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Muslim sect claims Nigeria church attacks; 25 dead

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Well, that just can't be! Christians are a protected minority in Egypt! That what the Libbos kept claiming during the spring revolution, anyway.
 
Muslims are just POS! OK, there might be a few good ones but if they even think of trying to speak out....they're dead. So, the entire so called religion is whacked. It's they only "religion" that as a tenant of the religion, it calls for the death of all non-muslims. Yup, a "religion" of peace.....................................not.
 
Egypt's Muslims attend Coptic Christmas mass, serving as "human shields" - Attack on Egypt Copts - Egypt - Ahram Online As for the OP I have dealt with that in the other thread but i would like to point out the importance of the word 'sect'
YOUR link continues (after Movie Stars in support of the Copts)

"..The attack has rocked a nation that is no stranger to acts of terror, against all of Muslims, Copts and Jews. In January of last year, on the eve of Coptic Christmas, a drive-by shooting in the southern town of Nag Hammadi killed eight Copts as they were leaving Church following mass. In 2004 and 2005, bombings in the Red Sea resorts of Taba and Sharm El-Sheikh claimed over 100 lives, and in the late 90’s, Islamic militants executed a series of bombings and massacres that left dozens dead.
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Last year was also witness to a ruthless parliamentary election process in which the government’s security apparatus and thugs seemed to spiral out of control. The result, aside from injuries and deaths, was a sweeping win by the ruling party thanks to its own carefully-orchestrated campaign that included vote-rigging, corruption and widespread violence. The opposition was essentially annihilated. And just days before the elections, Copts - who make up 10% of the population - were once again the subject of persecution, when a Government moratorium on construction of a Christian community centre resulted in clashes between police and protestors. Two people were left dead and over 100 were detained, facing sentences of up to life in jail.'...

Also see;
Egyptian Coptic Christians fear rise in discrimination
Egyptian Coptic Christians fear rise in discrimination

Egypt's Embattled Christians Seek Room in America
Egypt's Embattled Christians Seek Room in America - WSJ.com

Copts have been persecuted not just by 'sects' but by the GOVT of Egypt for decades, just as Christians THROUGHOUT the Middle East have been Cleansed for half a century.
Arab-Muslim rule has been a disaster for M-E Christians and is getting even Worse under the 'Arab Spring'/complete-self-rule of the last few years. Iraq, Egypt, etc.
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EDIT: The post immediately below is non-analogous apologist Nonsense.
The usual Ridiculous.. "just a few bad apples" to try and excuse a worldwide phenomenon endorsed by Govts as well as 'radicals'.
Islam IS an Inordinately intolerant and violent religion.
 
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Muslims are just POS! OK, there might be a few good ones but if they even think of trying to speak out....they're dead. So, the entire so called religion is whacked. It's they only "religion" that as a tenant of the religion, it calls for the death of all non-muslims. Yup, a "religion" of peace.....................................not.
There are plenty of fine Muslims. The problem is that the loudest members of any group tend to be assholes.

Other religions also call for the deaths of people who don't follow the religion. Judaism and Christianity as well as Islam call for the deaths of homosexuals.
 
Well, that just can't be! Christians are a protected minority in Egypt! That what the Libbos kept claiming during the spring revolution, anyway.

Being protected doesn't mean its impossible to be attacked or suffer violence.
 
There are plenty of fine Muslims. The problem is that the loudest members of any group tend to be assholes.

Other religions also call for the deaths of people who don't follow the religion. Judaism and Christianity as well as Islam call for the deaths of homosexuals.

BS!

No other religion calls for the death of those that don't agree with them other as a basica tenant of that religion. Only the muslims.
 
Yeah, 'just a few bad apples'.

