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Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

VanceMack said:
Exactly correct...but the assumption is based on what has happened with virtually every thread started where racism from the 'white' perspective HAS been started. And get over what exactly? Oh noes...my feelings is hurt because they chanted USA? If the people that were upset had a half a brain in their head they would have joined in the chant. Think about how THAT would have worked out. OBVIOUSLY they were and are proud Americans and proud to have escaped FROM that rathole south of the border...so joining in would have made perfect sense AND shut them up.
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Then it works both ways. In the thread that you would have hypothetically created, the whites should "just get over it," too. And what I always see on these threads is this: bigotry towards whites is attacked by conservatives, minimized by liberals; bigotry towards non-whites is attacked by liberals, minimized by conservatives. This does not apply to ALL of either lean, of course, but as a generality, it's what I've seen.

And how the other team responded or didn't respond is irrelevant to what the initial team did.
 
VanceMack said:
Anyone that gets their panties twisted about this kind of stuff needs to grow up and get a little perspective on what is actually going on in the 'real' world. And those 'hispanics' living in America probably should have simply JOINED IN THE CHANT. USA USA!!! Not that ****ing rathole we escaped from...USA USA!!!
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I'm pretty sure they are more than happy to be in the US. I'm pretty sure they have a better gauge of what being an American is than the spoiled brats cheering.....assuming they are in an area dominated by 1st and 2nd generation Americans.
 
VanceMack said:
Anyone that gets their panties twisted about this kind of stuff needs to grow up and get a little perspective on what is actually going on in the 'real' world. And those 'hispanics' living in America probably should have simply JOINED IN THE CHANT. USA USA!!! Not that ****ing rathole we escaped from...USA USA!!!
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Have you ever noticed that your posts usually pre-emptively attack people who've got their "panties in a twist"?
 
andrew said:
Here is one guess- because they're proud to be an American.
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Why chant that at a basketball game that only includes Americans?
 
andrew said:
And if it was a game against Mexico, people would still chant USA.
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If it was a game against Mexico, it would have made sense, because they'd be cheering for their country.

You guys on the right are getting all up in a wad because their actual words were not offensive. You can say one thing and have it mean different things depending on context.

Here's a primer:

Family goes to Disney on Ice, father says to his daughter "Look at the fairies!"
At the Gay Pride parade, someone says "Look at the fairies!"

Do you see the difference?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Then it works both ways. In the thread that you would have hypothetically created, the whites should "just get over it," too. And what I always see on these threads is this: bigotry towards whites is attacked by conservatives, minimized by liberals; bigotry towards non-whites is attacked by liberals, minimized by conservatives. This does not apply to ALL of either lean, of course, but as a generality, it's what I've seen.

And how the other team responded or didn't respond is irrelevant to what the initial team did.
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Minimized...yeah. thats what I opt for. Precisely. When I see things like this I laugh... not at the ignorant people chanting USA but at the ignorant people that get spun up over something like this. I promise you I didnt tell my children to run over and kick little Johnny's ass for calling them a name. We didnt organize neighborhood protests or call their mommies. I had a little chat with my kid over the insignificance of little Johnny and how his actions speak volumes of him and nothing of my child. Of course...it was easier explaining it to a child than to people invested in getting all butt hurt. But lets not retreat from the basic factual reality...We will have threads and multiple postings over insignificant crap like this...as if it matters...but how often will you see people paying attention to the things happening where people are actually getting hurt or maimed. Oh no...he told an insensitive joke. As if this and worse doesnt happen in EVERY community across the country. Minimize it? Hell...you cant MINIMIZE something as insignificant as this.
 
