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In America, one does not have the right to walk around without your papers.
Unless you're an illegal Democrat voter.
In America, one does not have the right to walk around without your papers.
He failed to comply with a Lawful and Direct Order. So far as I'm concerned that's sufficient reason to SHOOT him, nevermind taze him.
I seriously doubt that they let park rangers have a gun. The taser was probably all she had, and she obviously shouldn't had that.
She had a baton, handcuffs, a gun and a taser. It's in one of the links here. (I posted it.)
"Because I said so" is not a good reason.
Officials to review ranger's use of Taser on man walking dogs... | www.ktvu.comAccording to a Montara resident who witnessed the confrontation in the Rancho Corral de Tierra open space area on Sunday afternoon, a female ranger had detained the dog owner for walking his two small dogs without a leash.
"The man she was citing had already leashed his dogs and provided her all his personal information," Michelle Babcock said in a statement.
"The park ranger was very rude and told him he could not leave until she heard from her base," she said. According to Babcock, the dog owner repeatedly asked why he was being detained, and eventually told the ranger to cite him or he was going to walk away.
"He started to walk away and she told him that she would Tase him if he walked another step," she said. The man turned and the ranger deployed her Taser, causing the man to fall to the ground, Babcock said. "She had taken out her Taser and she was pointing at him. He said 'Ma'am, I have a bad heart. You know if you Tase me, it could be life threatening," Babcock told KTVU. "And she didn't say anything. All we hear was almost like a gunshot. Like a pop. And then he just fell right on his back."
When a LEO tells you to "Jump" you ask "How High?" ON THE WAY UP.
If you choose not to, I have absolutely no sympathy for anything that happens to you. When you give that LEO a false name, address, etc.... you get even LESS sympathy from me. Hell, in her place I'd probably have SHOT the SOB rather than tasering him.
Additional information. Looks even worse for this ranger if the eye witness is correct:
Officials to review ranger's use of Taser on man walking dogs... | www.ktvu.com
Law enforcement officers do not have the legal or moral authority to arbitrarily detain, restrain, command, or otherwise impede people.
Mindless obedience to authority figures is cowardly and idiotic.
You'd have shot him? That's insane.
Which is part of the reason our country is headed down the toilet faster than the Titanic found the bottom of the North Atlantic.
It's also the basis of the form of Government (Authoritarianism) that I prefer.
Very likely I would have. What's insane is giving false information to a LEO and then expecting you're just going to be allowed to walk away.
We managed to detain people before the invention of tasers.
THERE WAS NO LAWFUL ORDER.
A “lawful order” would have included some rational attempt at an explanation as to why the subject was being detained, and why he should comply.
An officer of the law does not have the authority to just stop and harass anyone at random with no cause.
He was breaking a leash law. Big whoop! But he refused to give his name and, apparently, walked away. Would you have the same gut reaction if he was found to be wanted on a warrant for murder, as an example?
THERE WAS NO LAWFUL ORDER.
A “lawful order” would have included some rational attempt at an explanation as to why the subject was being detained, and why he should comply.
An officer of the law does not have the authority to just stop and harass anyone at random with no cause.
Cops aren't allowed to shoot unarmed people that pose no threat.
Even if they run.
Law enforcement officers do not have the legal or moral authority to arbitrarily detain, restrain, command, or otherwise impede people. Mindless obedience to authority figures is cowardly and idiotic.
With that witness her carreer is toast. Hope she likes being a mall guard with no tazer.
Not true. Depending on the situation, the police can shoot at an unarmed civilian who is running away
Can you imagine what this nation would be like today, if the great men who founded it had the attitude of mindlessly, blindly obeying any authority figure?
Sure they "can". They will then face an internal investigation where they could lose their job, possible criminal prosecution where they could lose their freedom, or at the very least, civil prosecution where they could lose all their money.
Mindless obedience to authority figures is cowardly and idiotic.
It's also the basis of the form of Government (Authoritarianism) that I prefer.
Nonsense. Very few LEO's have lost their jobs using force in pursuit of a detainee
Not this nation. Not this government.
Public servants need to know their place. This one forgot that she was a servant, and imagined herself to be the master. The great men who founded this nation knew what to do with public servants who tried to be our masters. I find it deeply shameful that my contemporary countrymen no longer have the courage to respond properly to such abuses.
A few cretins like this ranger, left hanging from trees, to stop them from being a further problem, and to serve as a warning to any other public servants who might have similar ideas, would go a long way toward restoring this nation to its former greatness.
You're joking..............right ??