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US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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Yeah, and even more unemployed teenagers, women, and older folks wouldn't have been counted.

Unemployed teenagers that aren't actively seeking jobs aren't countednow nor are housewives. you really need to educate yourself on the BLS method of calculating the unemployment and employment numbers. Stop playing your game here
 
Unemployed teenagers that aren't actively seeking jobs aren't countednow nor are housewives. you really need to educate yourself on the BLS method of calculating the unemployment and employment numbers. Stop playing your game here

Who said anything about not actively looking for work? Your goal posts are wearing roller skates.
 
Bush didn't add 4.6 trillion to the debt in 3 years to generate GDP Growth last year half of what it was the year before.Results don't seem to matter to a liberal especially when those results are negative against a liberal President.


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Here’s the graph is in case someone missed its previous posting and wonder what were discussing. Notice the cherry picking going on? For instance, the overlooking of the first two quarters of and concentrating only on 2010 being on the downside (but still growth) and ignore that all four quarters of 2011 trending up.According to bls the 4th quarter of 2011 was 2.8%.Soooo…:2wave:

looks like ten quarters of solid growth outa of twelve to these bloodshot eyeballs. Don’t seem to matter to conservative though.It seems to me that most conservatives would look at this graph and see a positive for the country, rather than cherrypick it for political purposes.

Sigh. i guess that's wishful thinking. :(I guess there is some hacks that just cant help themselves. It’s really kinda sad when you step back and look at it from a distance. Take the blinders and look at that graph and tell me honestly how it isn’t something positive, considering where we were three years ago.
 
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:lamo do people really believe that the economy added jobs? I mean unless they're talking 7 dollar an hour, push a broom jobs, I call bs.
Unless you show proof, your comment is bs.
 
Unless you show proof, your comment is bs.


I see no real proof that the US economy is adding DECENT jobs. Since I didn't make the original claim that hasn't really been proven, I see no reason to go any further. Believe what ever you wanna believe. And don't worry: the normalcy bias is alive and well amongst Americans. They'll believe whatever drivel the government tells them to believe.
 
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Here’s the graph is in case someone missed its previous posting and wonder what were discussing. Notice the cherry picking going on? For instance, the overlooking of the first two quarters of and concentrating only on 2010 being on the downside (but still growth) and ignore that all four quarters of 2011 trending up.According to bls the 4th quarter of 2011 was 2.8%.Soooo…:2wave:

looks like ten quarters of solid growth outa of twelve to these bloodshot eyeballs. Don’t seem to matter to conservative though.It seems to me that most conservatives would look at this graph and see a positive for the country, rather than cherrypick it for political purposes.

Sigh. i guess that's wishful thinking. :(I guess there is some hacks that just cant help themselves. It’s really kinda sad when you step back and look at it from a distance. Take the blinders and look at that graph and tell me honestly how it isn’t something positive, considering where we were three years ago.

Learn how to read your own chart, 2010 was about 3.6 percent and 2011 was 1.8%, what is it about liberalism that creates this knind of loyalty. How can 1.8% be positive when it cost over 4.6 trillion added to the debt to create those numbers. Apparently that debt doesnt matter to you? It will when interest rates go up
 
I see no real proof that the US economy is adding DECENT jobs. Since I didn't make the original claim that hasn't really been proven, I see no reason to go any further. Believe what ever you wanna believe. And don't worry: the normalcy bias is alive and well amongst Americans. They'll believe whatever drivel the government tells them to believe.

But only what a leftwing Adminstration tells them, remember Bush always lied
 
Learn how to read your own chart, 2010 was about 3.6 percent and 2011 was 1.8%, what is it about liberalism that creates this knind of loyalty. How can 1.8% be positive when it cost over 4.6 trillion added to the debt to create those numbers. Apparently that debt doesnt matter to you? It will when interest rates go up

Hey, it beats the **** out of a four quarters of negative growth that the GREAT BUSH RECESSION spawned.What is it about conservatism that "creates this knind of loyalty"?:mrgreen:
 
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Hey, it beats the **** out of a four quarters of negative growth that the GREAT BUSH RECESSION spawned.What is it about conservatism that "creates this knind of loyalty"?:mrgreen:

Typical liberal, no concept of expense and apparently 1.8% GDP Growth after 3.6% is an improving economy
 
I see no real proof that the US economy is adding DECENT jobs. Since I didn't make the original claim that hasn't really been proven, I see no reason to go any further. Believe what ever you wanna believe. And don't worry: the normalcy bias is alive and well amongst Americans. They'll believe whatever drivel the government tells them to believe.

Welcome to the club of people who actually think! :)
 
Welcome to the club of people who actually think! :)

If you consider yourself a member of that club, I wouldn't want to join and would feel insulted.
 
Typical liberal, no concept of expense and apparently 1.8% GDP Growth after 3.6% is an improving economy

Sure is,"an improving economy" when you come into a economy shrinking at the rate of –6.5% on inaugural day and its now at + 2.8%. a net gain of almost 10%, in three years of fighting the great bush recession.

Hackdom must suck badly, when all you have is talking points, then you have to distort facts where till the facts become unrecognizable and hope someone’s dim enough to believe the facts that you distorted.
 
Sure is,"an improving economy" when you come into a economy shrinking at the rate of –6.5% on inaugural day and its now at + 2.8%. a net gain of almost 10%, in three years of fighting the great bush recession.

Hackdom must suck badly, when all you have is talking points, then you have to distort facts where till the facts become unrecognizable and hope someone’s dim enough to believe the facts that you distorted.

Right, an economy that was approximately 3.6% in 2010 and 1.8% in 2011 is improving. Distorted facts? I have yet to see you refute them. you contention that the Bush economy was limited to 2008 is quite telling. Read the article from Hannan that I posted and tell me this is what you support. Your idea of success is not very credible.
 
