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Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

Texas, is clearly a stupid place.

But at least they ain't forcing women to undergo unwanted vaginal invasion, like in VA.

Please cite the law you are mischaracterizing here....Thanks.


j-mac
 


HAHAHA! The guttmacher so called study...What a joke...Isn't that the same study that liberal destructo-bots like Pelosi are quoting as proving that some 98% of Catholic women have used contraceptives?

Yes, let's see, they excluded any Catholics that were not using contraceptives, and Catholics in any other catagory that wouldn't use contraceptives, then basically said of the Catholic women that use contraceptives, 98% of them use contraceptives....What a joke.


j-mac
 
Depends how far along they are. This idea that women are just a bunch of ignorant idiots that have no idea what they're actually doing when they decide to terminate a pregnancy is really getting tiresome.


It is hard to tell if they don't know what they are doing when they have the act that creates the pregnancy in the first place....


j-mac
 
This law isn't going to change much. The doctor can always do the sonogram and tell the woman "This is what a parasite looks like - Would you like to be dewormed now?". :mrgreen:



Some "worms" make it to supposed adulthood....;)


j-mac
 
Alright, I'm sick of this crap.

First off, a fetus is attached to it's mother. It's something called a ****ing umbilical cord. Until very late into the prgnancy can a fetus survive on it's own.

Until then, it is entirely dependant on the mother. It is a part of her. It is a piece of her body. She has every right in the world to do what she wants with her body. You, nor anyone else in the world has any right what so ever, to command her. This is blatant stupid attempts at convincing her to make an already difficult desicion. This is borderline mental harrassment.

You are a ****ing idiot and are the epitome of ignorance and superstition that should have died in the dark ages.

Good day to you, sir.

If a ZEF were a mere piece of the woman's body like an apendix, you wouldn't be so passionet about this. Your reaction betrays the fact that you know there's a moral quandry about terminating your child.
 
If a ZEF were a mere piece of the woman's body like an apendix, you wouldn't be so passionet about this. Your reaction betrays the fact that you know there's a moral quandry about terminating your child.


Absolutely right...One progressive in here is already referring to it as a child....If this is the case how can some be so callous as to still kill it and throw it in the trash.

j-mac
 
If all you have is emotive ad hom, throw it anyway.... some of it might stick.
 
Absolutely right...One progressive in here is already referring to it as a child....If this is the case how can some be so callous as to still kill it and throw it in the trash.

j-mac

child=product of procreation.

that's all it means.
 
start a new thread, if you want to talk about that.

Thunder


No, I asked a simple question, we don't have to harp on it, but that you don't want to simply answer it, is indicitive of how dishonest the liberal/progressive position is.

j-mac
 
HAHAHA! The guttmacher so called study...What a joke...Isn't that the same study that liberal destructo-bots like Pelosi are quoting as proving that some 98% of Catholic women have used contraceptives?

Yes, let's see, they excluded any Catholics that were not using contraceptives, and Catholics in any other catagory that wouldn't use contraceptives, then basically said of the Catholic women that use contraceptives, 98% of them use contraceptives....What a joke.


j-mac

The Guttmacher Institute has been collecting the most comprehensive data on abortion in the US for decades. If you don't trust their numbers, why don't you provide an unbiased source that contradicts their findings instead of guffawing like an ass? :) I promise I'll look at it with an unbiased eye. Unlike many here, I actually don't have an agenda on the issue.
 
It is hard to tell if they don't know what they are doing when they have the act that creates the pregnancy in the first place....


j-mac

I don't even know what this post is supposed to mean. We know what we're doing and the possible consequences of it. I'm really sick and tired of people implying that women are stupid creatures. Many may make poor decisions, I will never argue that point, but they certainly don't make those poor decisions due to lack of knowledge on the birds and the bees. :roll:
 
um, save your hatred of women for another thread.
Being a man of integrity, I trust you were about to tell Arcana XV to keep her hatred of men for another thread. I'll stand out of your way while you do that.
 
The Guttmacher Institute has been collecting the most comprehensive data on abortion in the US for decades. If you don't trust their numbers, why don't you provide an unbiased source that contradicts their findings instead of guffawing like an ass? :) I promise I'll look at it with an unbiased eye. Unlike many here, I actually don't have an agenda on the issue.

Sourcing of abortion stats is very challenging because data collection isn't compelled. This means that some states report info, some report more, and some don't report. I'd say that Guttmacher is a reliable source and also that it's extremely difficult to locate information that is not from a source with a lean. Guttmacher's is Planned Parenthood, but I would say too that although much information comes from pro-life sources, this doesn't necessarily delegitimize the information any more that Guttmacher's being the research arm of PP invalidates its.

As for the Texas law itself, IF it's true that abortion clinics reassure clients that what they're aborting is just an unimportant bit of tissue, providing those clients with sonograms so that they can see and hear for themselves exactly what they're aborting is a counterbalance.
 
Being a man of integrity, I trust you were about to tell Arcana XV to keep her hatred of men for another thread. I'll stand out of your way while you do that.

I love men. I really have no idea what you're talking about. Other than making it clear that you have a very dismal understanding of the concept of sarcasm, I can't really figure out the point of this comment. :shrug:
 
Sourcing of abortion stats is very challenging because data collection isn't compelled. This means that some states report info, some report more, and some don't report. I'd say that Guttmacher is a reliable source and also that it's extremely difficult to locate information that is not from a source with a lean. Guttmacher's is Planned Parenthood, but I would say too that although much information comes from pro-life sources, this doesn't necessarily delegitimize the information any more that Guttmacher's being the research arm of PP invalidates its.

Like I said, I'm open to all sources with minimal to no bias. I'm one of the people who want to reduce the number of abortions as much as possible, so precise data on when, how and why women have abortions is very interesting to me. I haven't come across very many sources that are as comprehensive as Guttmacher's, so if anyone's got any, I want to see them.

As for the Texas law itself, IF it's true that abortion clinics reassure clients that what they're aborting is just an unimportant bit of tissue, providing those clients with sonograms so that they can see and hear for themselves exactly what they're aborting is a counterbalance.

The law will not change anything. This is not the right way to go about reducing the number of abortions. It's time, energy and resources wasted and as someone who actually cares about doing something to make abortion a rarity, I find that infuriating.
 
Well, if you want stats on late-term abortion, you would have to study state stats such as those of Kansas.
 
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