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Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

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Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

THat is a most moronic comment. when we propose everyone paying the same flat rate, people like you have a hissy fit. -even though it would be progressive in that the rich would pay far more

Like I said -- envy. No wonder your avatar is green.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Grow up would you?


j-mac

what is funny is that the usual 5-6 posters who constantly bash the rich and whine for higher taxes claim that their motivation is "for the good of society" yet we get stuff like

1) "I feel really bad for those poor rich"

2) "maybe they will have to give up buying a second yacht

3) and of course the famous "the rich should drop to their knees and beg to be able to keep some of what they have"

pretty hard to argue that economic arguments are what motivates that sort of stuff
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Grow up would you?


j-mac

grown ups tend not to feel a need to have others pay for what they want
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

grown ups tend not to feel a need to have others pay for what they want


I know that I have earned everything I have...I am not rich, and have been through BK, but I have a house, good job, great family, and good friends....So I guess I am rich....


j-mac
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I assume you are talking about returning these rates across the board right? But let's not make the inane argument that the 90s with all of its bubbles is anything close to where we are now in terms of economy. But, ALL rates would rise...the bottom would go from 10% to 15%...that's a 50% increase. How could you be so cruel....?


j-mac

All the rates will have to be returned to 1990 levels if we are ever to address our debt.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

All the rates will have to be returned to 1990 levels if we are ever to address our debt.


But, but....I thought you stood up for the middle class and poor....Heck, I am middle class, and am here to tell ya, I don't have an extra penny.

j-mac
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Let me guess-you don't believe in doing away all the tax breaks for everyone else.

See my post above. All tax rates need to increase to 1990 levels. Most of the big cuts went to those at the top, so it will have little effect on the middle class.

right now the top 5% pay more of the income tax than the rest of the country. you want to increase that gap

Increasing the ALL tax rates to 1990 levels will have very little effect on 99% of the country.

and you all never can figure out that even if you taxed the rich 100% at any income over 300K that won't get rid of the deficit. and the government has never made serious spending cuts after tax hikes. when RWR and GHWB increased taxes the dems refused to cut spending

Did you miss the 1990's??? In the 1990's when both sides came together to both increase taxes and cut spending was the only time in the last 30 years we have ever significantly reduced the deficit.

When we decide to get serious about deficit reduction, the same thing will be required. All the polls show a majority of Americans understand this and that will be reflected in their choice in November.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

All the rates will have to be returned to 1990 levels if we are ever to address our debt.

I don't mind increasing taxes to that end. But, if history repeats itself, that's not what will happen. Congress will simply spend more money. My perfect world would have every single filer have a dog in the fight -- pay something!
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

See my post above. All tax rates need to increase to 1990 levels. Most of the big cuts went to those at the top, so it will have little effect on the middle class.


I just showed you where that was not true...Why would you post it again?

Increasing the ALL tax rates to 1990 levels will have very little effect on 99% of the country.

You personally know 99% of the country? That's amazing.

Did you miss the 1990's??? In the 1990's when both sides came together to both increase taxes and cut spending was the only time in the last 30 years we have ever significantly reduced the deficit.

When we decide to get serious about deficit reduction, the same thing will be required. All the polls show a majority of Americans understand this and that will be reflected in their choice in November.

Will you vote republican in November then?


j-mac
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

But, but....I thought you stood up for the middle class and poor....Heck, I am middle class, and am here to tell ya, I don't have an extra penny.

j-mac

The poor didn't pay income taxes in the 1990s' and the bulk of the individual tax cuts when to those at the top.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I don't mind increasing taxes to that end. But, if history repeats itself, that's not what will happen. Congress will simply spend more money. My perfect world would have every single filer have a dog in the fight -- pay something!

See the 1990's.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I just showed you where that was not true...Why would you post it again?



You personally know 99% of the country? That's amazing.



Will you vote republican in November then?


j-mac

The Democrats are the only ones now proposing to do exactly what we did in the 90's to reduce the deficit significantly, both cut spending and increase taxes.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

The poor didn't pay income taxes in the 1990s' and the bulk of the individual tax cuts when to those at the top.

the first part of your comment explains the second
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

The Democrats are the only ones now proposing to do exactly what we did in the 90's to reduce the deficit significantly, both cut spending and increase taxes.

wrong, the dems refused to just cut spending. They claimed that cutting spending is a sacrifice for everyone but the rich so to balance that sacrifice, the rich-and ONLY the rich should have to pay more taxes

the dems admitted that government spending doesn't really benefit the rich because cutting spending wouldn't be a sacrifice for them. EVERYONE ELSE will sacrifice when government spending is cut.

