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US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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Sheik Yerbuti said:
From your link ...

Even worse for an administration straining to make the case that it deserves to be around for another four years is the real unemployment rate. It's not 8.3%, but closer to 15%, a figure that reflects those who "would like to work but have not searched for a job in the past four weeks as well as those who are working part time but would prefer full-time work," says the CBO.
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... what your article doesn't point out is how the real unemployment rate was already over 14% when Obama became president. Along with the worst economy since the Great Depression.
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Amazing, isn't it, the "worst economy since the Great Depression" is still worse than what it was when Obama took office and that is worth 4 more years for the very poorly informed like you. by now the unemployment rate was supposed to be 6% and by now the economy was supposed to generate enough revenue to half the deficit. instead there are more unemployed, fewer employed, and by the end of fiscal year 2012 the debt will have increased by 5.7 trillion dollars. Yes, that is an economy that liberals say is better.
 
Conservative said:
Book smart ignorance means you ignore human nature/behavior and individual personalities which drives activity more than any theory or economic principles.
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Conservative's translation: "Book smart ignorance" means you "think" but do not "feel," implying you need to "feel" more.

Of course, this is hysterical given his earlier oppositional observation ...


"Liberals just don't think, they feel." ~ Conservative
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Conservative's translation: "Book smart ignorance" means you "think" but do not "feel," implying you need to "feel" more.

Of course, this is hysterical given his earlier oppositional observation ...


"Liberals just don't think, they feel." ~ Conservative
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Book Smart Ignorance means you buy everything a textbook tells you and ignores human behavior and how that behavior affects book principles. Too many here including you have no concept of human behavior and the affect govt. policy has on their actions.
 
Conservative said:
Book Smart Ignorance means you buy everything a textbook tells you and ignores human behavior and how that behavior affects book principles. Too many here including you have no concept of human behavior and the affect govt. policy has on their actions.
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That's what I said you meant.
 
AdamT said:
Europe is not a monolithic entitty. The two largest economies in Europe -- Germany and France -- are doing just fine. England and Ireland, OTOH, are suffering as a result of having gone too far to fast into austerity.
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Spoken like a true statist.
 
AdamT said:
The recession was largely the result of the real estate bubble and subsequent bust. States that experienced less of a bubble are generally in better shape than states that saw huge bubbles.
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States that experienced less bullying are better off than states who saw more community organizing...
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Sounds like you should flee the country while you still can.
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Where to go? That is the question. Or do I stay here? If there were another place that was free I would go there.

The draw of the people and the land is powerful.
 
Misterveritis said:
LOL, what will that be worth in four years?
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It's worth $10,000 if he's right and nothing if you're right. That you have nothing to lose yet you still won't make the bet reveals how little you actually believe what you rant about.
 
Fletch said:
How did the members of the intelligence committee who had full access to the intelligence vote on the Iraq War Authorization?
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Senate: 13-4
House: 20-3
 
AdamT said:
I've seen it used here (probably by you), but I have no idea what it means. What does it mean?
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I think this is pretty close...

Statism is the doctrine that maintains that your life, money and property are not yours, but the property of the state. A statist is any individual who upholds this doctrine and/or supports its implementation.

A statist knows that he cannot get away with—at least, not yet—openly declaring that your life, money and property are not yours, so he advances these ideas by implicit means.

Statists enact laws that forbid you from taking certain actions altogether or only if you have their permission—and the idea is: if you may only act by permission, you do not have a right to your life. Statists, through their regulations, determine how much of your money you will be allowed to keep—and the idea is: if you do not have the right to decide how your money is spent, your money is not yours. Statists issue decrees restricting how you may use your property—and the idea is: if you do not have the right to control the use and disposal of your property, your property is not yours. These are the indirect means by which statists promote and implement their ideas.

An adult statist is grown up, physically, but in a state of self-arrested, stunted, mental development. His worldview is that of a child who can only do what his parents permit and who is dependent on his parents for everything. In the adult world, he seeks to forcibly impose this view on others. You are the child and the state, run by statists, is the parent. The statist may do anything he wants, while you may only do what the statist permits—bringing us a complete reversal of the way it should be. In fact, you should be free to do whatever you want (so long as you do not violate the right of another to do the same), while government officials should only be able to do what the law specifically permits—and no more.

WHAT IS A STATIST?
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I think in fact this is pretty close to how liberal progressives in this day see their role, which is why Obama must go.

j-mac
 
No, no one here is a statist. Such limited thinking poisons discourse.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, in that case I will go further and say that there are some that are indeed 'statist' in thought.


j-mac
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No doubt there are are some. I'm not one of them, nor is Obama or most liberals.
 
You have the individual and you have the collective. Statists believe that true power, rights and authority emanate from the state, not the individual. While they often dont deny that the individual has rights, those rights are subordinate to the supposed rights of the collective, and are determined and enforced by the state. Statists want the state involved in virtually every aspect of life and economic activity. You can see it in the way the two opposing ideologies view the Constitution. The statist believe that the state can do whatever is not prohibited by the Constitution, the individualist believes the state is limited to those powers enumerated in the Constitution.

You could argue whether Obama or your typical leftist is a socialist or not, but not wheter or not they are statists. They are.
 
Fletch said:
You have the individual and you have the collective. Statists believe that true power, rights and authority emanate from the state, not the individual. While they often dont deny that the individual has rights, those rights are subordinate to the supposed rights of the collective, and are determined and enforced by the state. Statists want the state involved in virtually every aspect of life and economic activity. You can see it in the way the two opposing ideologies view the Constitution. The statist believe that the state can do whatever is not prohibited by the Constitution, the individualist believes the state is limited to those powers enumerated in the Constitution.

You could argue whether Obama or your typical leftist is a socialist or not, but not wheter or not they are statists. They are.
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Sounds like more of the usual claptrap spewed by the right in their never-ending hatred of the left. How do I hate thee, let me count the ways.

Yaaawn

Apparently, they've added "statism" to their cabal of hatred. At any rate, by the definition you offer, all politicians are "statists" since they are employed by the state to "get involved" in the lives of individuals [collectively].
 
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j-mac said:
I think this is pretty close...




I think in fact this is pretty close to how liberal progressives in this day see their role, which is why Obama must go.

j-mac
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But wait, that definition says a statist is one who decides how much of your money you get to keep ... Since there is no one in politics who doesn't promote zero taxation, all politicians are "statists." And by extension, all individuals who vote for those "statists" become statists themselves for promoting statism.

So if you've ever voted, you're a statist too.
 
This is one of the most useless stats in the country. How long term are these jobs, what type are they, what is the pay scale?
 
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