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State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

Risky Thicket said:
He may not have had an alcohol problem. He does now.
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He has a problem because his bad decision. To blame it on alcohol would simply be an excuse. He didnt abuse a substance (its really comical to see the number of people suddenly equating normal consumption of alcohol to be 'abuse')...he drank...just like many people do, in a normal and safe manner. Alcohol consumption wasnt his promlem. Substance abuse wasnt his problem. Making the conscious decision to drink even a drop knowing he would be driving was and is his problem, and one that he has to face legally.
 
VanceMack said:
Sure...post 85 and 92. You are not only a mindless partisan hack (something we already knew) but are also a liar.
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No, try again. Those are the posts where I exposed you as the liar that you are. :lol:
 
AdamT said:
No, try again. Those are the posts where I exposed you as the liar that you are. :lol:
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Like I said...you are a mindless partisan hack AND a blatant liar. I knew the first part...second...well...good to know as well.
 
VanceMack said:
Like I said...you are a mindless partisan hack AND a blatant liar. I knew the first part...second...well...good to know as well.
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Seriously, if you want to spew brain-dead ad hominem nonsense, there is a place to do that and this isn't it. But I suppose if that was actually enforced you would only be allowed to post in the Basement. :roll:
 
You blatantly lied. Your own words say more about you than anything I could ever say. You are a liar. Not worthy of discussion.
 
VanceMack said:
You blatantly lied. Your own words say more about you than anything I could ever say. You are a liar. Not worthy of discussion.
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ZZZZzzzz. I didn't lie. Again, take it to the basement if you want to turn this into a pissing match.
 
AdamT said:
ZZZZzzzz. I didn't lie. Again, take it to the basement if you want to turn this into a pissing match.
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You absolutely did lie...twice. Not a pissing match at all...it's a basic statement o fact. You lied. You are a liar. I can deal with mindless partisan hacks. I can deal with assholes. I don't abide liars.
 
VanceMack said:
You absolutely did lie...twice. Not a pissing match at all...it's a basic statement o fact. You lied. You are a liar. I can deal with mindless partisan hacks. I can deal with assholes. I don't abide liars.
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*SIGH*

What I said was that you were making excuses for drunk driving, which was absolutely TRUE as I demonstrated by posting a direct quote of you saying that driving just a liiiitle over the legal limit was no big deal. So take your little liar-liar-pants-on-fire juvenile bull**** somewhere where people don't know you and might give some credence to what you say.
 
That's an outright and blatant lie. I did not at any time excuse or justify drunk driving and in every instance have stated he will and should face the legal implications (including in the post you cited). You are a liar.
 
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VanceMack said:
That's an outright and blatant lie. I did not at any time excuse or justify drunk driving and in every instance have stated he will and should face the legal implications. You are a liar.
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You said what you said, and I quoted it. Own it. Deal with it. Live with it. And stop ****ing crying.

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AdamT said:
You said what you said, and I quoted it. Own it. Deal with it. Live with it. And stop ****ing crying.

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No one is crying. Im pointing out the fact that you are a liar. You posted a portion of a post. You didn't post the very next sentence. The first sentence stated having a BAC .02 over the legal limit is not a big deal. The very next sentence stated DRIVING with a BAC .02 over IS. People are .02 over the legal limit all the time. That's not considered 'abuse' now is it?
You know it. You are a liar. Pretty pathetic.
 
VanceMack said:
No one is crying. Im pointing out the fact that you are a liar. You posted a portion of a post. You didn't post the very next sentence. The first sentence stated having a BAC .02 over the legal limit is not a big deal. The very next sentence stated DRIVING with a BAC .02 over IS. People are .02 over the legal limit all the time. That's not considered 'abuse' now is it?
You know it. You are a liar. Pretty pathetic.
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As I explained, there is no legal limit BUT FOR DUI laws. Stop whining -- it's pathetic.
 