iliveonramen said:
I'm pretty sure they are more than happy to be in the US. I'm pretty sure they have a better gauge of what being an American is than the spoiled brats cheering.....assuming they are in an area dominated by 1st and 2nd generation Americans.
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And I would AGREE with that...which is why it is funny they didnt turn right around and join them.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No, it was completely irrelevant to the issue. Now, do you want to answer my question that you originally quoted, or are you going to continue to present red herrings?
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actually, it was spot on in response you your post:
CaptainCourtesy said:
And if both teams are from the USA, why would ONE feel the need to chant "USA, USA"?
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the opposing side, if they were Americans, would have no reason to be intimidated by such chanting, and as i noted in the post you objected to, they could have responded with their own USA USA chant since they were also from the USA, land of the easily offended
and for the few who were likely not American citizens, then the chant would possibly remind them that they were outsiders looking in with no long term security living in a nation while undocumented. and tell us again why that is our problem, and we should take care not to say or do anything that offends those who live among us illegally
and if they were not American citizens but were documented then they were free to chant 'zimbabwe, zimbabwe' or wherever the hell they were from

which leads me to your question why would ONE feel the need to chant "USA, USA"?
because they are a bunch of high school students overjoyed that they beat the opposing team
why do such teens say anything
would it make you feel better if they said 'san antonio, san antonio' despite that both schools are also from san antonio
this is grousing about a problem that doesn't actually exist

while we ignore the underlying problem of re-segregation
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Have you ever noticed that your posts usually pre-emptively attack people who've got their "panties in a twist"?
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And yet...here we are...
 
I don't know if it is just me, but I am just tired of everything being declared "racist". If I tell someone that I do not like Barack Obama, they will call me a racist.
 
andrew said:
I don't know if it is just me, but I am just tired of everything being declared "racist". If I tell someone that I do not like Barack Obama, they will call me a racist.
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It's just you because nothing you said has any relevance for what is happening in this thread.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
And still nobody seems upset.
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89 posts into a thread about people chanting USA...and counting. We have a long way to go befiore we reach the level in the "Judge is a Racist" thread...but...we'll get there...have a little faith...
 
Mya said:
.. that happens often at sports games, one cheers... it seems normal to me :)
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You cheer for your team. At this game, the USA was not a team.
 
VanceMack said:
Minimized...yeah. thats what I opt for. Precisely. When I see things like this I laugh... not at the ignorant people chanting USA but at the ignorant people that get spun up over something like this. I promise you I didnt tell my children to run over and kick little Johnny's ass for calling them a name. We didnt organize neighborhood protests or call their mommies. I had a little chat with my kid over the insignificance of little Johnny and how his actions speak volumes of him and nothing of my child. Of course...it was easier explaining it to a child than to people invested in getting all butt hurt. But lets not retreat from the basic factual reality...We will have threads and multiple postings over insignificant crap like this...as if it matters...but how often will you see people paying attention to the things happening where people are actually getting hurt or maimed. Oh no...he told an insensitive joke. As if this and worse doesnt happen in EVERY community across the country. Minimize it? Hell...you cant MINIMIZE something as insignificant as this.
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When you start moving the line of what gets addressed, over and over, eventually there IS no line. This is not the crime of the century, but ignoring stuff like these presents that the concept is acceptable.

As far as what we have threads about... we have threads about small stuff and big stuff. Where one chooses to post reflects one's interest, not necessarily the importance of the issue.
 
andrew said:
I don't know if it is just me, but I am just tired of everything being declared "racist". If I tell someone that I do not like Barack Obama, they will call me a racist.
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So, have you gotten around to answering my follow up question, yet?
 
Mya said:
.. that happens often at sports games, one cheers... it seems normal to me :)
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You cheer for your team... not your country if both teams are from your country.
 
VanceMack said:
89 posts into a thread about people chanting USA...and counting. We have a long way to go befiore we reach the level in the "Judge is a Racist" thread...but...we'll get there...have a little faith...
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If you find the thread so annoying, there are others, Vance.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You cheer for your team... not your country if both teams are from your country.
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You mean like when the Jets play the Broncos and everyone in the Meadownlands starts chanting "USA, USA, USA"... oh wait, that never ****ing happened. Ever.
 
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