind the scenes to stifle speech they deem to disagree with. Real freedom eh....?

j-mac
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Looks like everybody is making money except Rush but isn't that what capitalism is all about? Some win, others lose? Couldn't be more natural in America, it's just that this time you're on the side losing money. Life's a bitch, isn't it?
 
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MoSurveyor said:
Looks like everybody is making money except Rush but isn't that what capitalism is all about - some win, others lose? Couldn't be more natural in America, it's just that this time you're on the side losing money. Life's a bitch, isn't it?
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Rush Limbaugh isnt making money??

But, in any case, is this the kind of war against free speech America really wants? Who will be next?
 
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