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State of the Union Address

pbrauer said:
One more thing about Romney, he told Mike Huckabee on his week end Fox show he would favor a Constructional Amendment that would declare fertilization as the beginning of life. Do you understand how problematic this would be for most contraception? The man is a boob, he will say anything to get elected. lol
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And you have a problem with favoring that why? Favoring and getting it passed are two different things but if you have no problem killing babies the a pro life President isn't your person
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Why can't you post without lying. Obama ran on wealth distribution and nationalized healthcare. How much more Liberal could he have campaigned?

And I also note that you lied to escape answering the question. The left nominates and elects their most Liberal candidate. The right can't even nominate a Conservative candidate, no less, get one elected president.

Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism?

Conservative said:
Because I can spend my money more effeciently and effectively than a bureaucrat in D.C. and do more help to those truly in need.
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My bad, I meant to ask...

Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism, Conservatives can't nominate a Conservative candidate for President?

Why is that so unappealing to the voting population?
 
pbrauer said:
One more thing about Romney, he told Mike Huckabee on his week end Fox show he would favor a Constructional Amendment that would declare fertilization as the beginning of life. Do you understand how problematic this would be for most contraception? The man is a boob, he will say anything to get elected. lol
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His biggest problem is that is about the 4th position he's taken on the issue. No one really knows where he stands on most issues because he flip-flops so much.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
His biggest problem is that is about the 4th position he's taken on the issue. No one really knows where he stands on most issues because he flip-flops so much.
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Compared to what we have, his results are quite superior to the empty suit in the WH now. Romney legally makes about 20-25 million a year through his investments and without a job and that is what we need in the WH right now to run this private sector economy. That is brilliant management and leadership
 
Conservative said:
Obviously you do because the following results are what you support

Jan-09 Dec-11
Unemployment 12049 13097
Discouraged 734 945
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 153887
Total Employment 142187 140790

Obama today has a net job loss
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About time we got we got ride of some those government gigs left over from the last administration.
 
Conservative said:
Compared to what we have, his results are quite superior to the empty suit in the WH now. Romney legally makes about 20-25 million a year through his investments and without a job and that is what we need in the WH right now to run this private sector economy. That is brilliant management and leadership
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And there 'ya go, folks. He finally admits it. Romney doesn't work for a living. :mrgreen:

EDIT: He should be drug tested. LOL.
 
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winston53660 said:
About time we got we got ride of some those government gigs left over from the last administration.
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Obama has had three years to do that and has failed. He had his chance and the numbers are worse. He will add anothe 1.1 trillion to the debt this year without a war in Iraq. he has real unemployment well over 10% and underemployment at 15.2%. He has a declining labor force and higher misery index
 
danarhea said:
And there 'ya go, folks. He finally admits it. Romney doesn't work for a living. :mrgreen:

EDIT: He should be drug tested. LOL.
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He worked hard to get where he is today and that work is paying off in the return on his investments.
 
Conservative said:
Obama has had three years to do that and has failed. He had his chance and the numbers are worse. He will add anothe 1.1 trillion to the debt this year without a war in Iraq. he has real unemployment well over 10% and underemployment at 15.2%. He has a declining labor force and higher misery index
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Er so private sector employment being up over government sector is a bad thing?
 
Why no answer, Con?

Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism, Conservatives can't nominate a Conservative candidate for President? This time it's looking like Romney, the most Liberal among the GOP candidates, is going to win. Last time it was McCain, again, the most Liberal among the GOP running.

Why is Conservatism so unappealing to the voting population that the right won't put up a solid Conservative to run for President?

The left put up their most Liberal candidate and not only did he win his party's nomination, he won the White House.
 
winston53660 said:
Er so private sector employment being up over government sector is a bad thing?
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the private sector employment should be up over the public sector since this is a private sector economy however the fact is private sector employment is down vs when obama took office and the labor force is declining. That is reality
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Why no answer, Con?

Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism, Conservatives can't nominate a Conservative candidate for President? This time it's looking like Romney, the most Liberal among the GOP candidates, is going to win. Last time it was McCain, again, the most Liberal among the GOP running.

Why is Conservatism so unappealing to the voting population that the right won't put up a solid Conservative to run for President?

