US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

Conservative · Feb 29, 2012

AdamT said:
Conservative said:

As ever, Obama could walk on water while laying golden eggs and turning blood into wine ... and you'd still manage to turn it into whine.

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It takes no effort at all just experience which apparently you don't have. You buy what you are told and ignore the cost benefit of the numbers Obama has generated. debt means nothing to you nor does the class warfare, attempts at wealth redistribution, demonization of individual wealth creation, apologizing for America, delegating responsibility, all evidence of a total failure.

AdamT · Feb 29, 2012

Conservative said:
AdamT said:

It takes no effort at all just experience which apparently you don't have. You buy what you are told and ignore the cost benefit of the numbers Obama has generated. debt means nothing to you nor does the class warfare, attempts at wealth redistribution, demonization of individual wealth creation, apologizing for America, delegating responsibility, all evidence of a total failure.

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Blah blah blah. You spend half your time defending one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation, a guy who ran up the debt by $5 trillion dollars ... when the economy was doing well. A guy who started a bogus war based on fake intelligence. A guy who did absolutely nothing to avert the worst recession in three generations. And you have the audacity to whine about the guy who's mopping up your boy's spilled milk? It's enough to make me puke.

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 29, 2012

Conservative said:
The part where you said you answered my question because you didn't and no one here is supporting your claim

Tell ya what, Con ... you ran away from the last bet you made as fast as your walker would allow. Now I'm offering you a new bet. Hopefully, I'll have more success than last time in convincing you to lead with your convictions rather than flee in embarrassing fashion ...

You said I didn't already answer that question and I say that I did. If I didn't, then no such question and reply exists and you win the bet and I will leave this forum for a year. However, if I am right and I did already answer that question and I find it and re-post it here, then I win the bet and you leave this debatepolitics.com for a year.

Whatd'ya say, partner? Do we have a bet?

By the way, if you run away from this bet too, consider it tacit surrender on your part that you acknowledge what I said ... Asked and answered.

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 29, 2012

Conservative said:
It takes no effort at all just experience which apparently you don't have. You buy what you are told and ignore the cost benefit of the numbers Obama has generated. debt means nothing to you nor does the class warfare, attempts at wealth redistribution, demonization of individual wealth creation, apologizing for America, delegating responsibility, all evidence of a total failure.

Tell me you didn't just say that???

WTF???

Bush: 4.9 trillion
Obama: 4.8 trillion

Bush increased the debt more than Obama and you're projecting it's others who don't care about debt???

:screwy :screwy :screwy :screwy :screwy

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

AdamT said:
Conservative said:

Blah blah blah. You spend half your time defending one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation, a guy who ran up the debt by $5 trillion dollars ... when the economy was doing well. A guy who started a bogus war based on fake intelligence. A guy who did absolutely nothing to avert the worst recession in three generations. And you have the audacity to whine about the guy who's mopping up your boy's spilled milk? It's enough to make me puke.

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Bush isn't the issue, Obama record is and no, I never defended the worst President in the history of the country, Obama. I keep hearing that Obama is cleaning up the Bush mess and have seen no evidence that Bush created the mess alone and that Obama was part of the problem then and the entire problem now.

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Tell me you didn't just say that???

WTF???

Bush: 4.9 trillion
Obama: 4.8 trillion

Bush increased the debt more than Obama and you're projecting it's others who don't care about debt???

:screwy :screwy :screwy :screwy :screwy

Right, Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 YEARS, Obama 4.8 trillion in less than four.

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Tell ya what, Con ... you ran away from the last bet you made as fast as your walker would allow. Now I'm offering you a new bet. Hopefully, I'll have more success than last time in convincing you to lead with your convictions rather than flee in embarrassing fashion ...

You said I didn't already answer that question and I say that I did. If I didn't, then no such question and reply exists and you win the bet and I will leave this forum for a year. However, if I am right and I did already answer that question and I find it and re-post it here, then I win the bet and you leave this debatepolitics.com for a year.

Whatd'ya say, partner? Do we have a bet?

By the way, if you run away from this bet too, consider it tacit surrender on your part that you acknowledge what I said ... Asked and answered.

Got it, Sheik, you don't want to answer the question and I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to answer it either if I supported Obama

Blue_State · Mar 1, 2012

Conservative said:
AdamT said:

Bush isn't the issue, Obama record is and no, I never defended the worst President in the history of the country, Obama. I keep hearing that Obama is cleaning up the Bush mess and have seen no evidence that Bush created the mess alone and that Obama was part of the problem then and the entire problem now.

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It had to be Bush. It couldn't be a economic and social policy enacted by Clinton that did this. Oh wait...****.

disneydude · Mar 1, 2012

AdamT said:
Blah blah blah. You spend half your time defending one of the worst presidents in the history of this nation, a guy who ran up the debt by $5 trillion dollars ... when the economy was doing well. A guy who started a bogus war based on fake intelligence. A guy who did absolutely nothing to avert the worst recession in three generations. And you have the audacity to whine about the guy who's mopping up your boy's spilled milk? It's enough to make me puke.

You have to understand Adam....Conservative lives in world where 911 occurred on Clinton's watch, Osama Bin Laden was captured and killed by GWB and GWB took the Clinton surplus and with his incredible economic genius, turned it into an economy that blossomed and bloomed so that when he left office America was living in a utopia.