Right, an economy that was approximately 3.6% in 2010 and 1.8% in 2011 is improving. Distorted facts? I have yet to see you refute them. you contention that the Bush economy was limited to 2008 is quite telling. Read the article from Hannan that I posted and tell me this is what you support. Your idea of success is not very credible.

Was Q4-2011 better than Q3-2011? Why yes, it was. That would be a sign of an improving economy. Was Q3-2011 better than Q2-2011? Why yes, it was. That would be another sign of an improving economy. Was Q2-2011 better than Q1-2011? Why yes, it was. That would be yet another sign of an improving economy.

The economy is improving despite your hopes and prayers that it collapses.

By the way, have you learned yet that the CPS IS the employment and unemployment data??


"CPS isn't the keeper of employment and unemployment data" ~ Conservative

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Was Q4-2011 better than Q3-2011? Why yes, it was. That would be a sign of an improving economy. Was Q3-2011 better than Q2-2011? Why yes, it was. That would be another sign of an improving economy. Was Q2-2011 better than Q1-2011? Why yes, it was. That would be yet another sign of an improving economy.

The economy is improving despite your hopes and prayers that it collapses.

By the way, have you learned yet that CPS IS employment and unemployment data??


"CPS isn't the keeper of employment and unemployment data" ~ Conservative

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So then I take it you support the Obama agenda of creating a dependent society where debt doesn't matter and dependence is the major economic policy designed to keep liberals in power? Hannan's comments mean nothing to you or the other Obama supporters. You are so right, the Obama economic policy that has created massive debt, small labor force growth, a million discouraged workers, meager economic growth, greater dependence, Religious mandates, mandatory individual purchases all in hopes of creating a European style economic model is the model that you support. It really is liberal arrogance that is destroying this country.
 
So then I take it you support the Obama agenda of creating a dependent society where debt doesn't matter and dependence is the major economic policy designed to keep liberals in power? Hannan's comments mean nothing to you or the other Obama supporters. You are so right, the Obama economic policy that has created massive debt, small labor force growth, a million discouraged workers, meager economic growth, greater dependence, Religious mandates, mandatory individual purchases all in hopes of creating a European style economic model is the model that you support. It really is liberal arrogance that is destroying this country.
Gee, Con, I guess that strawman rant makes you a European Socialist given you supprted that European Socialist, George Bush, by voting for him 4 times and he racked up more debt than Obama.

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Gee, Con, I guess that strawman rant makes you a European Socialist given you supprted that European Socialist, George Bush, by voting for him 4 times and he racked up more debt than Obama.

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Keep diverting, Sheik, for that is all you can do, socialists don't cut personal income taxes, socialists don't promote the private sector, socialists don't grow the economy 4.5 trillion dollars in 8 years. You obviously need socialism but unfortunately for you this country doesn't as we cannot afford it. How many more dependent people do you want?
 
Keep diverting, Sheik, for that is all you can do, socialists don't cut personal income taxes, socialists don't promote the private sector, socialists don't grow the economy 4.5 trillion dollars in 8 years. You obviously need socialism but unfortunately for you this country doesn't as we cannot afford it. How many more dependent people do you want?

Now matter how you try and spin in, Bush racked up more debt than Obama. You know, your leading indicator of a European Socialist. And cutting taxes contributed to that debt.

And please, Bush promoted the private sector?? That must explain why a loser like Bush lost private sector jobs after 8 years in office. Bush remains the only president in U.S. history to serve 8 years and leave office with fewer private sector jobs than when he started.

And you voted for him an unbelievable 4 times!

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Now matter how you try and spin in, Bush racked up more debt than Obama. You know, your leading indicator of a European Socialist. And cutting taxes contributed to that debt.

And please, Bush promoted the private sector?? That must explain why a loser like Bush lost private sector jobs after 8 years in office. Bush remains the only president in U.S. history to serve 8 years and leave office with fewer private sector jobs than when he started.

And you voted for him an unbelievable 4 times!

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As badly as you want to make this about Bush, Bush isn't on the ballot. You claim I made a mistake voting for Bush so you would make that same mistake voting for Obama? That is a hypocrit. Obama with the 2012 projected deficit will add more debt in 4 years than any other President in history has generated in 8. keep diverting from the Obama record for that is all you can do
 
As badly as you want to make this about Bush, Bush isn't on the ballot. You claim I made a mistake voting for Bush so you would make that same mistake voting for Obama? That is a hypocrit. Obama with the 2012 projected deficit will add more debt in 4 years than any other President in history has generated in 8. keep diverting from the Obama record for that is all you can do
If Obama fails to protect us from the nations worst terrorist attack in U.S history or if he kills over 100,000 people over WMD that don't exist, then I would agree that voting for him again is the same mistake you made.
 
If Obama fails to protect us from the nations worst terrorist attack in U.S history or if he kills over 100,000 people over WMD that don't exist, then I would agree that voting for him again is the same mistake you made.

Did you serve in Iraq? I had three family members that did so just admit it, you really don't care about our troops or what they wanted or believed. You can continue to demonize Bush while ignoring the direction this Leftwing President is taking the country. How many more people do we need to have dependent on the govt. before you say enough? How big does the debt have to get for you to say enough?
 
Did you serve in Iraq? I had three family members that did so just admit it, you really don't care about our troops or what they wanted or believed. You can continue to demonize Bush while ignoring the direction this Leftwing President is taking the country. How many more people do we need to have dependent on the govt. before you say enough? How big does the debt have to get for you to say enough?

easy enough answer: there is never enough. it's the direction that they've become attached to, not any goal.
 
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