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BBC News - Hackers plan space satellites to combat censorship

Computer hackers plan to take the internet beyond the reach of censors be putting their own communication satellites into orbit. The scheme was outlined at the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin. The project's organisers said the Hackerspace Global Grid will also involve developing a grid of ground stations to track and communicate with the satellites.

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He cited the proposed Stop Online Piracy Act (Sopa) in the United States as an example of the kind of threat facing online freedom. If passed, the act would allow for some sites to be blocked on copyright grounds.

Whereas past space missions have almost all been the preserve of national agencies and large companies, amateur enthusiasts have in recent years sent a few payloads into orbit.

These devices have mostly been sent up using balloons and are tricky to pinpoint precisely from the ground.


lol, this is pretty awesome. I don't know if it's truly possible or not, but I wish them all the best. SOPA is bad news.
 
Sounds pretty awesome but I think they are being a bit over ambitious. Im doubtful they could raise enough funds to have a satellite built and put into orbit.
 
Sounds pretty awesome but I think they are being a bit over ambitious. Im doubtful they could raise enough funds to have a satellite built and put into orbit.

A guy in NZ (IIRC) built a fully functional cruise missile for $5k, with run of the mill parts (again IIRC).

Of course, this is a bit more ambitious but not entirely impossible.
 
A guy in NZ (IIRC) built a fully functional cruise missile for $5k, with run of the mill parts (again IIRC).

Of course, this is a bit more ambitious but not entirely impossible.

And our military pays about $830,000 for each cruise missile that is delivered to them. People bitch about 600 dollar hammers, but this kind of ripoff is totally unamerican.
 
There's always going to be censorship in some form it depends on far it goes before people feel it's affecting them negatively. Political Correctness can rise to an oppressive form of censoring left unchallenged. A big part of the Flower Power, Peace, Love, Psychedelic Hippy movement of the 60's & 70's was not just against the Vietnam War but the conventional thinking of their parents generation. The War Protests, Civil Rights and Women's Lib all happening at the same time.
 
I wouldn't under-estimate what the hacker community can do. Many of the members well-educated and well-paid engineering and systems professionals who could well afford to donate their time, talent and $$s to a cause they feel is worthwhile.
 
I wouldn't under-estimate what the hacker community can do. Many of the members well-educated and well-paid engineering and systems professionals who could well afford to donate their time, talent and $$s to a cause they feel is worthwhile.

Especially the hacker Kevin Mitnick aka Eric Weiss, Houdini's real name. The FBI thought he was so dangerous that he could launch an ICBM nuke by whistling in a phone. They had to use a rival hacker to bait and lure Mitnick into cracking his network so they could trace him. Before that he made fools of them peeping into top secret and sensitive government websites at will.
 
BBC News - Hackers plan space satellites to combat censorship




lol, this is pretty awesome. I don't know if it's truly possible or not, but I wish them all the best. SOPA is bad news.

For the love of God this is very nobel but they are setting themselves up for huge disapointment. #1 they are not going to acquire the funds, much less keep the funds rolling in to maintain an orbiting satellite. #2 of course government isn't going to sit back and let HACKERS interrupt, defy, and bypass official communication systems on this planet, and #3 when is someone going to admit that online piracy really is a huge problem we're facing........this law which i've followed for some time, wants to stop mainly Torrent websites where it's common for MILLIONS of people to download entire albums, movies, software, etc., all stolen.

what exactly are these hackers fighting to preserve? theft?
 
Would anyone else feel apprehensive about using an ISP provided by a hacker group?
 
Would anyone else feel apprehensive about using an ISP provided by a hacker group?

Or the alternative. AT & T, Verizon, and the others on the gov't payroll. Give us the tap, the recording, the link, connection, or whatever we want of we'll give you regulatory trouble. Pirate Act, er I mean Patriot Act. Not to worry baby, just get your very own personalized and adjustable MAC card. Nothin' like eproms.
 
It's not censorship to stop piracy. Movies, music and video games are made by people who need to be paid and greedy pirates are preventing that.
 
It's not censorship to stop piracy. Movies, music and video games are made by people who need to be paid and greedy pirates are preventing that.

True, hackers are no different than those who pirate software etc

and the hackers who steal money from bank accounts are crash websites need to be burned at the stake
 
I'm completely lost - I connect 'hacker' with high tech criminals who steal your identity and bank account information and schmooze around on people's social security information - whic hthe government requires you to have but does nothing to protect or repair when it's robbed.

So here in this article hackers are now fighting for their rights and looking out ofr hte little people.

WTF?

And - no less - they're determiend ot give space "back to the people" - since when was it ever lost?

This makes NO sense.
 
