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McCain calls for US-led airstrikes on Assad forces

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World News - McCain calls for US-led airstrikes on Assad forces


Arizona Sen. John McCain called for American-led airstrikes on President Bashar Assad's forces in Syria, NBC News reports. McCain says the goal of the U.S.-led air strikes should be to establish and defend safe havens for delivering humanitarian and military aid in Syria.


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McCain called for the airstrikes in a Senate floor speech on Monday afternoon.
 
World News - McCain calls for US-led airstrikes on Assad forces


Arizona Sen. John McCain called for American-led airstrikes on President Bashar Assad's forces in Syria, NBC News reports. McCain says the goal of the U.S.-led air strikes should be to establish and defend safe havens for delivering humanitarian and military aid in Syria.


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McCain called for the airstrikes in a Senate floor speech on Monday afternoon.

He's getting more senile by the day if he thinks we are going to intervene in another Shiite-Sunni uprising without a UN mandate. Syria has a Sunni majority and a ruling Shiite minority and it's another Iraq just waiting for us to be sucked in. Not this time...we have somebody with sense in charge. Let the Arab League deal with it, it is their mess.
 
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iguanaman,

I hope you're right. I read the same article and thought, "Wow! This is the same man who condemned President Obama for military involvement in Lybia w/UN authorization and the aid of the Arab League, but now he's so gunho about using military action in Syria w/o a UN resolution and NO support from the Arab League?

Talk about your typical warmongerer! :doh
 
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb <s>Iran</s> Syria

 
iguanaman,

I hope you're right. I read the same article and thought, "Wow! This is the same man who condemned President Obama for military involvement in Lybia w/UN authorization and the aid of the Arab League, but now he's so gunho about using military action in Syria w/o a UN resolution and NO support from the Arab League?

Talk about your typical warmongerer! :doh

Im pretty sure McCains contention with lybia is thaT it just didn'T happen quickly enough but either way you are right. Republicans are only anti war when its not their idea

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Much as I oppose the brual Assad regime, I do not believe the U.S. should intervene militarily. Lip service to democracy notwithstanding, it is far from clear that the Assad regime's opponents are actually seeking liberal democracy. The revolt could well have at least as much to do with a desire to remove an ethnic minority goverment. Also, it is not clear whether a post-Assad Syria would be stable. What happened in Egypt and Libya offer strong arguments for caution. Finally, the lack of compelling U.S. interests at stake, offers the strongest argument against military intervention.
 
Military is what McCain understands. Bomb them. Shoot them. Kill them. Burn them. Considering his upbringing and his involvement with the military most his entire life, it does not surprise me a bit to hear McCain get on his war stump, yet again.

I have much respect for this American hero of ours. But I think he has served our country for enough years out of his life. He should go away now and reap the rewards of his service and try to enjoy what little time he does have left. He is getting up in the years, you know. He has earned a rest.

God Bless John McCain.
 
World News - McCain calls for US-led airstrikes on Assad forces


Arizona Sen. John McCain called for American-led airstrikes on President Bashar Assad's forces in Syria, NBC News reports. McCain says the goal of the U.S.-led air strikes should be to establish and defend safe havens for delivering humanitarian and military aid in Syria.


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McCain called for the airstrikes in a Senate floor speech on Monday afternoon.

So what do you propose should be done about the situation in Syria? Nothing?
 
So what do you propose should be done about the situation in Syria? Nothing?

Syria is the problem of Turkey and Saudi Arabia too. They have more at stake. And Russia is backing Syria. Sometimes you got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. We cannot continue being the world's benevolent dictator. Sad but true.
 
When the Fifth column failed its mission, the real mastermind shows its true face. With special task force and air attack, they took over Libya. Now when French special force were captured, MaCain jumps out. It's still a gunboat style looting war in the name of "democracy".

8:07AM GMT 05 Mar 2012


France’s secret war against the Syrian people

By OzHouse On February 25, 2012 • voltairenet.org

During the assault on the rebel stronghold in the Homs district of Bab Amr, the Syrian army took more than 1,500 prisoners, mostly foreigners. Of these, a dozen French nationals requested the status of prisoner of war, refusing to give their identity, rank and unit of assignment. One of them is a Colonel working for the DGSE transmission service.

