I hate that. When you start and thread, ask for thoughts and someone cuts your premise to pieces, be prepared to defend it or don't start threads.
Oh, I don't run sir, nope, not at all. But I will not be drawn into a snarky back and forth with someone that has no intention of being honest in the conversation.
Oh. BTW, are you Catholic?
1) There is no rule currently being enforced.
No rule being enforced? What are you talking about? You mean within the Chruch?
The Catholic doctrine considers the use of contraceptives a mortal sin. That members are not ex-communicated for confessing such, is ultimately between the parishioner and their priest. It is not for you, nor I to pass that judgement.
2) This is all about anti-Obama, so Fox News will feature the story every hour on the hour. They are very predictable.
It is not just FOX. Turn on your TV, and tune to MSNBC. I am watching it right now, and Matthews, and Schultz have both led with the issue.
3) Catholics use contraceptives regardless of what the celibate priests and bishops say.
Each person has an individual walk with God, and the Church. I will not be my brothers judge. Why do you feel you should be?
4) Just because a business flies under the banner of the church does not give it unlimited protection. They hire people of all faiths and atheists. Who is forcing the Catholic to actually get and use the contraception? Answer: No one. Shouldn't that be an individual's choice?
I think you are off base here. You seem to want to catagorize Catholic hospitals, charities, and schools as some sort of scheme using the Church to skirt certain law, and tax. This couldn't be further from the truth. These institutions are a part of the Church, and governed as such. They do much charitable good for the community, and country as a whole.
This is like you saying that if there were Muslim hospitals in this country, and HHS decided that white meat was health beneficial, and mandated availability of Pork products to be served within all Mosques, hospitals, schools, and so on etc....How do you think that would be viewed?
5) Rape victims have been denied morning after pill by Catholic hospitals. They made the victim feel even worse for asking for it. But Catholics wrote the book on guilt.
Are the Catholic institutions the only place that the victim can go? And further, what blotto world is this when liberals scream at a prayer being said at a graduation, but it is fine for the government to tell a religion to cast their tennants aside, and they will dictate what that religion must offer?
Again, don't start threads if you can't stand the debate part.
See hazelnut, this is where reasonable people dismiss your rants in most cases as just too crazy to even engage. You have to get these digs in there to push buttons of emotion, without that you would lose every debate you actually attempt. But I will give the benefit of the doubt here and give it a try, but I won't put up with too much silliness from you sir, so stick to it.
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