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Muslim sect claims Nigeria church attacks; 25 dead

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PeteEU said:
LOL the arrogance... these are from the Bible.

















And that is just some of them...

There is even one about killing a whole town if one worships another god... or killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night.. But the best one is
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But the difference is that Christians are not following the OT whereas far too many Muslims are literally following the words in the Koran. If Christians literally followed the OT, Muslims would be reduced to dust. You should know that.
 
Wiseone said:
That is my opinion is exactly what Islam could use, and yes the issue is that many Muslims take from their Koran things that Christians ignore in their holy book. Like I said, since both books contain violence to non-believers I believe its more of a cultural problem than a religious one, and unfortunately it took Christianity centuries to drag itself out of the pits of religious ignorance and extremism. And even then Christian nations and people still committed horrible atrocities against one another and to each other, the Holocaust is still recent history and the Soviet Union only fell apart 20 years ago.
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The catch is that most Muslims believe the Koran is perfect and, as well, there is unlikely to be another prophet in Islam like Jesus Christ, who inspired people around the world with his teachings. Islam has to be enforced. Muhammed was cunning but not terribly philosophical, insightful or spiritual. He was of his age. whereas the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Golden Rule, applying to both the rich and the poor, is timeless.
 
PeteEU said:
LOL the arrogance... these are from the Bible.

















And that is just some of them...

There is even one about killing a whole town if one worships another god... or killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night.. But the best one is
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ROFLMAO!

You really don't have any idea do you? You are just another anti-Christian. Maybe even one of these fools, a muslim.
 
Only you guys would use 25 dead in a terrorist attack to bitch about liberals or a religion you don't like. Good job.
 
Wiseone said:
True, Christians as a whole are less violate than Muslims, but clearly since violence against your fellow man and non-believers are part of both holy books that must not be the issue. There must be other factors in play for why Islam sees these kinds of radicals in a greater degree than Christianity, I believe the reason why has more to do with other aspects of culture, society, and government than their actual religion.
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As already explained by others, Christians have modified some of the early zany teachings. Teachings that produced such as the Inquisitions.

Muslims not. So when do the Muslims finally enlighten themselves ?

I found your post hugely naive, btw.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
As already explained by others, Christians have modified some of the early zany teachings. Teachings that produced such as the Inquisitions.

Muslims not. So when do the Muslims finally enlighten themselves ?

I found your post hugely naive, btw.
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I said I agreed that Islam needed a Reformation movement, if you are literally asking when Muslims will do this, you're clearly asking the wrong person. And lastly, ok you think its naive, why? I'd appreciate an explanation
 
Wiseone said:
I said I agreed that Islam needed a Reformation movement, if you are literally asking when Muslims will do this, you're clearly asking the wrong person. And lastly, ok you think its naive, why? I'd appreciate an explanation
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The issue is not what you can find buried in a book, written 1000 years ago, if I do not recognize it as valid, much less act on it.

Muslims kill and cite their teachings as a basis for it. At least 10% of Muslims feel this is valid. Another 40% don't express condemnation of the 10%. That is many times more than enough for the radicalism to be sustained within the mainstream foundations.
 
Grant said:
You mean that all Muslims are not terrorists???

Where have I heard that before?

Perhaps its time we dropped this "not al Muslims are terrorists" mantra and focused more on those who are, or who might be.
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Are we might, just maybe, worry about terrorists and not give a **** what religion they are.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
The issue is not what you can find buried in a book, written 1000 years ago, if I do not recognize it as valid, much less act on it.

Muslims kill and cite their teachings as a basis for it. At least 10% of Muslims feel this is valid. Another 40% don't express condemnation of the 10%. That is many times more than enough for the radicalism to be sustained within the mainstream foundations.
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I think I see the issue, yes the radicals cite their holy book as their reason behind their actions, but what I'm driving at is WHY they choose to read it the way they do as opposed to the way Christians or Jews read the Old and New Testament, where they ignore the violent material, many Muslims do not or don't have a problem with it, thats the why I'm driving at. And I think the reason they do has more to do with their culture and society and history than their religion, a person of any religion can choose to radically interpret it but why do they?
 
