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NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

Why would I want one? If I wanted to hunt I still can, and if I was so scared that I only felt safe with a gun, I can still have one.


And more snotty ignorance. the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or fear, chief. If you really want to try to look down your nose at folk, you shouldn't do it from a position of collosal ignorance. :pimpdaddy:


Later bro, you bore me.
 
And more snotty ignorance. the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or fear, chief. If you really want to try to look down your nose at folk, you shouldn't do it from a position of collosal ignorance. :pimpdaddy:


Later bro, you bore me.

It also has nothing to do with much of how we look at weapons today. Largely it had to do with the use of a citizen militia, and not the people just being heavily armed because they wanted to be. it was also more a tool, like a car today, back than it is now.

I'm sorry you somehow read things a snotty. I don't get it, but I can't do much about your self esteem. The point is, you still are allowed to have guns. It's a simply point and in no way looking down on anyone.
 
It also has nothing to do with much of how we look at weapons today. Largely it had to do with the use of a citizen militia, and not the people just being heavily armed because they wanted to be. it was also more a tool, like a car today, back than it is now.

I'm sorry you somehow read things a snotty. I don't get it, but I can't do much about your self esteem. The point is, you still are allowed to have guns. It's a simply point and in no way looking down on anyone.




Your argument is asinine as is your position. Let's ban all cars except for smart cars, you would tell a family of 8 "You can own a car, I am right" arrogant ignorance.... So annoying.
 
That would be like telling a black man that during slavery, at least he had a job. :doh

Hardly. YOu are, as you have always been, able to own a gun or guns. No one is abusing you.
 
Your argument is asinine as is your position. Let's ban all cars except for smart cars, you would tell a family of 8 "You can own a car, I am right" arrogant ignorance.... So annoying.

Noone has done anything like that with guns, but in fact, cars have regulations and limits as well. And in somestates, you even have to have them inspected to make sure they meet a minimal standard, or you can't drive them.

Being hyperbolic won't convince me. Sorry.
 
Did you own a gun in the 90's? Are those guns banned today? The point is, your guns have not been taken away. There have nearly always been regulations. All the way back to US v Miller, sawed off shots were banned in some places. But, gun ownership remained, and remains constant. All that fretting, meaningless.

Talking about meaningless...........

No one said the assault weapons ban took guns away from anyone. In case you are unfamiliar with the law, which seems obvious based on your comments, the AWB signed into law by Clinton banned the manufacture of guns based on their appearance. It had absolutely nothing to do with their firepower or lethality.
 
Hardly. YOu are, as you have always been, able to own a gun or guns. No one is abusing you.

Sure, you can own the guns that the government says you can, but guns that "look" dangerous were outlawed.
 
If you owned an m14, ar-15, or ak clone before NJ's AWB, then you had to get rid of it, defacto confiscation. I.E. "taken away".

Why would I want one? If I wanted to hunt I still can, and if I was so scared that I only felt safe with a gun, I can still have one.

By that logic, it would not be a violation of religious freedom for the government to ban certain religions. If it's illegal to be a Catholic, but you can still be a Methodist, then your freedom is not being violated, right?
 
That guy is, by law, a dealer.
A collector doesn't engage in the business of selling firearms, he's breaking the law.

Instead of poo pooing about private sales and gun shows, they should of turned that guy into the ATF.

Glad that you seem to agree the law was being broken at that particular gun show in AZ.

Those videos have been made available to the public and I would hope the proper authorities will follow up on this, now that someone has shed some light on what goes on there.
 
By that logic, it would not be a violation of religious freedom for the government to ban certain religions. If it's illegal to be a Catholic, but you can still be a Methodist, then your freedom is not being violated, right?

Not a very good comparison at all. Our laws on relgion are not prefaced with being well regulated. Same with cars. Or meat. Or any number of products that we are allowed to regulate for a varity of reasons. Apples anmd tee frog comparisons don't help either. Sorry.
 
Sure, you can own the guns that the government says you can, but guns that "look" dangerous were outlawed.

There's not many of those. I think you can even get automatic weapons today. Not sure why, but it is legal. You can have rifles, shot guns and hand guns. All these years, and still no ban of the right to have weapons. And still, you guys behave like it's goign to happen tomorrow. Can't you see how some can see that as kind of silly?
 
did you also know that in many cases Bloomberg's butt boys would call up someone who had an ad in a paper or gun listing site and ask the seller to meet him outside a gun show so Bloomberg could whine about the gun show?

