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Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

Thunder said:
hey j-mac, got any evidence of any procedures mandated by Obamacare, that are totally elective, are not motivated to care for the health of the mother, and are ideologically based?

I thought not. Moving on.
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OMG! The crap with contraceptives and the Church are but one example.


j-mac
 
Gina said:
But it's medically unnecessary. To force a woman to undergo it because of another person's belief, is wrong and it's an invasion of her privacy. Every woman who undergoes an abortion, knows what they doing and is under enough emotional duress as it is.
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I would argue that it's emotionally necessary.
 
Thunder said:
oh, I DO have substance, as a judge in TX has ruled that this law, violates the Constitution.

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Proof? And what are the basis of his arguments and is it headed to an appeals court? The government regulates healthcare and can mandate things.
 
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Josie said:
Thank you for your answer. Do you mind saying why you did it?
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I did before, when I first came here. I prefer not to respond about it again. Sorry Josie. And it doesn't matter anyway the whys and wherefores. I've seen enough said here that there is no good enough reason and those who do it are murderesses, lowlifes, poor and therefore ignorant, blah blah blah.

Let's just say I had it done and don't regret it. If that makes me a monster....ok. Monster I am.
 
Thunder said:
wow, I guess you haven't been following the news.

hold on, I'll get the article.

Texas Abortion Law Provisions Struck Out by Judge, Christian News

hmm..looks like the judge didn't throw out the whole thing. but this will change.
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It did change, and the law stands. Your article is from August of last year. Here is what the current news says.

Texas Ultrasound Law a Victory for Women, Babies, Pro-Lifers | LifeNews.com

On Friday February 10, the federal Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans unanimously denied a request by opponents of the Texas Sonogram Law to reconsider the decision of a three-judge panel on that court several weeks ago to completely uphold the law’s constitutionality.

Meanwhile the lower court in Austin, which had initially enjoined enforcement of key provisions, entirely dismissed the lawsuit brought last summer by the New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights.
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Wow, I guess you haven't been following the news ;)
 
Enola said:
Emotionally necessary for whom??
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The mother....I doubt that the baby would be emotionally happy with having their brain scrambled and then sucked out with the Kirby.

j-mac
 
Honestly, I simply cannot understand how ANY American, could support the government FORCING women to undergo an unwanted, totally elective medical procedure, when its clear its been demanded for ideological reasons..and not concerns for the health of the woman. Under penalty of prison, no less.

Now I see how forced sterilization was allowed for soo long in this nation.
 
j-mac said:
The mother....I doubt that the baby would be emotionally happy with having their brain scrambled and then sucked out with the Kirby.

j-mac
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And the mother? What if she didn't ask to be?
 
Thunder said:
"LifeNews.com"??????

try a less ideologically biased site next time.
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The information is sound. I know it's biased but they reported the facts. Face it. The law stood and now the only one who can change it would be the SCOTUS. You were wrong
 
digsbe said:
The information is sound. I know it's biased but they reported the facts. Face it. The law stood and now the only one who can change it would be the SCOTUS. You were wrong
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yes, I was incorrect.

but I'll eventually be vindicated when the Supreme Court rules on this POS law.
 
Thunder said:
yes, I was incorrect.

but I'll eventually be vindicated when the Supreme Court rules on this POS law.
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We can't say that until they take up the case and have a ruling.
 
digsbe said:
We can't say that until they take up the case and have a ruling.
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and in the meantime, this issue will FIRE up Liberals and all others who support womens'-rights, in this country.

so in some ways, this is a gift to us :)
 
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Honestly, I simply cannot understand how ANY American, could support the government FORCING the taxpayer to pay for a totally elective medical procedure, when its clear its been demanded for ideological reasons..and not concerns for the health of the woman......


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Honestly, I simply cannot understand how ANY American, could support the government FORCING the taxpayer to pay for a totally elective medical procedure, when its clear its been demanded for ideological reasons..and not concerns for the health of the woman......
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name one. this is the second time you have made this vague claim.
 
Josie said:
I would argue that it's emotionally necessary.
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For who?

It cannot be for the mother. I've had this kind of ultra sound and I would not want to be forced into it to satisfy anyone else's beliefs.
 
Gina said:
For who?

It cannot be for the mother. I've had this kind of ultra sound and I would not want to be forced into it to satisfy anyone else's beliefs.
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clearly, the Texas Legislature doesn't care what you or any other woman would want.
 
Gina said:
For who?

It cannot be for the mother. I've had this kind of ultra sound and I would not want to be forced into it to satisfy anyone else's beliefs.
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The host has no rights, Gina.
 
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