US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

Dickieboy · Feb 7, 2012

misterman said:
That was in 1932. The better comparison to this year is to 1936, when FDR sought re-election. FDR's opponent, Alf Landon, bashed the New Deal for being wasteful and bad for business. Polls and pundits predicted Landon to win. FDR won by a landslide though.

Maybe so but the reference to the 1936 campaign bears no association to tree’s point:

treedancer said:
What other recession in history was left to a President with an economy In as bad a shape as this one was? The only thing that comes close is when Hoover left FDR the great Depression.

His claim was to the 1932 period when he specifically stated ‘when Hoover left FDR’. Does this make sense?

misterman · Feb 7, 2012

Dickieboy said:
Maybe so but the reference to the 1936 campaign bears no association to tree’s point:

I was making a new one based on his.

Dickieboy · Feb 7, 2012

misterman said:
I was making a new one based on his.

Sorry, I don't understand.

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Mr. Invisible said:
Don't know if anyone has pointed this out but the U6 employment is at 15.5% (Portal Seven | U6 Unemployment Rate). In addition to this, you have those that argue that the real unemployment rate is 22.5% (Real unemployment rate: 22.5%) and that the numbers have been skewed (The January Jobs Are Statistical Artifacts - PaulCraigRoberts.org).

What country are you in??

I click on the portal seven link and nowhere does it show the unemployment rate is 15.5% ... and quoting Jerome Corsi, the biggest Birther in the nation, as claimin "real unemployment" is higher than what the BLS reports is beyond ludicrous.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
What country are you in??

I click on the portal seven link and nowhere does it show the unemployment rate is 15.5% ... and quoting Jerome Corsi, the biggest Birther in the nation, as claimin "real unemployment" is higher than what the BLS reports is beyond ludicrous.

What is ludicrous is to continue to accept the Obama smile and rhetoric as fact and ignore what he is actually doing. I can see why Obama supporters accept what he is doing because that is the only way they can survive. Someone like you however with your superior intelligence certainly ought to know better and actually see through the Obama lies. I have to believe much of what you do is an act because you are too smart to buy all the rhetoric

portal seven shows the U-6 at 15.1%

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
What is ludicrous is to continue to accept the Obama smile and rhetoric as fact and ignore what he is actually doing. I can see why Obama supporters accept what he is doing because that is the only way they can survive. Someone like you however with your superior intelligence certainly ought to know better and actually see through the Obama lies. I have to believe much of what you do is an act because you are too smart to buy all the rhetoric

Bush's record was worse in many ways and yet you accepted and supported him and his results. You are in no position to judge others.

Conservative said:
portal seven shows the U-6 at 15.1%

Tell that to Mr. Invisible ... he posted a link to portal seven and still got it wrong. :lamo

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Bush's record was worse in many ways and yet you accepted and supported him and his results. You are in no position to judge others.

Tell that to Mr. Invisible ... he posted a link to portal seven and still got it wrong. :lamo

Yet with a record of obama's worse than Bush's in many ways you are going to vote to re-elect him? Sounds like a hypocrit to me. I will take the Bush record in a heart beat over the Obama record his first three years. At least we had a growing labor force and over half the number of discouraged workers along with the following GDP Growth

GDP Percentage growth

2003
I II III IV
1.7 3.4 6.7 3.7

2011
I II III
0.4 1.3 1.8

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Bush's record was worse in many ways and yet you accepted and supported him and his results. You are in no position to judge others.

Tell that to Mr. Invisible ... he posted a link to portal seven and still got it wrong. :lamo

you are so right 15.5% is much, much worse than 15.1%. When confused with facts you knit pick which only makes you look worse

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
Yet with a record of obama's worse than Bush's in many ways you are going to vote to re-elect him? Sounds like a hypocrit to me. I will take the Bush record in a heart beat over the Obama record his first three years. At least we had a growing labor force and over half the number of discouraged workers along with the following GDP Growth

GDP Percentage growth

2003
I II III IV
1.7 3.4 6.7 3.7

2011
I II III
0.4 1.3 1.8

Hey, you left out ... Twin Towers, destroyed. Pentagon, bombed. 3,000 Americans killed. Invaded a country over WMD they didn't have. 3 million private sector jobs, gone.

Those were the results you voted for.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Hey, you left out ... Twin Towers, destroyed. Pentagon, bombed. 3,000 Americans killed. Invaded a country over WMD they didn't have. 3 million private sector jobs, gone.

Those were the results you voted for.

This is who you are going to vote to re-elect. Your Bush derangement syndrome is a serious disease, seek some help

Jan-09 Jan-12
Unemployment 12049 12754
Discouraged 734 1059
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 154395
Total Employment 142187 141637

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
you are so right 15.5% is much, much worse than 15.1%. When confused with facts you knit pick which only makes you look worse

Wrong is wrong -- especially when you have the link handy with the actual numbers. That means nothing to you since you've been caught in the past posting incorrect numbers yourself. And by the way, you were the one to correct him, which you did in post #555. Not to mention, that difference, which means so little to you, actually translates into roughly 600,000 jobs. proving once again that people who lost their job means nothing to you; for you, they're nothing but a political pawn to be used to your advantage.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Wrong is wrong -- especially when you have the link handy with the actual numbers. That means nothing to you since you've been caught in the past posting incorrect numbers yourself. And by the way, you were the one to correct him, which you did in post #555. Not to mention, that difference, which means so little to you, actually translates into roughly 600,000 jobs. proving once again that people who lost their job means nothing to you; for you, they're nothing but a political pawn to be used to your advantage.

