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'Joe the Plumber' pays himself a salary from campaign money

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Joe the Plumber? No, it's Joe the Grifter. Let me explain, but first, a little piece of breaking news:

Congressional candidate Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher (aka "Joe the Plumber") is paying himself a salary from campaign funds, according to a Federal Election Commission report filed today.

Campaign spokesman Roman Schroeder says Wurzelbacher, of Holland, is paying himself a $5,000-per-month salary because he's had to stop working to campaign full time.

"The salary is significantly less than what he made as a plumber," Schroeder told The Plain Dealer. "The reason why candidates accept salaries from campaigns, particularly working-class candidates, is that they can't run unless they can support themselves."
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Now there are a few things missing from this news article:

1) Joe the Plumber claims to be a plumber, but does not have a license. I don't know what they call it where Joe comes from, but here in Texas, they call it illegal, and in Texas, Joe the Plumber would be called a bootlegger.

2) Joe the Plumber claims he had to quit doing plumbing work, and makes less money from his campaign. But what is missing from this BS statement is a real huge smoking gun. Joe the Plumber is running for Congress in Ohio's 9th district, one that was gerrymandered to be so blue that Republicans typically do not even run there, because it is considered to be political suicide. Why would he even consider running? For the money, of course.

3) And Joe the Plumber is paying himself a salary equivalent to 60 grand a year to run for office, money that comes from political donations to his little scheme.

Case closed. After this year, when campaigns end, Joe the Plumber is going to have to find himself a new con game to run. Either that, or go back to claiming he is something that he never was. There is so much crap surrounding him, and his game, that it is going to take a REAL plumber to fix it.

Yes, It IS about the money, and nothing else. Actually, come to think of it, Joe the Plumber is such a con man that he would fit right in if he were somehow miraculously elected to Congress. LOL.

Article is here.
 
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Dana, as much as I dislike attention whores, it seems like if he's doing this "for the money", he's either stupid or taking a ridiculous gamble with his family's well being because he believes in something. I personally would like to think he actually believes he can be elected and is taking the $5K because he really has no other option. I don't know too much about fund raising laws but I think exceptions like this should be legitimate when the candidate isn't some rich bastard.
 
danarhea said:
Joe the Plumber is running for Congress in Ohio's 9th district, one that was gerrymandered to be so blue that Republicans typically do not even run there, because it is considered to be political suicide. Why would he even consider running? For the money, of course.
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Actually, no. It was gerrymandered so that preposterously, hopelessly blue Toledo would offset the far more Republican (and less-populated) counties of Ottawa, Erie, and Lorain, and eliminate the two former Republican seats which once represented them. And Republicans do run, every time.

I know this, because I grew up in Ottawa County.

This characterization is wrong, so wherever you got it from, they're far more interested in smearing Wurzelbacher again than getting to any actual truth.

Why does he bother you so much?
 
So, what's he supposed to do? Starve?
 
danarhea said:
Joe the Plumber? No, it's Joe the Grifter. Let me explain, but first, a little piece of breaking news:



Now there are a few things missing from this news article:

1) Joe the Plumber claims to be a plumber, but does not have a license. I don't know what they call it where Joe comes from, but here in Texas, they call it illegal, and in Texas, Joe the Plumber would be called a bootlegger.

2) Joe the Plumber claims he had to quit doing plumbing work, and makes less money from his campaign. But what is missing from this BS statement is a real huge smoking gun. Joe the Plumber is running for Congress in Ohio's 9th district, one that was gerrymandered to be so blue that Republicans typically do not even run there, because it is considered to be political suicide. Why would he even consider running? For the money, of course.

3) And Joe the Plumber is paying himself a salary equivalent to 60 grand a year to run for office, money that comes from political donations to his little scheme.

Case closed. After this year, when campaigns end, Joe the Plumber is going to have to find himself a new con game to run. Either that, or go back to claiming he is something that he never was. There is so much crap surrounding him, and his game, that it is going to take a REAL plumber to fix it.

Yes, It IS about the money, and nothing else. Actually, come to think of it, Joe the Plumber is such a con man that he would fit right in if he were somehow miraculously elected to Congress. LOL.

Article is here.
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1. He was employed by a plumbing company and did work under their license. This limited the locations he could work, but he WAS a legal plumber.

2. I'll leave it to others to talk about the political makeup of Ohio.

3. This is legal...the law allows this to encourage the non-wealthy to run for office.

I don't think this is about the money. Joe hasn't earned any money as a plumber for quite some time. His income comes from his book and speaking engagements.