In arming the Wahhabi Legion and feeding it with satellite intelligence, France conducted a secret war against the Syrian army, which caused more than 3,000 deaths among the military, and more than 1,500 among civilians in ten months of fighting. ….

France has sought Russia’s assistance to negotiate with Syria the release of its prisoners of war.

France
 
He's getting more senile by the day if he thinks we are going to intervene in another Shiite-Sunni uprising without a UN mandate. Syria has a Sunni majority and a ruling Shiite minority and it's another Iraq just waiting for us to be sucked in. Not this time...we have somebody with sense in charge. Let the Arab League deal with it, it is their mess.

McCain is hardly being senile.

Rather, he's standing up to the need for intervention on behalf of the people of Syria.

And yeah, he's going to get **** on by the rest of the people in the federal government. He's going to be **** on because there's no way we'll go into Syria despite Russia's and China's objection to us doing so.

But it's a good moral stance for him to take, and I agree with him on that.
 
We are not the world's policeman. We don't have the money to do it, it's none of our damned business, and the problem with Syria is that no matter which side of the civil war wins, the West loses. Assad is an anti-Western tool tied to Iran. The rebels are anti-Western tools tied to Al Qaeda.

As we've seen in Egypt and Libya, deposing dictators does not guarantee a democracy. All it guarantees is a temporary void in leadership, when anarchy and chaos reign. It's horrific to see what Assad is willing to do to innocents to protect his power base, but if the USA goes Rambo into Syria on its own I will be one furious US citizen. I'd like my grandkids to grow up and be able to say they actually lived for a few years during a time when America was NOT at war with someone somewhere.
 
We are not the world's policeman. We don't have the money to do it, it's none of our damned business, and the problem with Syria is that no matter which side of the civil war wins, the West loses. Assad is an anti-Western tool tied to Iran. The rebels are anti-Western tools tied to Al Qaeda.

As we've seen in Egypt and Libya, deposing dictators does not guarantee a democracy. All it guarantees is a temporary void in leadership, when anarchy and chaos reign. It's horrific to see what Assad is willing to do to innocents to protect his power base, but if the USA goes Rambo into Syria on its own I will be one furious US citizen. I'd like my grandkids to grow up and be able to say they actually lived for a few years during a time when America was NOT at war with someone somewhere.

I wonder if the US doesn't want the ME to be a in a mess, so Arab countries are in disarray and unlikely to strike back or unite with Iran if they get their nuke sites bombed?
 
Syria is the problem of Turkey and Saudi Arabia too. They have more at stake.

Certainly. But neither are particularly well equipped to do much, without Western support. Saudi Arabia is finally starting to abandon the hand wringing and might start to do something constructive soon, like funneling arms to the opposition. Turkey is just going to continue to accept refugees (which is not insignificant, i admit) and beseech the west to "do something".

Personally, I think Israel has a huge opportunity to play a role that would benefit both countries. I've read some interesting papers that propose now would be the perfect time for Israel to, again, offer to return the Golan Heights to Syria. On some conditions, of course - including only to a non-Assad regime. It would set the groundwork for Syria and Israel to finally sign a long over-due peace treaty and warm their relations considerably. It would also effectively deal a blow to Iran. Unfortunately, I think Israel is too focused on the nuclear situation in Iran right now and internal politics would prevent them from making such a shrewd offer.

And Russia is backing Syria.

Yes but this isn't insurmountable. Russia's support of Assad is purely on the belief that an Assad-led Syria is better for Russia than the alternative (not to mention the fact that russia literally just had an election, something anti-american rhetoric tends to work well for). Russia can be coaxed to think otherwise. Russia is definitely a rational actor; as the opposition drags on and Assad's regime becomes more fractured internally and more isolated externally, the advantages to Russia diminish. At some point, as Assad's days start to become numbered, it makes more sense for Russia to switch allegiances and warm up to the opposition. Keep in mind, Tartus is Russia's key strategic access port to the mediterranean.

