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State of the Union Address

Yeah, biggest lie so far: "Warren Buffett's secretary pays more taxes than Warren Buffett." Puke.
Second biggest: "I'm going to make sure that banks help people refinance their homes. They can save $3,000 a year through refinancing. Banks should be doing this to pay back the American people!!" Puke.

That's a paraphrase, by the way. Here's the full text: TRANSCRIPT State of the Union 2012: President Obama's Full Speech as Prepared for Delivery - ABC News

You know what he meant. And why do you want to puke about helping people refinance?
 
just wish it was as easy as all that...
 
Hes provided more funding for clean energy than any president in history during his first year!

True. But we also have fracking gone wild in the US.
 
Man, Obama is tearing up the place tonight!!!
Is he tearing up our freedoms as well? Some of us are a little concerned about that, Catawba. Can you keep us posted?
 
Man, Obama is tearing up the place tonight!!! And Boehner looks like he's trying to swallow a cat!

Anybody watching this???

Dammit! Mr. Speaker, open the Articles of Impeachment, and open them now on the Solyndra scandal. This crook must now be allowed to have another term to continue his corruption
 
You know what he meant. And why do you want to puke about helping people refinance?

Liblady, people have been arguing this point on DP since Gingrich released his effective tax rate. The President of the United States should not make that mistake. It is terribly misleading. (And it was no mistake.)

As to my second puke -- :rofl -- first, he had the perfect opportunity to put this in place when he bailed them out. To now try to guilt them into refinancing is ridiculous. PLUS those people with a pulse on the real estate market know that those who are having trouble refinancing run into one of two problems: #1, They are upside down and could never get their home appraised; #2, Their credit has been ruined by the downturn and they'd never qualify for a mortgage.

On the home front...way too little...way too late.
 
So question....

Did we enact things to expand our oil production 10 years ago, under Bush, and that's what is coming to fruition now?

OR

Is it actually possible to expand oil production currently and it come into play sooner than 10 years?

Because one or the other has to be the case if Obama's statements about Oil production is true.
 
Want to bet how the fact check comes out on this?

Buffett paid millions in taxes. what did his secretary pay? his effective rate is 17.5% or so. She would have to have earned income of well over 200,000 with no serious deductions to pay an effective rate that high

marginal rates mean nothing in this debate
 
Is he tearing up our freedoms as well? Some of us are a little concerned about that, Catawba. Can you keep us posted?


what freedoms are being torn up out of interest?
 
Is he tearing up our freedoms as well? Some of us are a little concerned about that, Catawba. Can you keep us posted?

what catawba is saying is that Obama-a guy who became a millionaire from winning public office and who is banked by millionaires like Goldman Suchs and Soros as well as the hollwood libertines-is bashing the rich who are wealthy despite the government.
 
True. But we also have fracking gone wild in the US.

Are you trying to say he's not perfect, and not doing everything you want him to do, when you want him to do it.? OK Which of the other candidates do you think would be doing better on the things that are important to you?
 
lol look at this guy mitch daniels, guy looks like a bond villian!
 
The rebuttal is kicking obamas ass already.
 
Is he tearing up our freedoms as well? Some of us are a little concerned about that, Catawba. Can you keep us posted?
What freedoms have you lost?
 
The rebuttal is kicking obamas ass already.


lol mate its all a lot of bollocks its just another chance for both parties to pretend like they care about the people and then go back to work tomorrow and do nothing!
 
OK, I'll go with his exact wording and it has to be rated completely false. Deal?

Nope. If that statement is not 100% correct, you pay. I know your little tricks. :rofl

Seriously, you and I both know that's not correct. Now, change the wording to what he said earlier in the speech, to (paraphrased) "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," is possibly correct. His second statement? A lie. And don't say it was a mistake -- since the text of his speech was released beforehand. It was written that way. And it was written that way on purpose.

So. If not 100% correct, you pay. Deal?

**It occurs to me they may not even rate it...since surely she hasn't released her income tax return.
 
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OB: "I have a great idea!"

OB: "Write me a bill and I'll (take credit for it) sign it!"
 
Good speech even though I'm fully aware absolutely nothing will get done again this year just like last year. Obama's absolutely right though about how American companies should bring jobs back here to America then they can get their tax cuts, if not then your not supporting America and should be taxed.
 
Are you trying to say he's not perfect, and not doing everything you want him to do, when you want him to do it.? OK Which of the other candidates do you think would be doing better on the things that are important to you?

Nader. Dennis Kucinich. Bernie Sanders. Rocky Anderson.

No. No one is perfect for me. No one could ever be perfect. I stated things that I liked, I'm not going to sit back and kiss his ring because he's not a righty. If he's wrong on something for me, I'll say it.
 
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