Joe the Plumber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
danarhea said:
1) Joe the Plumber claims to be a plumber, but does not have a license. I don't know what they call it where Joe comes from, but here in Texas, they call it illegal, and in Texas, Joe the Plumber would be called a bootlegger.
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Let me just reiterate this point.....

He's not a licensed plumber! True, but he worked for a licensed plumber so he didn't need his own license.
 
Harshaw said:
Actually, no. It was gerrymandered so that preposterously, hopelessly blue Toledo would offset the far more Republican (and less-populated) counties of Ottawa, Erie, and Lorain, and eliminate the two former Republican seats which once represented them. And Republicans do run, every time.

I know this, because I grew up in Ottawa County.

This characterization is wrong, so wherever you got it from, they're far more interested in smearing Wurzelbacher again than getting to any actual truth.

Why does he bother you so much?
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He's not a "real" conservative like Dan, you know, he's against big government spending and public sector unions. This bothers dan.
 
This clown had his 15 minutes of fame. Its sad that he does not know it is way past expired.

In political consulting, there are candidates who do things like milk your own campaign expense account and its normally a sign of one of two things: greed, since they know they are taking everyone for a sucker and its just another payday or they know they will lose so they get it while they can in the short run.
 
haymarket said:
This clown had his 15 minutes of fame. Its sad that he does not know it is way past expired.

In political consulting, there are candidates who do things like milk your own campaign expense account and its normally a sign of one of two things: greed, since they know they are taking everyone for a sucker and its just another payday or they know they will lose so they get it while they can in the short run.
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This is truly a sad reply...

The truth is....whatever personal short comings JTP might have had are truly irrelevant. JTP was/is the individual citizen who got to ask the question on the minds of millions and did so in an unguarded moment. President Obama then uttered his famous "spread the wealth around" comment. JTP represents the free-market, free-enterprise, capitalist, work-hard-and-reap-the-rewards spirit of America. Contrast that with Obama's socialist "spread the wealth" philosophy.
 
ric27 said:
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This is truly a sad reply...

The truth is....whatever personal short comings JTP might have had are truly irrelevant. .
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Karma is a bitch.
 
Top Cat said:
Karma is a bitch.
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JTP is going to see some bad karma because he daired question The Messiah?

The only thing he's guilty of, is not learning to play the game. He should have hired his wife a staffer, paid her the money, then she could simply give him the cash.
 
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danarhea said:
Joe the Plumber? No, it's Joe the Grifter. Let me explain, but first, a little piece of breaking news:



Now there are a few things missing from this news article:

1) Joe the Plumber claims to be a plumber, but does not have a license. I don't know what they call it where Joe comes from, but here in Texas, they call it illegal, and in Texas, Joe the Plumber would be called a bootlegger.

2) Joe the Plumber claims he had to quit doing plumbing work, and makes less money from his campaign. But what is missing from this BS statement is a real huge smoking gun. Joe the Plumber is running for Congress in Ohio's 9th district, one that was gerrymandered to be so blue that Republicans typically do not even run there, because it is considered to be political suicide. Why would he even consider running? For the money, of course.

3) And Joe the Plumber is paying himself a salary equivalent to 60 grand a year to run for office, money that comes from political donations to his little scheme.

Case closed. After this year, when campaigns end, Joe the Plumber is going to have to find himself a new con game to run. Either that, or go back to claiming he is something that he never was. There is so much crap surrounding him, and his game, that it is going to take a REAL plumber to fix it.

Yes, It IS about the money, and nothing else. Actually, come to think of it, Joe the Plumber is such a con man that he would fit right in if he were somehow miraculously elected to Congress. LOL.

Article is here.
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Dan, I just have to wonder about you sometimes. For someone who says he's a conservative, it sure seems like you have far more posts smearing people from the right side of the fence than the left.
 
danarhea said:
Joe the Plumber? No, it's Joe the Grifter. Let me explain, but first, a little piece of breaking news:



Now there are a few things missing from this news article:

1) Joe the Plumber claims to be a plumber, but does not have a license. I don't know what they call it where Joe comes from, but here in Texas, they call it illegal, and in Texas, Joe the Plumber would be called a bootlegger.

2) Joe the Plumber claims he had to quit doing plumbing work, and makes less money from his campaign. But what is missing from this BS statement is a real huge smoking gun. Joe the Plumber is running for Congress in Ohio's 9th district, one that was gerrymandered to be so blue that Republicans typically do not even run there, because it is considered to be political suicide. Why would he even consider running? For the money, of course.

3) And Joe the Plumber is paying himself a salary equivalent to 60 grand a year to run for office, money that comes from political donations to his little scheme.