Sometimes you got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. We cannot continue being the world's benevolent dictator. Sad but true.

Well, that works nice as a bumper sticker. But it doesn't do much good to the thousands of civilians being butchered in Syria. The fact of the matter is we are still the world's dominant superpower and I feel we have a responsibility to use our power as best we can to help people. Even if you're opposed to an Iraq-style full scale ground invasion (as I am and most Americans are, at this point), you can't sit here like and tell me we should do absolutely nothing. The options aren't so black and white as that.
 
Certainly. But neither are particularly well equipped to do much, without Western support. Saudi Arabia is finally starting to abandon the hand wringing and might start to do something constructive soon, like funneling arms to the opposition. Turkey is just going to continue to accept refugees (which is not insignificant, i admit) and beseech the west to "do something".

Personally, I think Israel has a huge opportunity to play a role that would benefit both countries. I've read some interesting papers that propose now would be the perfect time for Israel to, again, offer to return the Golan Heights to Syria. On some conditions, of course - including only to a non-Assad regime. It would set the groundwork for Syria and Israel to finally sign a long over-due peace treaty and warm their relations considerably. It would also effectively deal a blow to Iran. Unfortunately, I think Israel is too focused on the nuclear situation in Iran right now and internal politics would prevent them from making such a shrewd offer.



Yes but this isn't insurmountable. Russia's support of Assad is purely on the belief that an Assad-led Syria is better for Russia than the alternative (not to mention the fact that russia literally just had an election, something anti-american rhetoric tends to work well for). Russia can be coaxed to think otherwise. Russia is definitely a rational actor; as the opposition drags on and Assad's regime becomes more fractured internally and more isolated externally, the advantages to Russia diminish. At some point, as Assad's days start to become numbered, it makes more sense for Russia to switch allegiances and warm up to the opposition. Keep in mind, Tartus is Russia's key strategic access port to the mediterranean.



Well, that works nice as a bumper sticker. But it doesn't do much good to the thousands of civilians being butchered in Syria. The fact of the matter is we are still the world's dominant superpower and I feel we have a responsibility to use our power as best we can to help people. Even if you're opposed to an Iraq-style full scale ground invasion (as I am and most Americans are, at this point), you can't sit here like and tell me we should do absolutely nothing. The options aren't so black and white as that.

Don't think I am a heartless uncaring person, because I am not. But I just can't get myself worked up enough to have the calvary charge over the hill to save the day for the very people who would love to see America burn to the ground. I think it's time for some other nations around the globe to step up. I got no dog in this fight myself. But I can see how, in time, I might. I hope my dog stays out of the fight though.
 
We just ended a major war in Iraq, we're still in a major war in Afghanistan, and McCain has been clamoring for another major war with Iran for years. And now he wants to bomb Syria too? I really don't think that John McCain understands that American military power is finite, and we simply do not have the military capability to remake the entire world into lovely places full of American allies who treat their citizens with respect.
 
I wonder how many wars we'd be fighting right now if McCain had won. :shock:
 
Yes.
We should not get involved in Civil wars.

This is far from a civil war. It started as a peaceful protest movement and the Assad regime started murdering people in the streets. Its been going on for over a year now and the cowards at the UN refuse to pass a resolution condemning Assad. This man is killing his own population including women and children. He should be brought up on war crimes charges. How is he any different than Slobodon Milosovic? Why was it necessary to intervine in Serbia but not in Syria? When this started Assads was attempting to quash an uprising now he is attempting to clense his country of sunni muslims. The world looks on while a tyrant commits genocide. This is not a civil war.
 
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Is there anyplace on Planet Earth McCain does NOT want to bomb?
 
I wonder if the US doesn't want the ME to be a in a mess, so Arab countries are in disarray and unlikely to strike back or unite with Iran if they get their nuke sites bombed?

Saudi Arabia wants Iran bombed. Iran is a threat to the kingdom.
 
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