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PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

Israel's defence minister, Ehud Barak, has warned that Iran cannot be allowed to establish a "zone of immunity" at Fordow where it is able to work on a nuclear weapon deep underground protected from Israel's conventional weapons. Earlier this month, Barak said Israel must consider an attack before that happens.
excuse me, but where does israel obtain any standing to take any kind of non-diplomatic action
israel is a nuclear weapons builder
israel - unlike iran - is not a signed nation to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty
and our secretary of defense has only recently acknowledged there is no indication that iran is building a nuclear weapon


this smacks of the propaganda that was used to commence the unnecessary and unjustified iraq war
 
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this smacks of the propaganda that was used to commence the unnecessary and unjustified iraq war



Iran and Iraq = apples and oranges
 
Iran and Iraq = apples and oranges

iraq not an actual threat to the USA
iran not an actual threat to the USA
lies about iraq military capacity to justify unnecessary war
lies about iran military capacity to justify unnecessary war

looks like a direct parallel to me
 
someday we'll figure out that replacing oil is important enough to make it a top-level national priority.

i hope we figure it out before the next war.
 
Don't you understand we need to fight for Israel?

They are our only ally in the region.

We have given them tens if not hundreds of billions in aid already. They can fight a war with a third world country with out us. They did it before and can do it again. Don't see why that is our problem.
 
"The White House wants to see sanctions work. This is not the Bush White House. It does not need another conflict," said an official knowledgeable on Middle East policy. "Its problem is that the guys in Tehran are behaving like sanctions don't matter, like their economy isn't collapsing, like Israel isn't going to do anything.

"Sanctions are all we've got to throw at the problem. If they fail then it's hard to see how we don't move to the 'in extremis' option."

The White House has said repeatedly that all options are on the table, including the use of force to stop Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, but that for now the emphasis is firmly on diplomacy and sanctions.


(There is far more at stake here that Israel's paranoia.)
 
Don't you understand we need to fight for Israel?

They are our only ally in the region.

They're our only ally in the region because we refuse to respect the Islamic culture of the other Middle Eastern nations.
 
They're our only ally in the region because we refuse to respect the Islamic culture of the other Middle Eastern nations.
What is it about those cultures that we should respect?
 
Don't you understand we need to fight for Israel?

They are our only ally in the region.

And we need an ally in the region because - we're in the region. If we'd get the **** out then we wouldn't need allies in the region, would we? If we'd get serious about oil usage and a replacements for oil we wouldn't have to continue killing people all over the globe just so that we can drive motor homes and cigarette boats.
 
Iran sanctions are not working... military action likely .....September-October....

Friday 17 February 2012
US officials believe Iran sanctions will fail, making military action likely | World news | The Guardian

This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?
 
What is it about those cultures that we should respect?

ah...you know, things like sovereignty, religion, governance, human life, natural resources...things like that. Or let me put it to you this way, we should not do anything to another nation that we would not ourselves tolerate. Simple as that.
 
This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?

Bingo! And guess what. Pakistan is so thrilled with the way the U.S. has prosecuted its war on the Middle East that as of yesterday it declare that it would ally with Iran if Iran is attacked by the US, Israel and/or the UK. Now it gets really interesting.

Besides the Iranians don't even have to start it. Don't rule out a false flag where a US vessel is attacked by "Iranians". Soon after that the fit will hit the shan.
 
This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?

Well said.
 
iraq not an actual threat to the USA
iran not an actual threat to the USA
lies about iraq military capacity to justify unnecessary war
lies about iran military capacity to justify unnecessary war

looks like a direct parallel to me

Libya wasn't a threat to the USA.

Iran is not a threat to the USA? Iranians have been killing members of the US military for years.

For the non-believers...

U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq - CNN

Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - Jeffrey Goldberg - International - The Atlantic


"We're not talking about a smoking pistol. There is no doubt this is Iranian," Jeffrey said in an interview.
"We're seeing more lethal weapons, more accurate weapons, more longer-range weapons," Jeffrey added. "And we're seeing more sophisticated mobile and other deployment options, and we're seeing better-trained people."

What does this mean? It means that Iran is waging war against the United States of America. Or, to put it another way, it means that Iran doesn't seem particularly interested in entering into a dialogue with the Obama Administration at the moment. Unless, of course, this is just a cry for help.
 
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And what exactly was/is the U.S. doing in Iraq to begin with? Beyond that, the U.S. cannot ever point a finger at any nation and accuse them of supplying weapons to another nation! We wrote the book on doing that, chapter, line and verse.
 
This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?

The mind set of "Who cares if Iran has nuclear weapons" is alarming.

If you lived in Israel you probably wouldn't be so trusting of a country that has called for your total destruction.
 
The US military also claimed Saddam was trucking his WMDs back and forth between Sudan and Syria.

Iraq was crippld by two decades of sanctions but thwar dragged on for nearly a decade.. Of course it was "Iran's" fault.

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