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Iran stops oil sales to British, French companies

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(Reuters) - Iran has stopped selling crude to British and French companies, the oil ministry said on Sunday, in a retaliatory measure against fresh EU sanctions on the Islamic state's lifeblood, oil.


Iran stops oil sales to British, French companies | Reuters


Aren't sanctions just wonderful? As our Gas prices rise to the $4 mark for this spring/summer, (when this happened to Bush, demo's were in the streets in front of camera's) this can NOT bode well for Obama in an election year.

j-mac
 
Predictable to say the least, oil is Iran's only leverage against military action from outside forces, my guess is they'll try to expand their commerce with Russia and China to fill the market void.
 
Aren't sanctions just wonderful? As our Gas prices rise to the $4 mark for this spring/summer, (when this happened to Bush, demo's were in the streets in front of camera's) this can NOT bode well for Obama in an election year.

j-mac

Iran started selling more oil to China last year.

I guess the good news is that Canadian tar sands production costs are lower... down to about $50 a barrel.

To get at the bitumen, the companies bulldoze wetlands to create vast open-pit mines. Inside them, the world’s largest dumptrucks ferry paydirt to nearby separation plants, where the tarry soil is crushed and diluted until bitumen can be skimmed off. This needs lots of water and energy, and yields the notorious “tailings”, a residue of sand, unclaimed bitumen, water, clay particles and contaminants. Some lakes of this have been festering for decades.

Canada's tar sands: Muck and brass | The Economist

Mining accounts for just over half of production. It will become less common as shallower reserves are exhausted. Extracting the deeper stuff is less ugly but also damaging.
 
Aren't sanctions just wonderful? As our Gas prices rise to the $4 mark for this spring/summer, (when this happened to Bush, demo's were in the streets in front of camera's) this can NOT bode well for Obama in an election year.

j-mac

Would you rather see an attack on Iran, and gas prices shoot up to $8 ?
 
there is one sure way to lower the cost of oil :

work to replace it as a transportation fuel.
 
Predictable to say the least, oil is Iran's only leverage against military action from outside forces, my guess is they'll try to expand their commerce with Russia and China to fill the market void.

Kind of a good reason to start pumping money into technology that will make their oil useless IMO.
 
Kind of a good reason to start pumping money into technology that will make their oil useless IMO.

Or rethink US foreign policy...........

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Or rethink US foreign policy...........

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Kind of a good reason to start pumping money into technology that will make their oil useless IMO.
A mixture of both would be ideal, revising foreign policy stances is the more immediate cure for some of our woes, though eventually we will be forced to find an alternative for the sake of both sustainability and competition (price gauging).
 
The EU set the date to stop imports of oil for July 1st, but many oil companies, such as BP, have already stopped buying from Iran. It's just more sabre-rattling, covering the fact that imports have virtually ceased anyway. If it nudges the price up, that's all good as far as Iran's concerned.
 
The EU set the date to stop imports of oil for July 1st, but many oil companies, such as BP, have already stopped buying from Iran. It's just more sabre-rattling, covering the fact that imports have virtually ceased anyway. If it nudges the price up, that's all good as far as Iran's concerned.


Yep, Iran would love to see higher prices, as well as liberals....Meanwhile those of us who cling to our paychecks weekly to make our livings suffer...Why do you libs hate the middle class and the poor?


j-mac
 
Yep, Iran would love to see higher prices, as well as liberals....Meanwhile those of us who cling to our paychecks weekly to make our livings suffer...Why do you libs hate the middle class and the poor?


j-mac
Are you under the impression that a military strike on Iran would lower gas prices?
 
Are you under the impression that a military strike on Iran would lower gas prices?


Are you under the impression that Iran's nuclear program is peaceful?


j-mac
 
Are you under the impression that Iran's nuclear program is peaceful?


j-mac
No not entirely. Let's try answering my question now.
 
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No not entirely. Let's try answering my question now.


Well, a sane energy policy would absolutely lower oil pricing. The way we do that is devolop our own oil resource, as well as supporting the Israelli's taking out of the Nuke facilities.

We can begin with dropping the nonsense surrounding the Keystone II pipeline.

j-mac
 
Well, a sane energy policy would absolutely lower oil pricing. The way we do that is devolop our own oil resource, as well as supporting the Israelli's taking out of the Nuke facilities.

We can begin with dropping the nonsense surrounding the Keystone II pipeline.

j-mac

Do you understand what happens to domestic production if the PPB goes down?

BTW.. Keystone is strictly an export pipeline.. It won't increase US supply or lower the cost at the pump.
 
Well, a sane energy policy would absolutely lower oil pricing. The way we do that is devolop our own oil resource, as well as supporting the Israelli's taking out of the Nuke facilities.

We can begin with dropping the nonsense surrounding the Keystone II pipeline.

j-mac
Higher production does not necessarily mean lower prices as you can see we produced more barrels of oil in 2010 than in 2004 United States Crude Oil Production by Year (Thousand Barrels per Day) yet gas prices are drastically higher, it's a much more complex issue than simply supply and demand. Israel taking military action against Iran would most likely mean chaos in the Middle East which would certainly drive up gas prices.

