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State of the Union Address

Want to bet how the fact check comes out on this?

Do you understand investment capital? Where did that investment capital come from? How many times would you like to see your income taxed?

As for the speech, someone here please tell me what "Economic Equality" is and how the govt. gets people who don't want to work, won't work, abuse the system to have economic equality? Is that really the role of the govt. to generate equal outcome?

From what I have heard and I didn't watch the speech nor did I watch the rebuttal because I doubt my TV would withstand the shoe going through the screen due to the lies and distortions this speech was more red meat to liberals and yet more rhetoric lacking substance or focus on actual results. Why anyone continues to believe Obama is beyond comprehension.

Some of the speech fact checked

FACT CHECK: Obama's 2012 State Of The Union | Fox News
 
Bull****. It was an inflationary bubble, started by government. The crazy loans did not start until the bubble was well in place, as it was the bubble which enabled the added risk. Fannie and Freddie started the bubble, then kept it growing, eventually changing their own rules so that they could keep up with private money.

I think we've gone over this at length before. You can't draw conclusions from the small price increase between '98 and '00. There have been many such rises over the years. The huge escalation was driven by the massive increase subprime and Alt-A loans handed out primarily by private lenders and funded primarily outside of F&F.
 
The joy that I'm feeling right now and no doubt the rest of America is feeling after one of the greatest SOTU speeches in our history is absolutely mind blowing. I was moved, I literally felt like I was floating as obama challenged us and enlightened us about how we americans can do anything. With tears flowing and a face beaming with pride knowing that this is such a special time in history to be led by greatness...how lucky we are as we all won tonight together united in hope and change...
I'm not sure whether I should be chuckling at sarcasm or be moved to tears over this comment....
 
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I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry over this comment....

An overwhelming majority of Americans approved of the overall message in President Obama's State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, according to a CBS News poll of speech watchers.

According to the poll, which was conducted online by Knowledge Networks immediately after the president's address, 91 percent of those who watched the speech approved of the proposals Mr. Obama put forth during his remarks. Only nine percent disapproved.


Last year, 83 percent of viewers approved of Mr. Obama's State of the Union remarks.

Poll: High Marks for Obama's State of the Union Speech - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
 
I don't really care about what politicians say, because they never lie, am I right?

I've seen what he has done for the last three years and in my mind actions speak louder than words.

I probably would watch it if I knew it was his words and not some speech writers, and that he was speaking from the heart and not a tele-prompter.
 
I don't really care about what politicians say, because they never lie, am I right?

I've seen what he has done for the last three years and in my mind actions speak louder than words.

I probably would watch it if I knew it was his words and not some speech writers, and that he was speaking from the heart and not a tele-prompter.

This is why I never take the SOTU speech seriously no matter who is speaking. It's all smoke and mirrors and grabasstic happy bull****.

For how many decades have we been wanting to free ourselves from foreign oil?
 
Oh wow, a hyper partisan conservative thinks Obama's speech was bad. Color me suprised. :roll:

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Why don't you read the last part of my post before flapping your gums? You might learn something.
 
Don't overlook that he presided over the only 8 years in American history in which the median household income actually fell. Gotta wonder where all that money went...

But it's not all bad news. The median income of millionaires increased 400% during the same term.

Gosh I wonder if there is a connection.

Wow, you have no shame just outright lying do you?
 
Republicans ALWAYS **** up the country when they are in charge......

So do the Democrats. Clinton was in charge and signed Grahm-Bliley, which gutted the Glass-Steagal Act. That law caused the economic mess more than any other factor. Did Bush suck? Of course he did, but let us not forget the Democrats, who enabled Bush to suck, and for Obama to suck later on. If you are picking one side or another in this debate (Democratic or Republican), you are making a sucker's bet.
 
So do the Democrats. Clinton was in charge and signed Grahm-Bliley, which gutted the Glass-Steagal Act. That law caused the economic mess more than any other factor. Did Bush suck? Of course he did, but let us not forget the Democrats, who enabled Bush to suck, and for Obama to suck later on. If you are picking one side or another in this debate (Democratic or Republican), you are making a sucker's bet.

Yeah...Dems who historically have been the regulatory hawks have pandered to Wall Street and the financial sector for decades now. Relatively...they are still better than Republicans but they aren't the Dems of 30 or 40 years ago!
 