Its easy to buy Oxy without a prescription too.

No I didn't and its not as if I care, didn't you have anything to add about the video, you know the part about the two fellas openly discussing how neither one of them are able to pass a background check just before they engage in the sale/purchase of a deadly weapon(inside a gun show)?

Also, sorry if you have an oxy problem, I am not sure illegal gun sales are going to help you with those demons.
 
I do not know if you ever collected comics,coins or anything else but people who collect stuff tend to have huge collections.For example my mom has a huge collection of Flamingo memorabilia. Coffee cups, figurines, cups, that crappy outdoor plastic flamingos,Christmas ornaments,the two dollar flamingo coin from the Bahamas and a who bunch of other stuff.

"The good thing is, though, if you don't like it you can just sell it later and its not in your name like when you buy a new one you have to worry where it's going to end up".

I would bet mom doesn't hear that when she is buying or selling flamingos, gee I wonder why.
 
Well...lets see...

If something illegal happened I wouldnt really have a problem with a 'sting operation' at gun stores. However...this is Mayor Bloombergs own commentary...



And you will see...nothing illegal about the transaction (as admitted to by Mayor Bloomberg). If you view a couple of the other clips...you will see where one individual says 'I probably wouldnt pass a background check'. He doesnt say he wouldnt, and he doesnt say what for. now...me? I probably would have sold him the weapon...provided that he agreed to do as I have done with ALL private sales of weapons I have made...met me at the sherriffs office to conduct the transaction. But OK...there are SOME people that may sell legal firearms under questionable situations at gun shows.

In New York City in 2010, there were 50,300 marijuana arrests alone. Illegal drugs mind you...being sold on their streets.
In New York City alone (as per the NYTimes) there were 5,913 illegal firearms recovered...about half of which were traced to legal sales in the country...420 originated...gasp...right there in New York. The largest single state provider...not through gun shows...no...it was...New York.

"The federal government’s recent analysis [pdf] shows that while 420 of the illegal guns recovered in the city had originally been sold within New York State — accounting for the largest single-state total — a majority of the guns had been sold in other states, like Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia."

Mayor Bloomberg...you have a problem. Maybe you should dedicate more of your time fighting the illegal drugs flowing through your city (which you cant blame on the occasional dealer at a gun show in Az) or even...heck...the illegal gun sales occuring...in your own STATE. Since...you know...this is your cause...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/city_room/20080227_GUNS.pdf
 
WTF! Who in the hell does Bloomberg think he is? He, nor his police force has ANY jurisdiction in AZ what so ever, and these people he sent in to this gun show under false pretense should have been arrested.

When I first heard this reported it was reported that these were NYC police, and in fact the story states "task force", but they also say that they are private investigators....If these are NYC police, then AZ state troopers should be outraged at this.

I can't tell you how this boils my blood.

j-mac



WAY out of his jurisdiction....
.... dude needs to figure out that "Mayor of NYC" =/= "President of the USA"
 
Are you kidding me here? It broke laws....False ID for one. If they took those guns out of state then they were transporting accross state lines, after purchasing them under false pretenses....That is just off the top of my head here...Didn't break any laws....Get outta here with that....


j-mac

The point is the sellers didn't give a hoot about background checks, false ID's or ANYTHING. Your mad that the cats out of the bag.?
 
"The good thing is, though, if you don't like it you can just sell it later and its not in your name like when you buy a new one you have to worry where it's going to end up".

I would bet mom doesn't hear that when she is buying or selling flamingos, gee I wonder why.

Mom has a constitutional right to keep and bear arms ,not flamingos so it is not really a bit of different where a firearm or flamingo ends up.
 
The point is the sellers didn't give a hoot about background checks, false ID's or ANYTHING. Your mad that the cats out of the bag.?
Private sellers do not have to perform back ground checks.So why would they give a hoot about back ground checks, false IDs and anything else they don't have to verify?
 
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The point is the sellers didn't give a hoot about background checks, false ID's or ANYTHING. Your mad that the cats out of the bag.?
Which bag is it that the cat is out of? Was there a law that they violated?
 
No, I don't deny this, and there has been almost since the begining of the union. What I deny is that you have anything to really fear. Gun ownership has remained constant, and all of the fretting has just been silliness.

that is idiotic. half the guns I own, the boxes have "NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA" on them
 
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