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State of the Union Address

A little more taxes? And that stops being a request by the government when?

In order to correct the existing unsavory state of affairs created by government, the government is requesting that we all work harder, and if necessary, we should procure more than one job to pay the government more of our money, liberties, and property in order to for the government to maintain the lifestyle by which it has become accustomed.

The government will also continue to require the citizens to retain it as our debt payment manager. In other words, it will be necessary to cut down our individual living standards in order to pay the government more money to be lavishly squandered while simultaneously seeking new ways to force us all to contribute more than ever before.

You can now sleep at night knowing that the U.S. Government has seen the errors of its way and now wants to attempt to redeem it self by making our lives even more miserable than what we’ve paid them to make it to be over the last 250 years.

While I agree in principle, I have to disagree in effect.
The government is not responsible, nor are it's beneficiaries.

So, we gotta do, what we gotta do.
 
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Class warfare is raising costs on those that can't afford it. But go ahead and have all your GOP favorites running elections this year to campaign on raising costs for those that can't afford it.

But no GOP candidate will because they KNOW they will get their asses handed to them by the public.

You don't think govt. increases costs on people? Do you really think that people not paying any FIT have any concern about raising FIT on those that do? When you take all the money from those evil rich people who then funds your pet projects?
 
Medicare and medicaid, by increasing cost sharing.
Instead of retirees paying what they do now, they can have their monthly premiums increased by $20-30 and their co pays increase by $10-20.


They already have cost sharing through Medicare, why would seniors choose to accept even higher costs for their health care?
 
making the rich pay more to seduce the votes from the envious has nothing to do with making things less costly for the unproductive or those truly unable to "afford it"

Raising costs on people that can't afford it is like squeezing blood from a turnip. That isn't going to lower costs either.
 
They already have cost sharing through Medicare, why would seniors choose to accept even higher costs for their health care?

Yea man, no one wants to pay more for anything.
That's why responsible and mindful adults should be in control of the process.

They should pay more because they cost the system a lot of money.
 
making the rich pay more to seduce the votes from the envious has nothing to do with making things less costly for the unproductive or those truly unable to "afford it"

TD, I have to put on my fishing waders just to read your post...

I say what I say....because for all you know...I might a part of the 1%. Join Mr. Buffett and me...how about. Shed this whatever it is you have about the so called claims about the abuse imposed on the rich in this nation by the poor. That all things are equal in opportunity nonsense...

Without the poor, the rich can't be rich.
 
You don't think govt. increases costs on people? Do you really think that people not paying any FIT have any concern about raising FIT on those that do? When you take all the money from those evil rich people who then funds your pet projects?

Lol and you think the wealthy have any problems raising the costs on those that can't afford it?
 
And who was in control of the Congress during those years?

Brian

It was the congress that pushed for raising taxes and slashing military spending? If so, how do we convince this congress to do the same?
 
While I agree in principle, I have to disagree in effect.
The government is not responsible, nor are it's beneficiaries.

So, we gotta do, what we gotta do.

Well, Harry, that's one of the problems. We seem to placate to the government's irresponsibilities. As the old saying goes... "If there are no consequences for inappropriate behavior...why stop?"

It's my contention that when we refuse to placate to the government's irresponsibilities, we'll begin to see more appropriate behaviors.
 
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Raising costs on people that can't afford it is like squeezing blood from a turnip. That isn't going to lower costs either.

If the poor faced taxes that would increase when they voted for big spending democrats that would do far more to reduce the deficit than the asswipe in chief's claim that raising taxes on those who pay too much will
 
Well, Harry, that's one of the problems. We seem to placate to the government's irresponsibilities. As the old saying goes... "If there are no consequences for inappropriate behavior...why stop?"

It's my contention that when we refuse to placate to the government's irresponsibilities, we'll begin to see more appropriate behaviors.

Your going to have to convince the constituency of the government to be more responsible.
Good luck.

Like I said, I totally agree in principle, but the rest of the country doesn't want to accept their fair share of blame, for their damage, they've done.
 