I don't really care about what politicians say, because they never lie, am I right?

I've seen what he has done for the last three years and in my mind actions speak louder than words.

I probably would watch it if I knew it was his words and not some speech writers, and that he was speaking from the heart and not a tele-prompter.

Then watch the rebuttal speech by Mr. Daniels. He is just about the only politician that does NOT employ, used or otherwise gets advice from speech writers. Every word he speaks, as in his rebuttal speech, is 100% his. He writes his own speeches......all of them.
 
Far too many here buy rhetoric and ignore the results because it is easy to believe what you are told instead of doing research to verify what you are told. Notice the Obama results and stop buying the rhetoric.

Many here will attack the messenger and ignore the content. That is partially what is wrong with this country today, ignoring substance and buying rhetoric.

Bill O'Reilly: 'No Spin' State of the Union - Talking Points - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News
 
Far too many here buy rhetoric and ignore the results because it is easy to believe what you are told instead of doing research to verify what you are told. Notice the Obama results and stop buying the rhetoric.

Many here will attack the messenger and ignore the content. That is partially what is wrong with this country today, ignoring substance and buying rhetoric.

Bill O'Reilly: 'No Spin' State of the Union - Talking Points - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News

Most of us are perfectly well aware that politicians present facts in a manner that's most flattering to their own argument, even it shades the truth from time to time. They all do it, all the time.
 
Far too many here buy rhetoric and ignore the results because it is easy to believe what you are told instead of doing research to verify what you are told. Notice the Obama results and stop buying the rhetoric.

Many here will attack the messenger and ignore the content. That is partially what is wrong with this country today, ignoring substance and buying rhetoric.

Bill O'Reilly: 'No Spin' State of the Union - Talking Points - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News

Yes, the Dems are drinking the Kool-Aid, but so are you. No spin? HA!!. There is just as much spin in Bill O'Reilly as there is in Obama, which gives me an idea. Bill O'Reilly for President. He can be just as irrelevant as Obama.
 
More bull****, because I watched it. It wasn't nearly as good as some of his other speeches, disagreement aside. He also left out important facts.

FACT CHECK: Obama's 2012 State Of The Union | Fox News

wow. An outlet that calls itself a news media calling Obama's State of the Union address, "rhetoric."

They don't even bother to conceal their bias anymore, huh? No wonder righties love Fox News like they do. It feeds them what they want to hear.
 
Yeah...Dems who historically have been the regulatory hawks have pandered to Wall Street and the financial sector for decades now. Relatively...they are still better than Republicans but they aren't the Dems of 30 or 40 years ago!

Wall Street and the very big banks and corporations LOVE the liberal Democrats and their propensity to increase laws and regulations. Those Democrat action make extreme profits for them.

The more intrusive laws and regulations the less competition and therefore, more profits for the really big institutions. That's why you see the big money from the really big companies and Wall Street going to the Democrats. Yes, I know it is counter intuitive, but it is never the less true.

The Republicans are for business. All the businesses starting with the Mom and Pop to the big corporations. They, the Republicans, like the idea of a free market where competition decides which companies enter a market and which companies will succeed......not Washington, D. C. politicians and/or bureaucrats.
 
Yes, the Dems are drinking the Kool-Aid, but so are you. No spin? HA!!. There is just as much spin in Bill O'Reilly as there is in Obama, which gives me an idea. Bill O'Reilly for President. He can be just as irrelevant as Obama.

"No Spin" for O'Reilly is when one of his guests calls Obama something like a serial killer and pedophile and O'Reilly is like "wait a minute...now we don't know he's a seriel killer or pedophile, there's not proof on that yet..." like shooting down ridiculous **** improves his "no spin" credentials.
 
Most of us are perfectly well aware that politicians present facts in a manner that's most flattering to their own argument, even it shades the truth from time to time. They all do it, all the time.

What facts did Obama present? Facts are results and he continues to run from his results.
 
wow. An outlet that calls itself a news media calling Obama's State of the Union address, "rhetoric."

They don't even bother to conceal their bias anymore, huh? No wonder righties love Fox News like they do. It feeds them what they want to hear.

Thank God for the unbiased news of MSNBC/NBC, ABC and CNN.
 
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