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Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

Well, it's interesting you bring that up, Navy. I fully support gay marriage. However, I don't feel any church should be forced to recognize or perform a gay marriage if they are against it. Religion shouldn't be forced into politics and politics shouldn't be forced into religion. So, I'm not going to try to convince any priest to recognize gay marriage.

Well you see that is one of the major problems because if gays get to marry in a civil ceremony the next thing they will be fighting for is to be married in a church. Remember my left wing friend its a step by step process to get gays accepted as a suitable alternative life style...........You give and inch they want a mile.
 
Well you see that is one of the major problems because if gays get to marry in a civil ceremony the next thing they will be fighting for is to be married in a church. Remember my left wing friend its a step by step process to get gays accepted as a suitable alternative life style...........You give and inch they want a mile.

We can already get married in a church :lol:
 
Well you see that is one of the major problems because if gays get to marry in a civil ceremony the next thing they will be fighting for is to be married in a church. Remember my left wing friend its a step by step process to get gays accepted as a suitable alternative life style...........You give and inch they want a mile.


And the next thing ya know mice and cats will be gettin' married to each other!
 
Well you see that is one of the major problems because if gays get to marry in a civil ceremony the next thing they will be fighting for is to be married in a church. Remember my left wing friend its a step by step process to get gays accepted as a suitable alternative life style...........You give and inch they want a mile.

I'm sure that there will be some who will claim discrimination against churches that they aren't allowed to wed at. However, I don't think it will be significant enough to amount to anything. Besides, it's not as if the government can step in and force religions to allow gays to marry at their churches.
 
We can already get married in a church :lol:

Not in most you can't and for sure not in mine. We welcome you to our church but you understand when gays engage in illicit sex its a mortal sin just like it is for straight people who do it. We are taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. I personally don't judge anyone though. God will do that on the day of judgment and I don't believe that day is far away.
 
I'm sure that there will be some who will claim discrimination against churches that they aren't allowed to wed at. However, I don't think it will be significant enough to amount to anything. Besides, it's not as if the government can step in and force religions to allow gays to marry at their churches.

I think most gay people want equal rights and are willing to call it a civil union but there are a few loud militant gayd and a bunch of "Feel good" liberals that are pushing the issue.
 
Not in most you can't and for sure not in mine. We welcome you to our church but you understand when gays engage in illicit sex its a mortal sin just like it is for straight people who do it. We are taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. I personally don't judge anyone though. God will do that on the day of judgment and I don't believe that day is far away.

The sad thing about religion is it puts the mere words in a book above the thoughts, feeling, and being of a real person...
 
Not in most you can't and for sure not in mine. We welcome you to our church but you understand when gays engage in illicit sex its a mortal sin just like it is for straight people who do it. We are taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. I personally don't judge anyone though. God will do that on the day of judgment and I don't believe that day is far away.

In more churches than you think. I will have a religious marriage, and there's nothing you can do to stop that.
 
I think most gay people want equal rights and are willing to call it a civil union but there are a few loud militant gayd and a bunch of "Feel good" liberals that are pushing the issue.

We do want equal rights, and that includes marriage, plan and simple.
 
I saw "For the Bible Told Me So," a documentary about extremely homophobic parents who disown their children when they come out of the closet. It's pretty messed up. I simply can't imagine disowning a family member for something like that.

Great documentary but from what I remember most of the parents were ok with it except for the mom whos daughter committed suicide and then afterward she realized how wrong she was and became an advocate for gay rights.
 
Marriage is not a right. Why do you think you have to have a license?

I have a gun licensee and im pretty sure ownership of firearms is a right. Also the supreme court disagrees with you. In Loving V Virginia they stated that marriage is a basic human right.
 
The sad thing about religion is it puts the mere words in a book above the thoughts, feeling, and being of a real person...

The only church book I care about is the Holy Bible.
 
I have a gun licensee and im pretty sure ownership of firearms is a right. Also the supreme court disagrees with you. In Loving V Virginia they stated that marriage is a basic human right.

I don't believe they were talking about gay marriage......that is a real stretch
 
I think most gay people want equal rights and are willing to call it a civil union but there are a few loud militant gayd and a bunch of "Feel good" liberals that are pushing the issue.

It wouldnt be equal if it was called a civil union. Its the whole separate isnt equal thing.
 
The sad thing about religion is it puts the mere words in a book above the thoughts, feeling, and being of a real person...

The only church book I care about is the Holy Bible.

So you are agreeing with what i said? I'm going to reiterate..do you hold the ink on that book with higher regard than that of a human being?
 
It wouldnt be equal if it was called a civil union. Its the whole separate isnt equal thing.

The gays I know would love it. they don't care waht you call it they just want the rights and I totally agree with them.
 
I don't believe they were talking about gay marriage......that is a real stretch

Your right they werent. However they did say that marriage is a basic human civil right and the struggle to get interracial marriage legalized parallels the struggle to get same sex marriage legalized almost exactly. In fact the same arguments that were used against/for interracial marriage are used against/for SSM.
 
So you are agreeing with what i said? I'm going to reiterate..do you hold the ink on that book with higher regard than that of a human being?

Its foolish to compare them..........I believe that all life is sacred.............Its to bad you lefties don't feel the same about murder in the womb.
 
Because AIDS in this country started in the gay community.

Actually as mentioned several times in this thread it is now believed that AIDS came to this country from a straight individual.
 
Your right they werent. However they did say that marriage is a basic human civil right and the struggle to get interracial marriage legalized parallels the struggle to get same sex marriage legalized almost exactly. In fact the same arguments that were used against/for interracial marriage are used against/for SSM.

I get so tired of saying this.............interracial marriage is between a man and a woman.......... Gay marriage is between a class of people identified by their sexual orientation
 
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