Wiseone said:
I think I see the issue, yes the radicals cite their holy book as their reason behind their actions, but what I'm driving at is WHY they choose to read it the way they do as opposed to the way Christians or Jews read the Old and New Testament, where they ignore the violent material, many Muslims do not or don't have a problem with it, thats the why I'm driving at. And I think the reason they do has more to do with their culture and society and history than their religion, a person of any religion can choose to radically interpret it but why do they?
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Perhaps it's a matter of history and progression. It was only a few hundred years ago when Christians interpreted the Bible in a way which we would consider extreme today (witch-burnings, etc.) Culture and history definitely play a role.
 
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SgtRock said:
Members of the religion of peace strike again. Like last year muslims bombed churches in Nigera. Christians are under attack in Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, and all over Afrika.

Pray for the victims and their families. Merry Christmas.

Muslim sect claims Nigeria church attacks; 25 dead - Yahoo! News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/w...-through-catholic-church-in-nigeria.html?_r=2
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Hey, it's Africa anything goes. remember rwanda the hutsi and the tutsi's? they also still burn ''witches'' in Africa. So your grasping at straws here trying to equate sub saharan africans with muslims from other parts of the world. Your just looking for any oppurtunity to bash Islam and Muslims, i read many of your posts, and i think you belong at STORMFRONT, everyone knows your sthick already, you are a very predictable simple minded hateful man, who has most likely failed in life, so you decided to vent out your anger on muslims.
 
Redress said:
Are we might, just maybe, worry about terrorists and not give a **** what religion they are.
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Except that the common denominator is not that they all play "terrorism for tots" or eat "Cheerios for Terrorists". Whether Nigerian, Indonesian, Egyption, Saudi, Pakistani, and even a few of our home-grown converts. You know how the dots connect.
 
24107 said:
Hey, it's Africa anything goes. remember rwanda the hutsi and the tutsi's? they also still burn ''witches'' in Africa. So your grasping at straws here trying to equate sub saharan africans with muslims from other parts of the world. Your just looking for any oppurtunity to bash Islam and Muslims, i read many of your posts, and i think you belong at STORMFRONT, everyone knows your sthick already, you are a very predictable simple minded hateful man, who has most likely failed in life, so you decided to vent out your anger on muslims.
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Egypt is not sub-Saharan. Nor is Pakistan. Indonesia. Etc.
 
24107 said:
Hey, it's Africa anything goes. remember rwanda the hutsi and the tutsi's? they also still burn ''witches'' in Africa. So your grasping at straws here trying to equate sub saharan africans with muslims from other parts of the world. Your just looking for any oppurtunity to bash Islam and Muslims, i read many of your posts, and i think you belong at STORMFRONT, everyone knows your sthick already, you are a very predictable simple minded hateful man, who has most likely failed in life, so you decided to vent out your anger on muslims.
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I think you made a good point with the first part of that post, then it went downhill fast..
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Except that the common denominator is not that they all play "terrorism for tots" or eat "Cheerios for Terrorists". Whether Nigerian, Indonesian, Egyption, Saudi, Pakistani, and even a few of our home-grown converts. You know how the dots connect.
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More terrorist attacks have been committed in the US by christians than any other religion.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
How about just posting up all the mosques that were blown up my the Christian "sects" this month. Might help you understand the point of difference.
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Irrelevant. It is not the religion that is the problem, but the people using it to justify violence. And for the record, Christians in Nigeria burn girls as witches, and have also carried out attacks on Muslims.
 
Redress said:
More terrorist attacks have been committed in the US by christians than any other religion.
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O come on Redress why are you posting the facts? the Sgt rocks and Mbigs of the internet world will not be pleased:doh.We must continue the non stop 24 7 anti-muslim propaganda till you have pass out and sleep, it cannot relent.
 