Very telling comment from Obama when he said that to balance the budget the rich will sacrifice by paying more taxes while EVERYONE ELSE will sacrifice by getting less government goodies
 
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the first part of your comment explains the second

50% of the country now averages $15,800 income thanks to supply side economics, but you think they are not suffering enough?

The rich already own almost all of the country's wealth. is there no end to the greed of the top 1%???


Top 1 Percent of Americans Reaped Two-Thirds of Income Gains in Last Economic Expansion
Income Concentration in 2007 Was at Highest Level Since 1928, New Analysis Shows
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

50% of the country now averages $15,800 income thanks to supply side economics, but you think they are not suffering enough?

The rich already own almost all of the country's wealth. is there no end to the greed of the top 1%???


Top 1 Percent of Americans Reaped Two-Thirds of Income Gains in Last Economic Expansion
Income Concentration in 2007 Was at Highest Level Since 1928, New Analysis Shows


wow that is stupid. supply side economics is not at fault for lots of people having no marketable skills

its not the rich's fault that people do drugs, drop out of school or start breeding like rabbits before they have a job or an education



and the only greed I see is your stereotyping a few million people and claiming that anyone who is successful and/or opposes paying more taxes to keep parasitic pimps in government and the envious minions who vote for them happy is "greedy"
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

wrong, the dems refused to just cut spending.

Wrong, the Dems are the only ones to propose BOTH spending cuts and increasing taxes. The Republicans walked away from $3 in spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

All the rates will have to be returned to 1990 levels if we are ever to address our debt.

I apparently missed a lot of this conversation since I have no idea how we got on this subject. However, taxes have virtually nothing to do with the current debt. If you want to address the debt you must cut spending. And I don't mean the meaningless crap which has been proposed by everyone on capital hill to date. We're talking a massive slash of at least 50%.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

wow that is stupid. supply side economics is not at fault for lots of people having no marketable skills

its not the rich's fault that people do drugs, drop out of school or start breeding like rabbits before they have a job or an education


You think half the country has no marketable skills, do drugs, and dropped out of school???

Let's see your proof of that statement you pulled out of your ass?



and the only greed I see is your stereotyping a few million people and claiming that anyone who is successful and/or opposes paying more taxes to keep parasitic pimps in government and the envious minions who vote for them happy is "greedy"

I certainly do not think that. I think those that suffer from overwhelming greed are only those few of the rich that think the poor should suffer more so they can continue enjoying a 5% lower tax rate, regardless of the fact this cannot support our consumer economy.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Wrong, the Dems are the only ones to propose BOTH spending cuts and increasing taxes. The Republicans walked away from $3 in spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases.

because the dems wanted to increase taxes

no one should pay higher taxes until the government can demonstrate MASSIVE cuts

and if you really want tax cuts they should be imposed on those who don't pay enough

the rich are the ONLY group that pay MORE OF THE INCOME TAX burden than their share of the INCOME. they are overtaxed
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

You think half the country has no marketable skills, do drugs, and dropped out of school???

Let's see your proof of that statement you pulled out of your ass?





I certainly do not think that. I think those that suffer from overwhelming greed are only those few of the rich that think the poor should suffer more so they can continue enjoying a 5% lower tax rate, regardless of the fact this cannot support our consumer economy.

we don't have a duty to keep paying more and more taxes so your dem lords can buy the votes of those who want more stuff paid for by others

we pay our fair share and much more than that. its time all of those who want a government as big as it is now to start paying more for what they want
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I apparently missed a lot of this conversation since I have no idea how we got on this subject. However, taxes have virtually nothing to do with the current debt. If you want to address the debt you must cut spending. And I don't mean the meaningless crap which has been proposed by everyone on capital hill to date. We're talking a massive slash of at least 50%.

Not possible, that is why the Republicans have not once in the last 30 years reduced the deficit spending significantly.

The only time that has been done is when both sides came together in the 90s to both cut spending and increase taxes.
 
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Catawba said:
The only time that has been done is when both sides came together in the 90s to both cut spending and increase taxes.

You're fooling yourself if you think spending has ever been significantly decreased. Heck, it doesn't even maintain its present level!
 
this thread has sort of gone of track but what we have seen is Catawba thinks that if you make a lot of money you have to support higher taxes on yourself or you are greedy or you want to hurt those who aren't smart enough, talented enough or "lucky" enough to do well

And apparently that is why Catawba and others like him piss and moan about Romney. Romney is evil for doing so well and not calling for 40-50-60-70 percent tax rates on investment income
 
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