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US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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sangha said:
Here's an answer the wingnuts won't like....."It depends on what actually happens"
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The wingnuts have proven that the only credit Obama gets is bad credit when bad things happen. He gets no credit for anything positive. Troops out of Iraq, no credit. OBL dead, no credit. Jobs growing, no credit. Stock market skyrocketing, no credit.
 
Conservative said:
Actually it depends on the actual role of the Federal Govt. vs state and individual responsibility. Remember a govt. big enough to provide you all that you want is also big enough to take it all away or have you thought beyond the moment and your own individual desires?
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Name the Republican politicians who have reduced the federal government?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
How is that killing you?

By the way, you're already paying for other peoples' healthcare, even though you don't want to. And as far as national healthcare, Obama told voters that's what he wanted to pass and he was overwhelmingly elected.
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How am i paying for the healthcare of the people in your state? i don't think you understand state and local responsibility and lump it all into Fe Ideral Responsibility. I pay for the healthcare of the uninsured in my state, not yours. If the state of TX implemented a healthcare program then that is within their authority because it can be repealed or supported by the people of the state, not so a federal program.

The more people see of Obamacare the less they like including forcing Churches to implement the will of the Federal Govt. that goes against their teachings. One of these days you are going to wake up and realize that neither you nor liberalism has all the answers.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Name the Republican politicians who have reduced the federal government?
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Wish I could but cannot, but i can tell you that Obama has put spending on steroids and massively expanded the role of the Federal Govt and that is unsustainable. This has to be reversed and four more years of Obama isn't going to do that
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
The wingnuts have proven that the only credit Obama gets is bad credit when bad things happen. He gets no credit for anything positive. Troops out of Iraq, no credit. OBL dead, no credit. Jobs growing, no credit. Stock market skyrocketing, no credit.
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Conversely, its no different for the left wingnuts. If anything bad happens it 'Bush's fault'. Obama gets no blame from them when something bad happens. He gets no blam for anything negative. Jobs fall, no blame. Stock market falls, no blame.

See how hyperpartisianship works...:lamo
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
The wingnuts have proven that the only credit Obama gets is bad credit when bad things happen. He gets no credit for anything positive. Troops out of Iraq, no credit. OBL dead, no credit. Jobs growing, no credit. Stock market skyrocketing, no credit.
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Do liberals ever think beyond the moment? What are the consequences of what Obama is implementing?

Troops out of Iraq=implementation of Bush policies
Getting Obama=reliance on years of intelligence and done with the Bush Secretary of Defense and General Petraeus again someone Bush put in charge.
Jobs growing=cost of 4.6 trillion and still less than when he took office
Stock Market=greedy corporations that obama wants to demonize
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Name the Republican politicians who have reduced the federal government?
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Name ANY politician that reduced the federal government in the last 100 yrs or so...
 
Conservative said:
How am i paying for the healthcare of the people in your state?
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Your taxes pay for uncompensated care.

Conservative said:
i don't think you understand state and local responsibility and lump it all into Fe Ideral Responsibility. I pay for the healthcare of the uninsured in my state, not yours. If the state of TX implemented a healthcare program then that is within their authority because it can be repealed or supported by the people of the state, not so a federal program.
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Spits the person who doesn't know he's paying for healthcare for people in other states.

:roll:

Conservative said:
The more people see of Obamacare the less they like including forcing Churches to implement the will of the Federal Govt. that goes against their teachings. One of these days you are going to wake up and realize that neither you nor liberalism has all the answers.
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how Progressivism is "killing you?"
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
The wingnuts have proven that the only credit Obama gets is bad credit when bad things happen. He gets no credit for anything positive. Troops out of Iraq, no credit. OBL dead, no credit. Jobs growing, no credit. Stock market skyrocketing, no credit.


Conservative said:
Do liberals ever think beyond the moment? What are the consequences of what Obama is implementing?

Troops out of Iraq=implementation of Bush policies
Getting Obama=reliance on years of intelligence and done with the Bush Secretary of Defense and General Petraeus again someone Bush put in charge.
Jobs growing=cost of 4.6 trillion and still less than when he took office
Stock Market=greedy corporations that obama wants to demonize
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Thanks for proving my point, Con! :thumbs:
 
Conservative said:
Actually it depends on the actual role of the Federal Govt. vs state and individual responsibility. Remember a govt. big enough to provide you all that you want is also big enough to take it all away or have you thought beyond the moment and your own individual desires?

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Name the Republican politicians who have reduced the federal government?

Conservative said:
Wish I could but cannot, but i can tell you that Obama has put spending on steroids and massively expanded the role of the Federal Govt and that is unsustainable. This has to be reversed and four more years of Obama isn't going to do that
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Then you have no business complaining since you are supporting the Republican party which even you confess does not do what you elect them to do.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Your taxes pay for uncompensated care.