VanceMack said:
He has a problem because his bad decision. To blame it on alcohol would simply be an excuse. He didnt abuse a substance (its really comical to see the number of people suddenly equating normal consumption of alcohol to be 'abuse')...he drank...just like many people do, in a normal and safe manner. Alcohol consumption wasnt his promlem. Substance abuse wasnt his problem. Making the conscious decision to drink even a drop knowing he would be driving was and is his problem, and one that he has to face legally.
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The court system and most certainly his insurance company will treat Smith's DUI as an alcohol abuse issue. And it will go on his driving record as such and his car insurance premiums will certainly reflect it. These things and other things will take place as a result of alcohol abuse and will be noted as such. "Poor judgement" is assumed to occur anytime someone has had too much to drink and thus poor judgement is not the cause of alcohol abuse, but rather the result of it.

Most all of us have done there and been that.
 
j-mac said:
Well, first off, the difference between a DUI, and a DWI is pretty significant. Second, it is just a little more than disingenuous to link a DUI citation, as the same as advocating drug testing for welfare recipients.

Can you tell us exactly what his DUI level was? Can you point to a history of drinking that leads you to claim that this man has a 'problem' with alcohol? Like say Teddy Kennedy? Or is this you just making a mountain out of a mole hill because of your own drinking problems?

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Not making a mountain out of a molehill at all. I am not a hypocrite. I accept responsibility for my own actions, and I do not demand things of others while practicing just the opposite. The defense of this asshole astounds me, but I am not surprised at all. In this case, it's not substance abuse because it is only alcohol (which happens to be a drug), and in the case of Larry Craig, you can have a dick in your mouth and not be gay. LOL. Oh, and Teddy Kennedy? He should have gone to prison.
 
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AdamT said:
As I explained, there is no legal limit BUT FOR DUI laws. Stop whining -- it's pathetic.
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I get it...you are a liar...no big deal. Its always good to know who and what you are dealing with. You are a liar. Period.
 
VanceMack said:
I get it...you are a liar...no big deal. Its always good to know who and what you are dealing with. You are a liar. Period.
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Are you 10 years old? Seriously? Man up.
 
Risky Thicket said:
The court system and most certainly his insurance company will treat Smith's DUI as an alcohol abuse issue. And it will go on his driving record as such and his car insurance premiums will certainly reflect it. These things and other things will take place as a result of alcohol abuse and will be noted as such. "Poor judgement" is assumed to occur anytime someone has had too much to drink and thus poor judgement is not the cause of alcohol abuse, but rather the result of it.

Most all of us have done there and been that.
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So you are on board too...right? having a blood alcohol level of .09 means you have a substance abuse problem, right?

Horsehit. DRIVING while having a BAC of .09 is a legal issue. It does not a 'substance abuse' issue make.
 
j-mac said:
Well, Dan said himself that Smith had a problem because he got a DUI, and just "knew" that because he himself got a DWI which are two different things, but to use Dan's own reasoning if Smith has a problem, for a DUI then Dan has one surely for his own DWI, no?


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The State claims a problem with the first charge, with no proof of history or evidence to demonstrate problem. I don't know if this representative has a real problem or not, it can go either way. But they should be held to the full extent of the law the same as anyone else. Maybe then they'll see the absurdity of our DUI laws.
 
AdamT said:
I'm think eight years old.
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And yet...you are still a liar. You lie. You are an intentionally dishonest POS. You are a liar.
 
VanceMack said:
And yet...you are still a liar. You lie. You are an intentionally dishonest POS. You are a liar.
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No, I'm not, but you are an ignorant punk. Get over it.
 
AdamT said:
No, I'm not, but you are an ignorant punk. Get over it.
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Yes...in fact you are and your own words and actions prove it. You lied. You are a dishonest POS. You are a liar.
 
VanceMack said:
Yes...in fact you are and your own words and actions prove it. You lied. You are a dishonest POS. You are a liar.
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No, I just quoted what you wrote. If your own words make you look like a lying doucherocket it's not my fault. Now go ask someone to change your Pampers, your ass reeks.
 
Come on, you two. Please take your fight somewhere else, and stop derailing my thread.
 
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