True, hackers are no different than those who pirate software etc

and the hackers who steal money from bank accounts are crash websites need to be burned at the stake
Too merciful, some hackers love imposing a "living death" on people they disagree with, ruining their credit, reputation, privacy, etc. Hacking should be a capital offense and all cruel and unnusual punishment prohibitions should be suspended. I hate hackers, I don't tend to hate as a rule but actually hate hackers.
 
I'm completely lost - I connect 'hacker' with high tech criminals who steal your identity and bank account information and schmooze around on people's social security information - whic hthe government requires you to have but does nothing to protect or repair when it's robbed.

So here in this article hackers are now fighting for their rights and looking out ofr hte little people.

WTF?

And - no less - they're determiend ot give space "back to the people" - since when was it ever lost?

This makes NO sense.
Hacking is a general purpose term, it can be anything from an individual computer breach , to a minor software change to a widespread network attack. The common factor is not having the permissions to enter the systems and causing some form of damage. The problem is the hackers have technical knowledge but not a whole lot of social skills so they tend to be the rebel without a clue types.
 
Sounds pretty awesome but I think they are being a bit over ambitious. Im doubtful they could raise enough funds to have a satellite built and put into orbit.

That's right up George Soros's alley!
 
I'm completely lost - I connect 'hacker' with high tech criminals who steal your identity and bank account information and schmooze around on people's social security information - whic hthe government requires you to have but does nothing to protect or repair when it's robbed.

So here in this article hackers are now fighting for their rights and looking out ofr hte little people.

WTF?

And - no less - they're determiend ot give space "back to the people" - since when was it ever lost?

This makes NO sense.

Hacking is a general purpose term, it can be anything from an individual computer breach , to a minor software change to a widespread network attack. The common factor is not having the permissions to enter the systems and causing some form of damage. The problem is the hackers have technical knowledge but not a whole lot of social skills so they tend to be the rebel without a clue types.

Actually, most hackers are computer professionals who know a lot more about technology than, well... everybody else. Most aren't malicious, just enamored of technology and the possibilities it presents. Most aren't stealing anything, or doing any kind of damage. They're just having fun within their chosen field, no different than a tennis star playing a few games just for fun. Equating people who disseminate copyrighted material with hackers is a misnomer. The images of hackers on TV or in the movies aren't particularly true either. A hacker is no different from a magician. Yes, he knows how to pick a lock and could use that skill to steal, but instead he's just entertaining people.

To sum up, the vast vast majority of hackers aren't thieves or vandals. They're just experts in their chosen field.
 
Actually, most hackers are computer professionals who know a lot more about technology than, well... everybody else.
There are some professionals that hack, most of them are bored kids and college undergrads. I've known quite of few of the latter and very few of the former.
Most aren't malicious, just enamored of technology and the possibilities it presents.
There is never an excuse to compromise someone else's computer, I don't care what the intent is.
Most aren't stealing anything, or doing any kind of damage. They're just having fun within their chosen field, no different than a tennis star playing a few games just for fun.
First off, violating another person's CPU or their security is a federal crime, secondly even with benign intent if someone doesn't know what they are doing or is "experimenting" and ****s up a setting in the Boot sector or registry entry they can do permanent damage to someone else's property even accidentally.
Equating people who disseminate copyrighted material with hackers is a misnomer.
You're correct, but they both are federal crimes.
The images of hackers on TV or in the movies aren't particularly true either. A hacker is no different from a magician. Yes, he knows how to pick a lock and could use that skill to steal, but instead he's just entertaining people.
Stealing credit card numbers and using them to "give" money to pet projects, crashing U.S. security, hacking people's game systems and taking information, etc. are not entertaining, it is data theft, some of it is I.D. theft which is one of the worst crimes perpetrated in the U.S. in terms of damage. That is not entertainment it is malicious criminal activity.
To sum up, the vast vast majority of hackers aren't thieves or vandals. They're just experts in their chosen field.
They are all criminals and should be punished harshly.
 
A guy in NZ (IIRC) built a fully functional cruise missile for $5k, with run of the mill parts (again IIRC).

Of course, this is a bit more ambitious but not entirely impossible.

I doubt his "cruise missile" is anywhere near as functional as an actual cruise missile.
 
I doubt his "cruise missile" is anywhere near as functional as an actual cruise missile.

I figured they just adopted a phallic American euphanism there - as usually - failing to hit the mark.
 
It's not censorship to stop piracy.

Um... the act of stopping piracy isn't in of itself, but the MEANS - which includes SOPA, and is the scope of this discussion, CAN very well be. A means doesn't just stop being censorship, or stop being prone to being abused for censorship just because it may be a noble goal.
 
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