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Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

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A spokesman for Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood which now dominates parliament called on Thursday for the caretaker cabinet to be sacked and replaced with a Brotherhood one after deadly football riots.The Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, which won almost half of parliament's seats in elections over November and December, had said it would work with the military-appointed cabinet for a transitional period.But the Brotherhood's spokesman Mahmud Ghozlan said the February 1 riot at a football stadium in the Mediterranean town of Port Said, which left more than 70 dead, showed that the government had failed to manage the country.Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern - Yahoo! News
Gheeze, we didn't see this one coming right?....Oh wait, we did too...In fact it is exactly what we said would happen. What a mess. Funny how the Islamist group MB sounds just like liberal progressives here in America doesn't it?Using a crisis to grab power, changing their name to soften the appeal to the masses, etc....j-mac
 
Why the hysteria? Nobody has seized anything. They called for change, but nothing has, yet. The army still controls Egypt, like they did when Musharraf was their front man. At best the army let the riot happen, at worst they triggered it. As for changing their party name, that's what it's called, everyone in Egypt knows who they are and what they stand for, and a largely Muslim population voted for a Muslim party. Why is anyone shocked or surprised? The MB has much more in common with the Repubs these days. Conservative religionists? Doesn't sound liberal to me.
 
The Muslim Brotherhood wants to govern Egypt? :shock: *gasp!* Who didn't see that coming?

Seriously, who didn't? :shrug: Nothing I want to see happen, but Egypt isn't my country. It was obvious that despite the privious government's western alliances, it was abusing their people until the people literally revoted. They got what they wanted... kinda. They pushed Mubarak out, and thought they'd won. I hoped for the best for them, I really did. But power is a seductive succubus. When it is begging to be taken and you don't even have to buy it dinner first, someone is going to bend it over and make it their bitch.

I'm sad for the Egyptians, because it's not my country and as they are now learning, it's not really their country either.
 
Gheeze, we didn't see this one coming right?....Oh wait, we did too...In fact it is exactly what we said would happen. What a mess. Funny how the Islamist group MB sounds just like liberal progressives here in America doesn't it?Using a crisis to grab power, changing their name to soften the appeal to the masses, etc....j-mac

Religious group trying to seize power to enforce their religious ideology on everyone in the country. Yep, sure sounds like those darned liberals.
 
No religous group should control a country.
 
Deja vu "all over again". This seems to be the natural order of things over in Egypt. To be replaced by religious based law that violates human rights....:doh


"If the military council refuses to let Parliament name a new cabinet, Brotherhood leaders said, they may seek a no-confidence vote on the whole government, or take to the streets."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/w...ds-military-cede-power.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2
 
You wanted a caliphate? You got it.

Next up....Syria, the entire northern African coastline, and eventually, Turkey.

And then....it's on.
 
Why the hysteria? Nobody has seized anything. They called for change, but nothing has, yet. The army still controls Egypt, like they did when Musharraf was their front man. At best the army let the riot happen, at worst they triggered it. As for changing their party name, that's what it's called, everyone in Egypt knows who they are and what they stand for, and a largely Muslim population voted for a Muslim party. Why is anyone shocked or surprised?

The MB has much more in common with the Repubs these days. Conservative religionists? Doesn't sound liberal to me.

I'm in your corner on this.. the MB has evolved and matured alot in the past 50 years.
 
You wanted a caliphate? You got it.

Next up....Syria, the entire northern African coastline, and eventually, Turkey.

And then....it's on.

There won't be another Caliphate...... The last guy who proclaimed himself Caliph was in the 1920s and he was chased out of town within a couple of weeks.
 
There won't be another Caliphate...... The last guy who proclaimed himself Caliph was in the 1920s and he was chased out of town within a couple of weeks.

Well, soon, the Brotherhood will control the entire southern coastline of the Mediteranean Sea, and is working on the easterncoastline, too.

Israel will be completely surrounded, soon enough, with Brotherhood-run countries. This will be the bloodiest war ever.
 
Well, soon, the Brotherhood will control the entire southern coastline of the Mediteranean Sea, and is working on the easterncoastline, too.

Israel will be completely surrounded, soon enough, with Brotherhood-run countries. This will be the bloodiest war ever.

I doubt it.. Israel just isn't that important.
 
Gheeze, we didn't see this one coming right?....Oh wait, we did too...In fact it is exactly what we said would happen. What a mess. Funny how the Islamist group MB sounds just like liberal progressives here in America doesn't it?Using a crisis to grab power, changing their name to soften the appeal to the masses, etc....j-mac

What the hell are you talking about this time j-mac? SERIOUSLY What the hell?

This garbled mess just comes across as a juvenile, hysterical, nonsensical and paranoid verbal Diarrhea episode.
 
Slaughtered by who exactly?

Seriously? You don't think much of that region is counting the days until they have the technology and might to finish make a Hitler-esque rampage through Israel? Especially if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over all of these fallen nations?
 