What forces you to buy from those evil rich people?

For some, their very lives depend on healthcare. But then you only care about the almighty dollar and not people.
 
For some, their very lives depend on healthcare. But then you only care about the almighty dollar and not people.

that's the typical rot from the left. the nonsense that they care about people and not money complete bs
 
Because it was spent. Because government is unable to live within its means. Because the rate of spending growth has shot through the roof in the last 20 years. Take your pick or all of the above. D is looking pretty accurate to me.

Tax cuts are NOT responsible, government spending IS. I keep hearing Cat saying it was because revenue dropped, well what the heck is wrong with government spending less money? Have we ever tried actually cutting spending or have we only slowed spending growth? Im going with option 2 on that question. We have never actually cut spending. We have only slowed spending growth.

How and why is this hard to understand?

There are two sides to a ledger. It is not possible, nor would it be fair, to balance the budget on the backs of those that didn't enjoy majority of tax cuts over the last 30 years. SS has responsible for our debt that senior have paid into all their lives so why should they sacrifice so the rich can continue to enjoy their tax cuts?
 
Insider trading is illegal. UNLESS you are in congress. You can do it there legally at this point in time.

Well the legislation has hit a snag as usual. Eric Cantor is blocking the STOCK Act which is a bill to stop congressmen from legally doing insider trading.


The STOCK Act, introduced by Reps. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) and Timothy Walz (D-Minn.) would ban members from insider trading, and has garnered almost 250 cosponsors in the House. Similar bills have been introduced in the Senate. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) has recently put the brakes on the legislation, saying he thought it was proceeding to quickly.

linkypoo...
 
If the poor faced taxes that would increase when they voted for big spending democrats that would do far more to reduce the deficit than the asswipe in chief's claim that raising taxes on those who pay too much will

Yeah because as we all know the GOP never spends or increases govt. oh wait, the GOP are big spenders and increase govt. Sounds like you are full of BS.
 
For some, their very lives depend on healthcare. But then you only care about the almighty dollar and not people.

You seem to believe you know what everyone else needs and their cost structure. You also seem to buy the belief that the govt. is going to offer you a low cost alternative to what you have right now. Nothing Obama has proposed addresses costs, only addresses access so until you address costs and define what drives those costs nothing Obama has offered lowers healthcare costs nor would a public option. Where are the doctors going to come from to provide for that increased access? Why has the MA healthcare costs gone up? Think about it and get back to me
 
GDP grew from 9.9 trillion to 14.4 trillion in 8 years of Bush, name for me any other modern day President that had a 4.5 trillion increase in GDP.
No, it did not.

You never stop lying, do you?
 
that's the typical rot from the left. the nonsense that they care about people and not money complete bs

I don't see the left trying to increase costs like the right is. You are the one with the elitist attitude. Most lawyers would better serve mankind on the bottom of the ocean.
 
What benefits the economy is a growing economy and job creation. Investment capital is designed to do both

True. And studies show taxes don't really hinder that. People buying is the major ingredient business needs to grow. If they have buyers, they will grow no matter what government does in the context of what tax increases we're speaking of. The small increases we speak of won't really matter at all.
 
Your going to have to convince the constituency of the government to be more responsible.
Good luck.

Like I said, I totally agree in principle, but the rest of the country doesn't want to accept their fair share of blame, for their damage, they've done.

Yep, reality bites...

Guess we'd better put on our crash helmets, strap ourselves in. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
 
Yeah because as we all know the GOP never spends or increases govt. oh wait, the GOP are big spenders and increase govt. Sounds like you are full of BS.
either way, if the poor and middle class were subjected to tax hikes everytime the government spent more the mass of voters would start punishing big spenders (no matter what party)
 
I don't see the left trying to increase costs like the right is. You are the one with the elitist attitude. Most lawyers would better serve mankind on the bottom of the ocean.

feel free to try to put me there if that is what you want. but that sort of stupid comment doesn't alleviate your other comment's stupidity. its the dems who are increasing costs on productive people
 
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