You are definitely a legend in your own mind. A total waste of time as your self proclaimed intelligence is second to none. I can only hope that someday I could be half as smart as you seem to think you are.

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
This is who you are going to vote to re-elect. Your Bush derangement syndrome is a serious disease, seek some help

Jan-09 Jan-12
Unemployment 12049 12754
Discouraged 734 1059
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 154395
Total Employment 142187 141637

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit

And despite that, Obama's lead over the GOP contenders is growing.

:thumbs:

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
You are definitely a legend in your own mind. A total waste of time as your self proclaimed intelligence is second to none. I can only hope that someday I could be half as smart as you seem to think you are.

I must be making quite an impression on you since the only one saying I'm smart is you. I myself never ever proclaim intelligence.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
And despite that, Obama's lead over the GOP contenders is growing.

:thumbs:

Just goes to show what a smile and flowery rhetoric will do to the poorly informed. I would have thought someone as intelligent as you would actually look at results insteadof the smile.

Boo Radley · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
Just goes to show what a smile and flowery rhetoric will do to the poorly informed. I would have thought someone as intelligent as you would actually look at results insteadof the smile.

Or how poor the GOP field is. I mean, they do have to seem like they might be better. And to more than the partisan hack. :coffeepap

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Boo Radley said:
Or how poor the GOP field is. I mean, they do have to seem like they might be better. And to more than the partisan hack. :coffeepap

looking at the obama results the field shouldn't matter. Anyone of those "clowns" should be given the opportunity since Obama has failed.

Sheik Yerbuti · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
Just goes to show what a smile and flowery rhetoric will do to the poorly informed. I would have thought someone as intelligent as you would actually look at results insteadof the smile.

His rhetoric and smile have nothing to do with it. I just happen to agree most people who recognize that many of those numbers you post ad-nauseum are affected greatly by Bush. Like underemployment. Yes, there are 21 million underemployed -- but Bush, who started with 10 million underemployed handed Obama an economy with 22 million underemployed.

And to highlight your hypocrisy, you cry hourly how Obama doesn't deserve another 4 years and point to underemployment being up 1 million under Obama as one of the reasons -- yet in October in 2004, at the time you voted to give Bush 4 more years, underemployment swelled by 4 million.

Cry louder Con! America doesn't hear you.

eace

Boo Radley · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
looking at the obama results the field shouldn't matter. Anyone of those "clowns" should be given the opportunity since Obama has failed.

It always maters. Only a fool (or partisan hack) would vote for someone likely to be worse.

liblady · Feb 7, 2012

well, for me, it's the singing. he's hot.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Sheik Yerbuti said:
His rhetoric and smile have nothing to do with it. I just happen to agree most people who recognize that many of those numbers you post ad-nauseum are affected greatly by Bush. Like underemployment. Yes, there are 21 million underemployed -- but Bush, who started with 10 million underemployed handed Obama an economy with 22 million underemployed.

And to highlight your hypocrisy, you cry hourly how Obama doesn't deserve another 4 years and point to underemployment being up 1 million under Obama as one of the reasons -- yet in October in 2004, at the time you voted to give Bush 4 more years, underemployment swelled by 4 million.

Cry louder Con! America doesn't hear you. eace

Why would anyone who lives in this country agree with what Obama is doing? Do you believe it is your responsibility to pay for my healthcare or to be forced into giving more of your money to the govt. to "help" others when you can do it yourself better?

You have this obsession with Bush and what he did yet totally ignore the actual data which is much, much better than Obama's in many areas. Further Bush didn't promote massive expansion of the govt. preferring instead to let the private sector work. I am not happy with what Bush did his last four years but not enough to ever vote for Obama over Bush. I saw Obama for what he truly is, you ignore it.

As for under employment, too bad Obama doesn't have 4 million under employed nor does he have a growing labor force. When I voted for Bush the U-6 was 9.4 not 15.2%. your selective use of numbers appeals to the ignorant Obama supporter not those who know what is really going on.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Boo Radley said:
It always maters. Only a fool (or partisan hack) would vote for someone likely to be worse.

Likely to be worse than Obama? Hardly and the results show we got someone worse than Bush with that argument.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

liblady said:
well, for me, it's the singing. he's hot.

That is more true than you realize for as Matthews said "his smile is worth 10% in the general election." Doubt that the 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans are smiling nor are the people going to smile when they see the effects of the debt service on the budget for the additional 5.7 trillion he will add to the debt by the end of his first term. Imagine what that debt service is going to be with higher interest rates?

Boo Radley · Feb 7, 2012

Conservative said:
Likely to be worse than Obama? Hardly and the results show we got someone worse than Bush with that argument.

I don't agree with you there. But, yes, we can do worse, and the GOP field shows that. There is a chnace for you here, but you can't just throw up anyone. Kerry made that clear.

Conservative · Feb 7, 2012

Boo Radley said:
I don't agree with you there. But, yes, we can do worse, and the GOP field shows that. There is a chnace for you here, but you can't just throw up anyone. Kerry made that clear.

I would take Romney in a heartbeat over Obama and I am a Conservative knowing that Romney isn't my kind of conservative but his business background does it for m. Would have trouble voting for Santorum and Gingrich but would do it because of Obama

US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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