Seriously? You don't think much of that region is counting the days until they have the technology and might to finish make a Hitler-esque rampage through Israel? Especially if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over all of these fallen nations?

Erod...

Israel has been surrounded since it's inception, so that's not much of a point you made earlier.

Egypt is poor as ****, they're econony has taken a dive, the military is not even 25% as powerful as the Israeli military.

Fear mongering crap.
 
Seriously? You don't think much of that region is counting the days until they have the technology and might to finish make a Hitler-esque rampage through Israel? Especially if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over all of these fallen nations?

Do you really believe that rhetoric?

Is that what the Israelis are saying?
 
Erod...

Israel has been surrounded since it's inception, so that's not much of a point you made earlier.

Egypt is poor as ****, they're econony has taken a dive, the military is not even 25% as powerful as the Israeli military.

Fear mongering crap.

I didn't say Egypt is going to attack Israel today. But if an entity like the Muslim Brotherhood can gain CONTROL of all the land surrounding Israel - who's to say Jordan might not fall eventually to as this is all the rage - then nations like Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Turkey, and whoever else, could pool together and have instant access to Israel's border, and collectively, they are a threat.

Especially if you project to a decade from now.
 
Why the hysteria? [...]
Because someone said "Muslim"
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I didn't say Egypt is going to attack Israel today. But if an entity like the Muslim Brotherhood can gain CONTROL of all the land surrounding Israel - who's to say Jordan might not fall eventually to as this is all the rage - then nations like Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Turkey, and whoever else, could pool together and have instant access to Israel's border, and collectively, they are a threat.

Especially if you project to a decade from now.

Yes, Yes, Yes.

Of course Erod.

Have fun in your bizarro universe, where a member of NATO (Turkey) would attack Israel.

You've gone off the deep end.
 
I am half Egyptian and I visited Cairo a few weeks ago. I had the opportunity to have a great insight in the way the people there think, and especially what's going on there... My dad voted for the Liberty Party, and so did many people in his neighbourhood. The truth is, the Muslim Brotherhood has most support in the countryside, where the people aren't as educated, and think of elections as an opportunity to get payed to vote for a certain party. The second Mubarak left, the MB went to these "poor" farmers and started advertising their party as being the right way forward for Egypt. As the MB is the only party that has been around for hundreds of years and has a lot of charity work, the people are already accustomed to them. This results in people voting for what they know... You can't expect people to vote for something that's only been around for a few months. As i was driving through Cairo's chaotic traffic, i saw a modern-looking shop with a great lot of people inside. I asked the driver what it was, and he said it was a new shop the MB had established that sells items extra-cheap, bought of local Egyptian producers. This is the reason why the MB is so successful, it responds to the basic needs of the people which is cheap clothing items etc. In my opinion, it will take approximately 8 years until the entire country is educated on democracy, and true democratic votes can be held.
The Liberty Party my dad voted for, obtained approximately 8.9%. This in my opinion, is good, as now nothing can be kept secrete from the public or at least nothing that happens in parliament.
 
I am half Egyptian and I visited Cairo a few weeks ago. I had the opportunity to have a great insight in the way the people there think, and especially what's going on there... My dad voted for the Liberty Party, and so did many people in his neighbourhood. The truth is, the Muslim Brotherhood has most support in the countryside, where the people aren't as educated, and think of elections as an opportunity to get payed to vote for a certain party. The second Mubarak left, the MB went to these "poor" farmers and started advertising their party as being the right way forward for Egypt. As the MB is the only party that has been around for hundreds of years and has a lot of charity work, the people are already accustomed to them. This results in people voting for what they know... You can't expect people to vote for something that's only been around for a few months.

As i was driving through Cairo's chaotic traffic, i saw a modern-looking shop with a great lot of people inside. I asked the driver what it was, and he said it was a new shop the MB had established that sells items extra-cheap, bought of local Egyptian producers. This is the reason why the MB is so successful, it responds to the basic needs of the people which is cheap clothing items etc. In my opinion, it will take approximately 8 years until the entire country is educated on democracy, and true democratic votes can be held.

The Liberty Party my dad voted for, obtained approximately 8.9%. This in my opinion, is good, as now nothing can be kept secrete from the public or at least nothing that happens in parliament.

I don't understand.. The Muslim Brotherhood hasn't been around for "100s of years"...
 
Yes, Yes, Yes.

Of course Erod.

Have fun in your bizarro universe, where a member of NATO (Turkey) would attack Israel.

You've gone off the deep end.

Turkey is looking shakier all the time. After Syria......

50 years ago, Baghdad was a vacation destination. Not everything stays the same, Jet, and the Middle East is changing almost by the day, and not in a terribly good way.
 
It is one of the oldest and and largest Islamist movements, maybe not 100's of year got a bit carried away there, but it's been around since 1928.
 
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