Spits the person who doesn't know he's paying for healthcare for people in other states.

:roll:


I'm still waiting for you to explain how Progressivism is "killing you?"
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Yes, IN MY STATE NOT YOURS

Progressivism is creating an unsustainable debt that now exceeds our annual GDP
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Then you have no business complaining since you are supporting the Republican party which even you confess does not do what you elect them to do.
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The Republican House submitted a budget with cut, cap, and balance. Democrats rejected it.
 
Conservative said:
Actually it depends on the actual role of the Federal Govt. vs state and individual responsibility. Remember a govt. big enough to provide you all that you want is also big enough to take it all away or have you thought beyond the moment and your own individual desires?
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No, the economy depends on much more than your wingnut ideology requires you to believe.

Facts matter
 
Conservative said:
Yes, IN MY STATE NOT YOURS
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Posting in all caps doesn't make you right, it just make you appear even more unhinged. And yes, you pay in every state, uncompensated care collects federal dollars.

Conservative said:
Progressivism is creating an unsustainable debt that now exceeds our annual GDP
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More unhinged BS. Progressivism has been around for more than 100 years. We didn't have debt problems until Reagan trickled down on us with his voodoo economics.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Troops out of Iraq, no credit. OBL dead, no credit. Jobs growing, no credit. Stock market skyrocketing, no credit.
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The wingnuts know that those things will help Obama get re-elected. Therefore, things like killing OBL and creating jobs are bad. :cuckoo:
 
Conservative said:
Do liberals ever think beyond the moment? What are the consequences of what Obama is implementing?

Troops out of Iraq=implementation of Bush policies
Getting Obama=reliance on years of intelligence and done with the Bush Secretary of Defense and General Petraeus again someone Bush put in charge.
Jobs growing=cost of 4.6 trillion and still less than when he took office
Stock Market=greedy corporations that obama wants to demonize
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Do wingnuts ever think?

Only a crazed moron would think that getting the troops out of Iraq is the implementation of policies created by the idiot who put the troops into Iraq
Only a crazed moron would think that the idiot who let OBL escape is responsible for his death
Only a crazed moron would think that creating jobs is a bad thing
Only a crazed moron would think that Obama hates corporations so much, he's made the stock market go up to punish them :cuckoo:
 
Conservative said:
The Republican House submitted a budget with cut, cap, and balance. Democrats rejected it.
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A bill they knew would never become law so idiots could line up behind them and cheer for the party which never actually reduced the federal government. And their assault on SS, Medicare and Medicaid in that bill led to some 80% of those polled being against cutting those services to reduce the budget.
 
sangha said:
The wingnuts know that those things will help Obama get re-elected. Therefore, things like killing OBL and creating jobs are bad. :cuckoo:
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What's good for America is bad for Conservatives.
 
... it appears that Conservative's claim that, "Progressivism is killing us," is nothing by fallacious hyperbole since he's unable to rationally explain how it's "killing us."

:shrug::shrug::shrug:
 
sangha said:
No, the economy depends on much more than your wingnut ideology requires you to believe.

Facts matter
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I have dealt with you before and you once again prove that you aren't worth it. Facts do matter, and this country wasn't built on the Obama ideology nor the leftwing nanny state which seems to be equal to the Obama ideology. I don't expect you to pay for my personal expenses and personal responsibility issues so why do you expect me to pay for yours. I choose to pay to charities and my church so I know where my money goes. You seem to believe I should send it to the Federal Govt. so they spend it how they see fit wherever they see fit. There is no logic with a liberal like you
 
Conservative said:
I have dealt with you before and you once again prove that you aren't worth it. Facts do matter, and this country wasn't built on the Obama ideology nor the leftwing nanny state which seems to be equal to the Obama ideology. I don't expect you to pay for my personal expenses and personal responsibility issues so why do you expect me to pay for yours. I choose to pay to charities and my church so I know where my money goes. You seem to believe I should send it to the Federal Govt. so they spend it how they see fit wherever they see fit. There is no logic with a liberal like you
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And once again, Con has nothing but wingnut ideology to argue. His post is devoid of facts
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
... it appears that Conservative's claim that, "Progressivism is killing us," is nothing by fallacious hyperbole since he's unable to rationally explain how it's "killing us."

:shrug::shrug::shrug:
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What is sad is how little you know about debt service and no concept of future obligations. right now the interest rate on the debt is almost nothing, what happens when interest rates rise? What is the value of your dollar when it is eaten up by inflation and debt service. I hope I am around when you realize that you don't have all the answers
 
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