Case closed. After this year, when campaigns end, Joe the Plumber is going to have to find himself a new con game to run. Either that, or go back to claiming he is something that he never was. There is so much crap surrounding him, and his game, that it is going to take a REAL plumber to fix it.

Yes, It IS about the money, and nothing else. Actually, come to think of it, Joe the Plumber is such a con man that he would fit right in if he were somehow miraculously elected to Congress. LOL.

Article is here.
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who - what?

He was 'news' so long ago - who cares? I'm surprised ot see you react this way to a washed up crack haver (plumber's crack - that is) :shrug: You ok?
 
apdst said:
JTP is going to see some bad karma because he daired question The Messiah?

The only thing he's guilty of, is not learning to play the game. He should have hired his wife a staffer, paid her the money, then she could simply give him the cash.
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If stupidity was something you could be guilty of Joe would have been executed a longtime ago as his punishment.
 
Top Cat said:
Karma is a bitch.
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an interesting comment from someone who appears to want the successful to be taxed more and more to support those whose "karma"leads to them suckling on the public teat
 
haymarket said:
If stupidity was something you could be guilty of Joe would have been executed a longtime ago as his punishment.
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I suspect that would be a statute many on this board would be most cautioned not to support
 
It appears he is not breaking any laws. He has the wherewithal to make a go for it. Is this not what the American dream is built upon?
 
Connery said:
It appears he is not breaking any laws. He has the wherewithal to make a go for it. Is this not what the American dream is built upon?
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I am surprised it is legal. I would have thought paying oneself from political donations would have been illegal.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I am surprised it is legal. I would have thought paying oneself from political donations would have been illegal.
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It is legal under certain conditions:
The personal use regulations retain the existing prohibitions regarding personal use of campaign funds but amended them in a few areas. Some of the amendments include:

House and Senate candidates are permitted, under certain conditions, to receive a salary from their campaign committee
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Federal Election Commission
 
If you ask me, its the only way a normal citizen can run for office.

And, its no different than a charity paying their employees through donations.
 
danarhea said:
Joe the Plumber? No, it's Joe the Grifter. Let me explain, but first, a little piece of breaking news:



Now there are a few things missing from this news article:

1) Joe the Plumber claims to be a plumber, but does not have a license. I don't know what they call it where Joe comes from, but here in Texas, they call it illegal, and in Texas, Joe the Plumber would be called a bootlegger.

2) Joe the Plumber claims he had to quit doing plumbing work, and makes less money from his campaign. But what is missing from this BS statement is a real huge smoking gun. Joe the Plumber is running for Congress in Ohio's 9th district, one that was gerrymandered to be so blue that Republicans typically do not even run there, because it is considered to be political suicide. Why would he even consider running? For the money, of course.

3) And Joe the Plumber is paying himself a salary equivalent to 60 grand a year to run for office, money that comes from political donations to his little scheme.

Case closed. After this year, when campaigns end, Joe the Plumber is going to have to find himself a new con game to run. Either that, or go back to claiming he is something that he never was. There is so much crap surrounding him, and his game, that it is going to take a REAL plumber to fix it.

Yes, It IS about the money, and nothing else. Actually, come to think of it, Joe the Plumber is such a con man that he would fit right in if he were somehow miraculously elected to Congress. LOL.

Article is here.
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1. This really depends. If he works for a licensed plumber, its perfectly legal in OH as well as Texas.

2. So, because its traditionally a "blue" district, the only reason someone would run on a GOP ticket here would be to scam? Thats a pretty big leap. Perhaps he feels his blue collar background will give him a leg up against two career politicians. Not that far fetched.

3. So basically, what you're saying, only the wealthy should run for higher political office? Thats whole reason that its legal.

I can give a sh!t about this guy, just think you're making some pretty big leaps here with little to nothing to back it up.
 
Fishstyx said:
1. This really depends. If he works for a licensed plumber, its perfectly legal in OH as well as Texas.

2. So, because its traditionally a "blue" district, the only reason someone would run on a GOP ticket here would be to scam? Thats a pretty big leap. Perhaps he feels his blue collar background will give him a leg up against two career politicians. Not that far fetched.

3. So basically, what you're saying, only the wealthy should run for higher political office? Thats whole reason that its legal.

I can give a sh!t about this guy, just think you're making some pretty big leaps here with little to nothing to back it up.
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Joe probably make a pile more money as well. Ever see one of their bills? I hired one to hook up a hot water heater, but I wanted it to comply with code before I sold the house. When I looked at the bill I thought "I didn't order the open heart surgery".
 
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