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Big Win for the 4th Amendment

I think they get around it because reasonable suspicion can be the number of people known to be drunk driving on certain days. You, I, or others may not think it qualifies as "reasonable" but others might, and more importantly, a court might.

No. I mean, lots of people commit gun crimes. We have some of the highest gun crime rates of the industrialized world. That doesn't mean that you can search gun owners on suspicion of crime.
 
You can't be searched IMO becuase it's reasonable to think the other guy has been drinking.

I dont disagree with you. However, laws are left with these vague loopholes. Saying reasonable when it gets passed makes people feel good and not violated. Then they can interpret reasonable however they want to and change they law to suit their needs. And when someone has something to say about it they simply revert to "reasonable". Since reasonable isn't stated we are screwed.
 
I dont disagree with you. However, laws are left with these vague loopholes. Saying reasonable when it gets passed makes people feel good and not violated. Then they can interpret reasonable however they want to and change they law to suit their needs. And when someone has something to say about it they simply revert to "reasonable". Since reasonable isn't stated we are screwed.

I think they use the fact that it's public road to get away with it. But it's not like we have a choice, there's not really sufficient private road to get from A to B. And we pay for that road too!
 
No. I mean, lots of people commit gun crimes. We have some of the highest gun crime rates of the industrialized world. That doesn't mean that you can search gun owners on suspicion of crime.

Whats stopping them? The word reasonable. If a judge rules that gun crimes constitutes that as reasonable, we are screwed. These laws are a matter of opinion.
 
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