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State of the Union Address

If obama can get enough people to get discouraged and drop out he definitely could get unemployment below 8%
Interesting that you are so focused on discouraged workers ...

Jan/2001: 301,000
Jan/2009: 734,000
Dec/2011: 945,000

Bush: 433,000 additional discouraged workers (+59%)
Obama: 211,000 additional discouraged workers (+22%)
 
Well you seem to vote for people that increase debt on a grander scale like Reagan who on his watch saw this nation turn from a creditor nation to a debtor nation.

Exactly, we all know that 1.7 trillion added to the debt to create 16.8 million jobs is much, much worse than adding 4.6 trillion to the debt to have a net job loss. That is liberal logic
 
Anyone that supports Obama can be lumped in with all the other malcontents, unions, govt. employees, and anyone else that lives off the taxpayers. Results never matter to an Obama supporter as long as you get your taxpayer funded benefits.


DAMN!!! Musta not got the word that when they were down over the weekend that the name was changed from DEBATE POLITICS, TO DEBATE OPINIONS.Why didn't someone tell me?:(
 
Interesting that you are so focused on discouraged workers ...

Jan/2001: 301,000
Jan/2009: 734,000
Dec/2011: 945,000

Bush: 433,000 additional discouraged workers (+59%)
Obama: 211,000 additional discouraged workers (+22%)

Discouraged workers by month

Discouraged workers
2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945

Notice how the discouraged workers increased as evidence showed the stimulus program being such a failure. You do know what a discouraged worker is, don't you?
 
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Obama has made Bush look great in terms of actual performance
Suuuure, uh-huh.

Bush increased unemployment 3.6 points (more than any other president except for Herbert Hoover) from 4.2% to 7.8%. Obama increased unemployment 0.7 points from 7.8% to 8.5%.
 
Suuuure, uh-huh.

Bush increased unemployment 3.6 points (more than any other president except for Herbert Hoover) from 4.2% to 7.8%. Obama increased unemployment 0.7 points from 7.8% to 8.5%.

You have a serious problem with BDS, Bush isn't on the ballot in 2012 but the Obama record will be

Jan-09 Dec-11
Unemployment 12049 13097
Discouraged 734 945
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 153887
Total Employment 142187 140790

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did
 
Discouraged workers by month

Discouraged workers
2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945

Notice how the discouraged workers increased as evidence showed the stimulus program being such a failure. You do know what a discouraged worker is, don't you?

Your post confirms what I said ...

Jan/2001: 301,000
Jan/2009: 734,000
Dec/2011: 945,000

Bush: 433,000 additional discouraged workers (+59%)
Obama: 211,000 additional discouraged workers (+22%)
 
You have a serious problem with BDS, Bush isn't on the ballot in 2012 but the Obama record will be
Well, no, for about 54% of people, they still blame Bush for the economy, so Bush's failed policies will remain on the ballot for many.
 
Still no guess, eh, Con?

Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism, Conservatives can't nominate a Conservative candidate for President? This time it's looking like Romney, the most Liberal among the GOP candidates, is going to win. Last time it was McCain, again, the most Liberal among the GOP running.

Why is Conservatism so unappealing to the voting population that the right won't put up a solid Conservative to run for President?

The left put up their most Liberal candidate and not only did he win his party's nomination, he won the White House.
 
Well, no, for about 54% of people, they still blame Bush for the economy, so Bush's failed policies will remain on the ballot for many.

Yep, I am sure those malcontents, govt. employees, union employees, and minorities looking for a free handout will indeed give Obama a pass for his failures. Interesting how those numbers are changing and why Obama's JAR isn't very good at this point in his Presidency since you seem to believe he has done a good job.
 
Yep, I am sure those malcontents, govt. employees, union employees, and minorities looking for a free handout will indeed give Obama a pass for his failures. Interesting how those numbers are changing and why Obama's JAR isn't very good at this point in his Presidency since you seem to believe he has done a good job.

What part of the ballet can i expect to see "Obama's JAR "when i go into the polling booth next Nov?:mrgreen:
 
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Well, no, for about 54% of people, they still blame Bush for the economy, so Bush's failed policies will remain on the ballot for many.

Yep, I am sure those malcontents, govt. employees, union employees, and minorities looking for a free handout will indeed give Obama a pass for his failures. Interesting how those numbers are changing and why Obama's JAR isn't very good at this point in his Presidency since you seem to believe he has done a good job.
Actually, that number has been rather consistant for some time now. It's a shame you can't debate with reality on your side.
 
Yep, I am sure those malcontents, govt. employees, union employees, and minorities looking for a free handout will indeed give Obama a pass for his failures. Interesting how those numbers are changing and why Obama's JAR isn't very good at this point in his Presidency since you seem to believe he has done a good job.

You seem to be a malcontent yourself
 
Actually, that number has been rather consistant for some time now. It's a shame you can't debate with reality on your side.

Obama is being blamed for the results today and for the failure to turn this economy around which is quite different for the blame the public places on Bush for the economy Obama inherited. you don't seem to understand the difference nor do you understand that his poor JAR is evidence that it is the poor recovery and current results that Obama is being held accountable for.
 
You have a serious problem with BDS, Bush isn't on the ballot in 2012 but the Obama record will be

I posed this question before and you ran from it. What exactly is any of the current White House contender offering that wasn't exactly what Bush was offering?
 
I posed this question before and you ran from it. What exactly is any of the current White House contender offering that wasn't exactly what Bush was offering?

No contender is supporting bailout of the unions or taking over state responsibilities. No contender is promoting Obamacare. No contender is going around apologizing for American and promoting class warfare.
 
I posed this question before and you ran from it. What exactly is any of the current White House contender offering that wasn't exactly what Bush was offering?

And he'll keep running because he doesn't want to admit the GOP candidates are proposing the same excessive military spending and tax cuts to the rich that ran us into the ditch before under Bush.
 
No contender is supporting bailout of the unions or taking over state responsibilities. No contender is promoting Obamacare. No contender is going around apologizing for American and promoting class warfare.

Romney was just recently commenting on how he's mainly interested in helping the middle CLASS, but not so much the upper CLASS or lower CLASS. If that isn't class warfare, according to the silly Republican talking point term, I don't know what is. Of course Obama has also said that he's primarily focused on helping the middle class. The difference is that I believe Obama.
 
Romney was just recently commenting on how he's mainly interested in helping the middle CLASS, but not so much the upper CLASS or lower CLASS. If that isn't class warfare, according to the silly Republican talking point term, I don't know what is. Of course Obama has also said that he's primarily focused on helping the middle class. The difference is that I believe Obama.

Romney beats the alternative in the WH right now and most people know it. You believe Obama? LOL, now that is funny.
 
Romney beats the alternative in the WH right now and most people know it. You believe Obama? LOL, now that is funny.

In other words, class warfare is fine and dandy so long as the person pushing it has an R in front of his name.
 
In other words, class warfare is fine and dandy so long as the person pushing it has an R in front of his name.

Don't see the class warfare rhetoric as apparently you didn't listen to the entire speech or the content of that speech. This is going to be one dirty election as you and others are always going to attack every word and distort every sentence just to get this failure another four years
 
No contender is supporting bailout of the unions or taking over state responsibilities. No contender is promoting Obamacare. No contender is going around apologizing for American and promoting class warfare.

Can't you read? The question was which of the GOP candidates is not like Bush.
 
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