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Bolling breaks tie as Senate passes voter ID bill

Dont let me come across sounding like I'm against Voter I.D. laws....I am not. However, such laws must fit all financially disadvantaged voters and ethnic groups. The only way to do that is through a system that requires nothing to be purchased before hand. And no, a free state issued ID does not mean you can obtain it for free, documentation must be presented before hand which can run hundreds of dollars, trust me, i've been there before. I still am not convinced voter fraud exists to the extent which is claimed, this is all politically motivated and everyone knows this.
 
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SypherAL said:
This point is meaningless. Not everyone is registered to vote, what if its a teenagers first election where he or she is eligable to vote? More than likely he or she is not registered to vote unless he or she owns a vehicle. What if I lose my ID on election day? There are several instances that counter-act your statement. Thumb print scanning system are the only viable solution. You dont need to carry anything on you and you dont need to purchase anything before hand.
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Well, anyone that isn't registered to vote, can't vote. It's that simple.
 
SypherAL said:
Dont let me come across sounding like I'm against Voter I.D. laws....I am not. However, such laws must fit all financially disadvantaged voters and ethnic groups. The only way to do that is through a system that requires nothing to be purchased before hand. And no, a free state issued ID does not mean you can obtain it for free, documentation must be presented before hand which can run hundreds of dollars, trust me, i've been there before. I still am not convinced voter fraud exists to the extent which is claimed, this is all politically motivated and everyone knows this.
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Anyone that can't afford an ID, isn't registered to vote. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
 
SypherAL said:
This point is meaningless. Not everyone is registered to vote, what if its a teenagers first election where he or she is eligable to vote? More than likely he or she is not registered to vote unless he or she owns a vehicle. What if I lose my ID on election day? There are several instances that counter-act your statement. Thumb print scanning system are the only viable solution. You dont need to carry anything on you and you dont need to purchase anything before hand.
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If you lose your I.D. you are gave a provisional ballot that is then verified and counted at the end of the day.

I'm betting you would see far more complaints over thumb scanning than any requirement that you have to bring your free voter registration card.
 
AdamT said:
There's no mystery as to why Republicans are pushing it or why Democrats oppose it. These laws have been shown to suppress Democratic voter participation.
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In the old days maybe, not today. it costs them nothing to get the card. Now democratic voter fraud....that is another matter.........
 
SypherAL said:
Dont let me come across sounding like I'm against Voter I.D. laws....I am not. However, such laws must fit all financially disadvantaged voters and ethnic groups. The only way to do that is through a system that requires nothing to be purchased before hand. And no, a free state issued ID does not mean you can obtain it for free, documentation must be presented before hand which can run hundreds of dollars, trust me, i've been there before. I still am not convinced voter fraud exists to the extent which is claimed, this is all politically motivated and everyone knows this.
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Sorry, I can't trust the above statement.
 
apdst said:
Anyone that can't afford an ID, isn't registered to vote. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
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not necessarily, state by state varies. In nebraska (where I live), you dont need a photo ID to register.

"if registering for the first time in Nebraska by mail, please provide a copy of a current and valid photo ID, or a copy of a utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document which is dated within 60 days immediately prior to the date of presentation showing the same name and residence address provided on the voter registration application to avoid delays with your registration."
 
Navy Pride said:
The problem is there is already voter Fraud..............Here in Washington in King County Seattle dead people and felons vote for the democrat candidate..That is why it is very difficult for a Republican to win a Congressional seat.
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Ummm, how many dead people can possibly vote? It would take a live person to do the actual voting. Are you suggesting there's a coordinated effort to fraudulently vote? Why wouldn't Republicans use the same tactics? Too honest? LOL... How about some facts.

If felons are voting, they must be allowed to, which isn't uncommon.


• If you were convicted of a felony in a Washington State court, your right to vote is restored unless you are currently in prison or in community custody with DOC. If you have questions about whether you are in community custody, call DOC at (800) 430-9674.
• If you were convicted of a felony in another state or in federal court, your right to vote is restored as long as you are not currently incarcerated.
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disneydude said:
LOL....Why do Republicans always fight against laws that allow you to register to vote when you apply for a driver's license or ID? Because Republicans do better when less people vote. That just the simple fact.
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Not here in Washington, can you give me and example where its like that or do you pull the idea out your ass?:doh
 
Hikertrash said:
Ummm, how many dead people can possibly vote? It would take a live person to do the actual voting. If felons are voting, they must be allowed to which isn't uncommon.
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Felons are not allowed to vote and when you have a close election dead people can make a difference. Why are you so against a voters ID card?
 