The left put up their most Liberal candidate and not only did he win his party's nomination, he won the White House.
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That, Shake Your Booty, is one of the best posts I've read on Debate Politics. Excellent observation. Makes this conservative wonder. ;)
 
Conservative said:
the private sector employment should be up over the public sector since this is a private sector economy however the fact is private sector employment is down vs when obama took office and the labor force is declining. That is reality
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Along with the reality that the only reason the private sector is down since Obama became president is because of Bush's Great Recession, which lost some 4 million private sector jobs during the beginning of Obama's presidency. Since 2010, more than 3 million private sector jobs have been added.
 
MaggieD said:
That, Shake Your Booty, is one of the best posts I've read on Debate Politics. Excellent observation. Makes this conservative wonder. ;)
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What do you think the answer is? Myself, I can't explain it. Especially when I factor in that Conservatives outnumber Liberals by a factor of 2 to 1.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Along with the reality that the only reason the private sector is down since Obama became president is because of Bush's Great Recession, which lost some 4 million private sector jobs during the beginning of Obama's presidency. Since 2010, more than 3 million private sector jobs have been added.
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Yep, three years after Obama took office it is still Bush's fault that obama had 945000 discouraged workers in December 2011 and of course is it also Bush's fault that we have a declining labor force three years after Obama took office.
 
Conservative said:
And you have a problem with favoring that why? Favoring and getting it passed are two different things but if you have no problem killing babies the a pro life President isn't your person
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Hey, Con ... this is who you're voting for ...



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:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
MaggieD said:
That, Shake Your Booty, is one of the best posts I've read on Debate Politics. Excellent observation. Makes this conservative wonder. ;)
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I don't know what the answer is either although I believe that any true Conservative would take a beating by the media and would have a hard time getting the message out but could be wrong.
 
Conservative said:
I don't know what the answer is either although I believe that any true Conservative would take a beating by the media and would have a hard time getting the message out but could be wrong.
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Blaming the media is just whining. Take personal responsibility. ;)
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Hey, Con ... this is who you're voting for ...



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:lamo:lamo:lamo
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Yes, that is who I will vote for since no President has that kind of power and we have an economy in such a mess we need his leadership and business skills.
 
Conservative said:
Yep, three years after Obama took office it is still Bush's fault that obama had 945000 discouraged workers in December 2011 and of course is it also Bush's fault that we have a declining labor force three years after Obama took office.
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Most people feel that way. 54% still blame Bush. You know? The majority who you call "stupid." Only 29% agree with you.

And what you post doesn't even ding what I posted.

The only reason the private sector is down since Obama became president is because of Bush's Great Recession, which lost some 4 million private sector jobs during the beginning of Obama's presidency. Since 2010, more than 3 million private sector jobs have been added.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
What do you think the answer is? Myself, I can't explain it. Especially when I factor in that Conservatives outnumber Liberals by a factor of 2 to 1.
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I don't know. Someone posted up this link the other day 2012 Election: The Candidate Match Game - USATODAY.com -- I took the test and came out tied that my ideal candidate was either Obama or Romney. What?! Maybe the Republican stance on raising taxes is, in the end, a painful/hurtful position for them. 'Course I do support national healthcare...so maybe I'm reallly a Moderate. ;)
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:


The only reason the private sector is down since Obama became president is because of Bush's Great Recession, which lost some 4 million private sector jobs during the beginning of Obama's presidency. Since 2010, more than 3 million private sector jobs have been added.
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The President was hired to lead and promote private sector job creation and growth, not a declining labor force and fewer private sector jobs than when he was hired. That is the Obama record and I know how much he appreciates your support because you obviously need his kind of help.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, that is who I will vote for since no President has that kind of power and we have an economy in such a mess we need his leadership and business skills.
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Well he had that kind of power in Massachusetts where he passed Romneycare which covered abortions. So yes, he did keep his word and protect womens' right to choose. Stop fooling yourself into believing nonsense which is not rooted in reality.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Well he had that kind of power in Massachusetts where he passed Romneycare which covered abortions. So stop fooling yourself into believing nonsense which is not rooted in reality.
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I have no problem at all with a state program because it is easier to change at the state level than at the national level. Healthcare is a state and local responsibility not a Federal One Size fits all program
 
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