In Conservatives world, GWB went after those who attacked us on 911 and restored peace and prosperity to the nation as a result of his effective foreign policy.

Once you understand this.....Conservative makes perfect sense.

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Blue_State said:
Conservative said:

It had to be Bush. It couldn't be a economic and social policy enacted by Clinton that did this. Oh wait...****.

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Of course it has to be Bush, for that is what Obama supporters always do, blame someone else for their own failures including their own especially when liberal policies fail. Liberals have an arrogance that says other liberal spending that has failed really is only because that group of liberals didn't spend the money right therefore this group of liberals needs more money to correct the problems.

Here is a pretty good op ed piece labeled "common sense" which seems to be lacking in most liberals

Cavuto: It's human nature to take credit when things go well - Common Sense - Your World with Cavuto - Fox News

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

disneydude said:
You have to understand Adam....Conservative lives in world where 911 occurred on Clinton's watch, Osama Bin Laden was captured and killed by GWB and GWB took the Clinton surplus and with his incredible economic genius, turned it into an economy that blossomed and bloomed so that when he left office America was living in a utopia.

In Conservatives world, GWB went after those who attacked us on 911 and restored peace and prosperity to the nation as a result of his effective foreign policy.

Once you understand this.....Conservative makes perfect sense.

When does the statute of limitations run out on the Bush Administration and why is it Bush is responsible for everything that happened during his term and Obama responsible for nothing that has happened. As much as you want to make this about Bush you are part of a declining number. If Obama is doing so well why are his poll numbers so low? If Obama is doing so well why are his numbers worse than Bush's? If Obama is doing so well, why are his numbers worse than the proclaimed worst President in History, Jimmy Carter?

Cavuto: It's human nature to take credit when things go well - Common Sense - Your World with Cavuto - Fox News

Sheik Yerbuti · Mar 1, 2012

Conservative said:
Right, Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 YEARS, Obama 4.8 trillion in less than four.

No matter how you try and spin it, the debt service on Bush's 4.9 trillion is higher.

But g'head, keep parading your hypocrisy by complaining about Obama raising the debt less than Bush.

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
No matter how you try and spin it, the debt service on Bush's 4.9 trillion is higher.

But g'head, keep parading your hypocrisy by complaining about Obama raising the debt less than Bush.

LOL, now that is funny. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? Amazing that you support a President with worse numbers than Jimmy Carter and GW Bush

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

Sheik Yerbuti · Mar 1, 2012

Conservative said:
Got it, Sheik, you don't want to answer the question and I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to answer it either if I supported Obama

If that were true, you would have taken the bet instead of running away from it.

:coffeepap:

Sheik Yerbuti · Mar 1, 2012

Conservative said:
LOL, now that is funny. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? Amazing that you support a President with worse numbers than Jimmy Carter and GW Bush

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

I see, so it's not results you care about, it's popularity.

:roll:

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
If that were true, you would have taken the bet instead of running away from it.

:coffeepap:

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
I see, so it's not results you care about, it's popularity.

:roll:

Cavuto: It's human nature to take credit when things go well - Common Sense - Your World with Cavuto - Fox News

Sheik Yerbuti · Mar 1, 2012

Blue_State said:
It had to be Bush. It couldn't be a economic and social policy enacted by Clinton that did this. Oh wait...****.

which policies would that be?k

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
which policies would that be?k

If only you could be as outraged over the Obama performance as you are about past performance of other Presidents. It doesn't bother you that Obama participates in class warfare, promotes wealth redistribution, penalties for producers, and claims that rich people aren't "paying their fair share" of FIT. It really is a shame that someone who thinks he is so smart has trouble with basic economic numbers as well as poor understanding of basic civics.

AdamT · Mar 1, 2012

Conservative said:
If only you could be as outraged over the Obama performance

Good performance.

The number of Americans filing first-time claims for jobless benefits fell to a level matching a four-year low, more evidence the labor market is healing.

Applications for unemployment insurance decreased 2,000 in the week ended Feb. 25 to 351,000, Labor Department figures showed today. Economists forecast 355,000 claims, according to the median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey. The number of people on unemployment benefit rolls fell, while those getting extended payments also declined.

Initial Jobless Claims Lowest Since March

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

AdamT said:
Good performance.

Isn't that wonderful, then there is no need to raise taxes on those evil rich people, corporations, or implement Obamacare, is there?

AdamT · Mar 1, 2012

Conservative said:
Isn't that wonderful, then there is no need to raise taxes on those evil rich people, corporations, or implement Obamacare, is there?

Only if you don't care about the debt -- which Republicans apparently don't.

Blue_State · Mar 1, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
which policies would that be?k

Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999

Conservative · Mar 1, 2012

AdamT said:
Only if you don't care about the debt -- which Republicans apparently don't.

Oh, I see, working people don't pay taxes and the economy then isn't growing? How would your behavior change if they raised your taxes?

AdamT · Mar 1, 2012

Blue_State said:
Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999

A huge bipartisan mistake. Note that both the House and Senate bills were authored by Republicans. "Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), the Chair of the Senate Banking Committee, was quoted as insisting that any bill brought to the Senate Floor would need to be expanded to include prohibitions on SEC regulation of the swaps market." Brilliant.