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US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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That's among the funniest things you've ever said, Con. Bush is the only president since Herbert Hoover led us into the Great Depression to leave office with a net loss of jobs in the private sector ... yet here you are, applauding his dubious achievement.


I was already paying for other peoples' healthcare. Maybe Obama's way will be cheaper.


You've already stated you would vote one of the FBI's most wanted terrorists over Obama. That's all anyone needs to know about your agenda.


When you voted for Bush, there were an additional 4 million people lost to underemployment. Now you complain because there are an additional 1 million. Again, it speaks to your agenda.

I do feel sorry for you, Sheik, I really did think you were smarter than this. You really don't understand leadership or personal responsibility. When I voted for Bush the GDP was more than double what it is today, we had a growing labor force, and no trillion dollar deficits.
 
In the little I have seen (so i could be mistaken) you a making a scapegoat of bush for the problems of our government.
Again, I think Obama's doing a decent job, I have no problem there. I throw Bush in the face of those who complain about Obama while applauding Bush.
 
The BLS keeps track of discouraged workers...

yes, they do and they aren't counted as unemployed plus they are more than double what Bush had as an average. Add those discouraged workers and others dropping out of the labor force and see what the Obama unemployment really is. you said I was adding my own spin so what spin is that?
 
Again, I think Obama's doing a decent job, I have no problem there. I throw Bush in the face of those who complain about Obama while applauding Bush.

You have shown over the past few months that you have no idea what a decent job is because in your world results don't matter. 4.6 trillion to generate these kind of results is a disaster that will resonate when interest rates rise.
 
And what spin would that be? Don't hear the media talking about discouraged workers do you? Any idea what a discouraged worker is and if they are counted as unemployed? Sorry to see those pesky little facts get in the way of the love affair you have with the empty suit in the WH
Yes, discouraged workers are counted in the U6 rate.

Under Obama, the U6 rate has increased 0.9 points, an increase of 6% which equates to roughly 1.4 million additional underemployed.

Under Bush, the U6 rate nearly doubled, increasing 6.9 points, an increase of 95% which equates to roughly 11.4 million additional underemployed.

G'head ... tell the forum again how much better Bush performed than Obama.


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Yes, discouraged workers are counted in the U6 rate.

Under Obama, the U6 rate has increased 0.9 points, an increase of 6% which equates to roughly 1.4 million additional underemployed.

Under Bush, the U6 rate nearly doubled, increasing 6.9 points, an increase of 95% which equates to roughly 11.4 million additional underemployed.

G'head ... tell the forum again how much better Bush performed than Obama.


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I will be happy to do so when you tell me how Bush hurt you and your family that has led to this kind of hatred and using Bush in every thread. You really need to seek some help. What was the Average Bush U-6 number during his first term compared to Obama's?

Discouraged workers by month

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945 989
2012 1059
 
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Typical progressive, confused by anything that destroys your argument about how great Obama is
Well, with only one thousand discouraged workers in Jan. 2012 (per your previous post), I can't see how he's as bad as you claim.
 
I will be happy to do so when you tell me how Bush hurt you and your family that has led to this kind of hatred and using Bush in every thread. You really need to seek some help. What was the Average Bush U-6 number during his first term compared to Obama's?

Asked and answered.

Bush adds 11.4 million underemployed and that number was increasing --
Conservative: "four more years!!"

Obama adds 1.4 million underemployed and that number is decreasing -- Conservative: "Impeach!!"
 
Maybe so but the reference to the 1936 campaign bears no association to tree’s point:



His claim was to the 1932 period when he specifically stated ‘when Hoover left FDR’. Does this make sense?


Whats confusing you about the point of my post?:2wave:

The reason I didn’t reply to you earlier was that it appeared that you wanted to derail the thread off onto a depression topic and that wasn’t what my post was about.

Great Depression (1929–1939) ...Herbert_Hoover 31st President of the United States (1929–1933....Franklin Delano Roosevelt 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945)
 
Well, with only one thousand discouraged workers in Jan. 2012 (per your previous post), I can't see how he's as bad as you claim.

You an Obama supporter? That is 1.059 MILLION. Wow, unbelievable
 
yes, they do and they aren't counted as unemployed plus they are more than double what Bush had as an average. Add those discouraged workers and others dropping out of the labor force and see what the Obama unemployment really is. you said I was adding my own spin so what spin is that?

You blame the media but the BLS keeps track of them and they're available online. The Internet is media thus your premise is false.
 
You blame the media but the BLS keeps track of them and they're available online. The Internet is media thus your premise is false.

So you think the unemployment rate went down last month to 8.3%? What exactly would it take to get you to vote for someone other than Obama?
 
So you think the unemployment rate went down last month to 8.3%?

That's the official unemployment rate according to the BLS. I suppose you think you know better?
 
That's the official unemployment rate according to the BLS. I suppose you think you know better?

the misery index always makes the unemployment rate double DONTCHA KNOW.:mrgreen:
 
the misery index always makes the unemployment rate double DONTCHA KNOW.:mrgreen:

So what matters to a liberal is the 8.3% unemployment rate because it is going down, not the 1.059 million discouraged workers that weren't counted or the individuals that dropped out of the labor force? Thanks for confirming what i always knew, liberals lack compassion and only want to advance a leftwing political agenda.
 

Asked and answered.

Bush adds 11.4 million underemployed and that number was increasing --
Conservative: "four more years!!"

Obama adds 1.4 million underemployed and that number is decreasing -- Conservative: "Impeach!!"

Bush average U-6 Percentage 9.76%, Obama 16.3%
 
So what matters to a liberal is the 8.3% unemployment rate because it is going down, not the 1.059 million discouraged workers that weren't counted or the individuals that dropped out of the labor force? Thanks for confirming what i always knew, liberals lack compassion and only want to advance a leftwing political agenda.
Says the guy who prefers an increase of 11.4 million underemployed with 734,000 discouraged workers over a 1.4 million increase of underemployed with 1,059,000 discouraged workers.

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So you think the unemployment rate went down last month to 8.3%? What exactly would it take to get you to vote for someone other than Obama?

Someone who better aligned with my views; not Newt, Ron, Rick, or Mittens.
 
Bush average U-6 Percentage 9.76%, Obama 16.3%
So? That reflects how Bush started with a 7.3% U6 and doubled it to 15.2%.

But I do admire you using percentages after you said ...


"He obviously cannot comprehend that reality for to Sheik percentage change is the all important factor, having actual unemployed more than when he took office isn't a problem to Obama supporters since the percentage change is less. ~ Conservative"


... apparently, you have no shame.

Imagine how shocked I am that you use percentages after you insult others for using them.



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