Navy Pride said:
Not here in Washington, can you give me and example where its like that or do you pull the idea out your ass?:doh
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Show me proof voter fraud exists to an extent that demands strict voting ID laws. Not conservative blog news, real satistics and studies. No long term studies have been conducted. This whole Voter Fraud conspiracy has been pulled directly from the GOP crack of shame.
 
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not necessarily, state by state varies. In nebraska (where I live), you dont need a photo ID to register.

"if registering for the first time in Nebraska by mail, please provide a copy of a current and valid photo ID, or a copy of a utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document which is dated within 60 days immediately prior to the date of presentation showing the same name and residence address provided on the voter registration application to avoid delays with your registration."
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Whatcha' wanna bet that anyone who can provide any of that...has a photo ID and can definitely afford to get one?
 
SypherAL said:
What am I stating that is lacking your "trust"?
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And no, a free state issued ID does not mean you can obtain it for free, documentation must be presented before hand which can run hundreds of dollars, trust me, i've been there before.
 
apdst said:
Whatcha' wanna bet that anyone who can provide any of that...has a photo ID and can definitely afford to get one?
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I would bet nothing because you are probably right, however, I just wanted to prove you don't need a photo I.D. in every state to register to vote.
 
1Perry said:
And no, a free state issued ID does not mean you can obtain it for free, documentation must be presented before hand which can run hundreds of dollars, trust me, i've been there before.
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GOP legislation usually will get voter I.D. bills through by claiming free state issued ID would be included with the bill, however, you must provide a birth certificate, have a valid checking account, a recent paycheck stub, the list goes on and on. So it ends up being that not only do you need a photo ID to vote, you also need a checking account with money inside and purchase all the proper identification needed to obtain your "free" state issued ID. Many citizens lack a birth certificate, job, and especially a checking account.
 
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I would bet nothing because you are probably right, however, I just wanted to prove you don't need a photo I.D. in every state to register to vote.
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Technically, you're wrong, because at some point in the process you described, that person had to produce a photo ID.
 
SypherAL said:
GOP legislation usually will get voter I.D. bills through by claiming free state issued ID would be included with the bill, however, you must provide a birth certificate, have a valid checking account, a recent paycheck stub, the list goes on and on. So it ends up being that not only do you need a photo ID to vote, you also need a checking account with money inside and purchase all the proper identification needed to obtain your "free" state issued ID.
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But, you just posted a quote from an unknown source that allows a person to register with a bank statement, check stub, untility bill, etc.
 
SypherAL said:
GOP legislation usually will get voter I.D. bills through by claiming free state issued ID would be included with the bill, however, you must provide a birth certificate, have a valid checking account, a recent paycheck stub, the list goes on and on.
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Link?

So it ends up being that not only do you need a photo ID to vote, you also need a checking account with money inside and purchase all the proper identification needed to obtain your "free" state issued ID.
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This is never the case anywhere.
 
apdst said:
But, you just posted a quote from an unknown source that allows a person to register with a bank statement, check stub, untility bill, etc.
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right.... you are not following me. This argument is directed at states that REQUIRE photo identification to vote, not states that don't require them. I am arguing against requiring a photo ID to vote, not registering to vote in states that do not have such requirements. No where in that quote does it require ID to register to vote.


here is your link to the quote I just posted.... http://www.sos.ne.gov/elec/voter_info.html
 
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SypherAL said:
Show me proof voter fraud exists to an extent that demands strict voting ID laws. Not conservative blog news, real satistics and studies. No long term studies have been conducted. This whole Voter Fraud conspiracy has been pulled directly from the GOP crack of shame.
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You are new here so you haven't followed many threads on the subject............Links have been posted by me and others many times so that is not in question...........If you want to find out go to google and look up dead people or felons vote in elections.............Now next time your going to have to do it on your own. I am not here to teach you how to use your computer mu left wing friend
 
Navy Pride said:
THe most bias left wing site there is...............:lamo
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So an actual video of the process taking place is left wing bias? Your statement has no value. Now I can see video evidence has no affect on your political ideology, you think with feelings instead of facts and proof.
 
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