PeteEU said:
LOL the arrogance... these are from the Bible.

















And that is just some of them...

There is even one about killing a whole town if one worships another god... or killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night.. But the best one is
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Funny ****, that being said, I'd say christians as a whole are less violent/radical than muslims, The main difference being that Christians don't take the "Word of God" literally.
 
a777pilot said:
ROFLMAO!

You really don't have any idea do you? You are just another anti-Christian. Maybe even one of these fools, a muslim.
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I have far more idea than you sir, since I have lived among Muslims and Christians most of my life. There are fanatics in both camps who use their religious books for evil. In the US there are paedophile Christian cults that rape children daily and yet your authorities do nothing to stop them. In the Islamic world, there are families who use Islam to justify force feeding their girls (as fat women are seen as healthy) to mutilating female genitalia. In India religious tradition dictates according to some people, that women are to be killed or hurt if their dowry was not good enough or they some how have shamed their family and there are Jews in Israel who think they have a god given right to a piece of land.. want me to go?

The point is, it is people who interpret their holy book for political and personal reasons and that is the danger of these religious books... fanatics can claim anything is justified even things like genocide and mass rape.
 
Hare said:
Funny ****, that being said, I'd say christians as a whole are less violent/radical than muslims, The main difference being that Christians don't take the "Word of God" literally.
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And you are mistaken. More and more take the "Word of God" literally in the Christian world, especially among Evangelicals.

But like in the Christian world, the more educated you are the more you dont "take the word of God literally". There are over 1 billion Muslims on this planet and most are non violent and peaceful like most Christians. It is always the fanatics that are the problem in any religion.
 
PeteEU said:
And you are mistaken. More and more take the "Word of God" literally in the Christian world, especially among Evangelicals.

But like in the Christian world, the more educated you are the more you dont "take the word of God literally". There are over 1 billion Muslims on this planet and most are non violent and peaceful like most Christians. It is always the fanatics that are the problem in any religion.
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Should have thrown "most" in there for a qualifier, I know a few on either side of that spectrum.

Agreed.
 
Redress said:
More terrorist attacks have been committed in the US by christians than any other religion.
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This may be potentially be true (I'd like to see some numbers to back this up), but speaking of the demographic make-up of the people who commit terrorist acts is far different than saying those attacks were done in the name of Christianity. Incidentally, it interesting whoe engages in the most domestic terrorism.

In keeping with a longstanding trend, domestic extremists carried out the majority of terrorist incidents during this period. Twenty three of the 24 recorded terrorist incidents were perpetrated by domestic terrorists. With the exception of a white supremacist’s firebombing of a synagogue in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, all of the domestic terrorist incidents were committed by special interest extremists active in the animal rights and environmental movements. The acts committed by these extremists typically targeted materials and facilities rather than persons. The sole international terrorist incident in the United States recorded for this period involved an attack at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport, which claimed the lives of two victims.
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http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005
 
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PeteEU said:
And you are mistaken. More and more take the "Word of God" literally in the Christian world, especially among Evangelicals.

But like in the Christian world, the more educated you are the more you dont "take the word of God literally". There are over 1 billion Muslims on this planet and most are non violent and peaceful like most Christians. It is always the fanatics that are the problem in any religion.
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Actually, if Christians took the words of the New Testament literally, there should be no 'Christian terrorism' at all. You cannot claim that the teachings and tenants of Christ are exactly the same as those of Mohammed.
 
Redress said:
More terrorist attacks have been committed in the US by Christians than any other religion.
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LOL!

Again, there are at least 76% of the people of the USA that say they are Christians. Only about 1% claim to be muslim. I have not looked up the statistics but I would opine that this 1% are responsible for way more than 1% of the terrorist type attacks in the USA since 9/11.
 
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