The Keystone pipeline would be great for economic activity inside the States but as far as having an affect on gas prices doubtful at best. Most of the oil would be exported to China regardless.
 
Well, a sane energy policy would absolutely lower oil pricing. The way we do that is devolop our own oil resource, as well as supporting the Israelli's taking out of the Nuke facilities.

We can begin with dropping the nonsense surrounding the Keystone II pipeline.

j-mac

If that is what you believe to be a sane energy policy, then there's no rational debate to be had. Why do you hate intellectuals?
 
Do you understand what happens to domestic production if the PPB goes down?

BTW.. Keystone is strictly an export pipeline.. It won't increase US supply or lower the cost at the pump.


Nonsense, we buy oil from a world market at a world market price. Adding to that market would drop the price, and thus our cost, not to mention adding much needed jobs.

The real truth here is that any real viable alternative energy is decades from being able to even compete with oil, and in order to make it cost viable, liberals must advocate higher prices, and block anything that that would cause that, even if that means they need to lie, and keep poor people from getting much needed jobs to do it....

j-mac
 
If that is what you believe to be a sane energy policy, then there's no rational debate to be had. Why do you hate intellectuals?

Most so called 'intellectuals' are more legend in their own mind. I have little use for such self inflated jerks.


j-mac
 
Nonsense, we buy oil from a world market at a world market price. Adding to that market would drop the price, and thus our cost, not to mention adding much needed jobs.

The real truth here is that any real viable alternative energy is decades from being able to even compete with oil, and in order to make it cost viable, liberals must advocate higher prices, and block anything that that would cause that, even if that means they need to lie, and keep poor people from getting much needed jobs to do it....

j-mac

Do you remember 1986 when Papa Bush BEGGED the Saudis to raise the ppb?

Do you know WHY he did that?
 
Do you remember 1986 when Papa Bush BEGGED the Saudis to raise the ppb?

Do you know WHY he did that?

Yes, I do. Because we are so restricted in this country from extracting our own proven oil reserves by liberal cause groups, that we are forced to beg what should be our enemies for their charity.

BTW, Obama bowed to the saudi's...I guess that is ok though.


j-mac
 
Yes, I do. Because we are so restricted in this country from extracting our own proven oil reserves by liberal cause groups, that we are forced to beg what should be our enemies for their charity.

BTW, Obama bowed to the saudi's...I guess that is ok though.


j-mac

Oilmen were going belly up in Texas and Oklahoma because the ppb was too low.. Exploration and drilling was at a standstill.. and domestic producers couldn't even afford good reserve maintenance ....
 
Yes, I do. Because we are so restricted in this country from extracting our own proven oil reserves by liberal cause groups, that we are forced to beg what should be our enemies for their charity.

BTW, Obama bowed to the saudi's...I guess that is ok though.


j-mac

Obama was showing respectly to an elderly leader who has been a friend to the US since 1938.

ABHA CITY Saudi Arabia, a peace message to all the world - YouTube

Emerald Mountain... Abha.
 
Aren't sanctions just wonderful? As our Gas prices rise to the $4 mark for this spring/summer, (when this happened to Bush, demo's were in the streets in front of camera's) this can NOT bode well for Obama in an election year.

j-mac

J-mac. Cut the partisan **** out.

I've been dealing with idiots on this forum since I got back and I have no patience anymore.

1) If Obama did not put sanctions on Iran you'd be all over him for being weak. No one with a functioning brain is going to dispute this.
2) Sanctions are directly causing oil prices to rise, coupled with the change in spring/summer blends that always result in higher prices during spring/summer.
3) The economy is coming back putting additional pressure on world oil prices. You are getting angry at Obama for the economy improving. You simply do not understand oil or economics enough to realize this.
4) Keystone would not affect oil prices in any meaningful way as it's not an increase in aggregate production. It merely moves the oil around to refineries. Crude prices should not move either way with its construction or lack of construction. Refined prices may slightly change but they are far more dependent on crude base price and aggregate demand.
5) Increasing economic wealth in India, Brazil, China and Russia are increasing global demand for oil. Obama is hardly responsible for any of that. So unless you want him to declare war on those 4 countries and bomb them back into the stone ago so they stop using oil, please cease and desist with your partisan hackery.
6) If Obama ordered a strike on Iran, oil would be at $8 a gallon.
7) Iran selling more to China will actually reduce income to Iran as China is squeezing Iran because it can.
8) Iran does not want higher oil prices for the same reason OPEC is adamant about preventing oil from rising materially above $100. Higher prices may substitutes competitive and OPEC digs its own grave.
9) The US would need to tap every single oil/gas resource we have to reduce oil prices assuming that world aggregate daily demand does not change which is a unrealistic assumption considering the growth in the Middle Class across the planet. And as the US increases supply, OPEC will reduce supply to keep oil at a high rate. You have this asinine notion that the rest of the producing world won't change its behavior because we're bringing materially more amounts to the supply when their livelihoods depend on high oil prices. OPEC will reduce supply provided to bring down global production to ensure a high price. They will match our increases with their decreases. Russia will follow suit.
10) Oil has had a hundred years and billions in subsidizes and tax credits per year which artificially reduces its actual cost.
 
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