Islamic Nations Slaughter, Enslave Christians
ConservativeTruth.org: Islamic Nations Slaughter, Enslave Christians - Tom Barrett, 12-16-01
THERE IS NOT ONE CHRISTIAN NATION ON EARTH WHERE MUSLIMS ARE PERSECUTED. Yet in 83% of nations where the majority of the population are Muslims, there is systematic Government persecution of Christians. (See "Religious Freedom in the Majority Islamic Countries" in the Resources section below.) This persecution includes imposing the death penalty for sharing the Christian faith with a Muslim; national laws prohibiting conversion from Islam to Christianity; destruction of churches; and murder or expulsion of Christian missionaries. Even in the few predominantly Muslim countries where the government does not openly participate in the persecution, it ignores and even encourages illegal persecution by Muslims against Christians.

I spent hours going through the well-documented profiles of the 46 countries listed in the report mentioned above. Of these, 6 did not have significant Muslim populations. Of the 39 with a strong Muslim majority, only seven could be considered to be either neutral or tolerant toward their Christian minorities. If the United States were to treat its roughly two million Muslims with one-tenth of the violence and humiliation that these Islamic nations heap on their Christians, the worldwide outcry would be immediate, and justified. Why, then, does the "Community of Nations," including the United States, turn a deaf ear to the cries of the persecuted Christians in Muslim nations?

The laws of most of these Islamic nations give lip service to religious freedom. Nothing could be further from the truth. In most of the countries I researched, the death penalty was common for converting from Islam to Christianity (or any other religion). Christians receive no protection from these governments when they are persecuted; indeed, most often the governments themselves are the persecutors. Children of Christians are stolen from their parents so that they can be raised as Muslims. Speaking about Christianity to a Muslim can result in beatings, long prison sentences and even death.'...
you'll have to go for link-bashing now apologists, the meat is just too devastating.
 
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BS!

No other religion calls for the death of those that don't agree with them other as a basica tenant of that religion. Only the muslims.

Regardless of what their holy book says, and its arguable as to what their book says just likes its arguable as to exactly what the Bible says. But the biggest problem I see with many of Islam's biggest critics is that they have no solution. Personally I am entirely solution oriented, I need a course of action to achieve a better situation. So if you believe that Islam is on an eternal march to the deaths of others, what do you propose we do about it?
 
Regardless of what their holy book says, and its arguable as to what their book says just likes its arguable as to exactly what the Bible says. But the biggest problem I see with many of Islam's biggest critics is that they have no solution. Personally I am entirely solution oriented, I need a course of action to achieve a better situation. So if you believe that Islam is on an eternal march to the deaths of others, what do you propose we do about it?

You want a solution. Stop all immighration of muslim to our country. Send those that live here now to the countries where they or their families came from. Islam is not compatable with free societies. Until Islam is reformed and they can prove that they are willing to coexist in peace with non believers we need to restrict their entrance into our country.
 
BS!

No other religion calls for the death of those that don't agree with them other as a basica tenant of that religion. Only the muslims.

I lived in a muslim country and went to a highschool full of them. I don't recall anyone trying to kill me.


...basic tenant :roll:
 
You want a solution. Stop all immighration of muslim to our country. Send those that live here now to the countries where they or their families came from. Islam is not compatable with free societies. Until Islam is reformed and they can prove that they are willing to coexist in peace with non believers we need to restrict their entrance into our country.

Aside from the questionable assertion, neither is denying a whole population the ability to immigrate simply because of their religious faith, or deporting the ones who are already here because of theirs. :roll:
 
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You want a solution. Stop all immighration of muslim to our country. Send those that live here now to the countries where they or their families came from. Islam is not compatable with free societies. Until Islam is reformed and they can prove that they are willing to coexist in peace with non believers we need to restrict their entrance into our country.

You might run into problems with the majority of society, the world, the Constitution, and a little section called the First Amendment. Not to mention your and my Islamic brothers who serve with us in the military, they may not be too pleased about their honorable service being denied because of the work of radicals.

No thats not a solution, that's stupid rhetoric and impractical in all aspects of looking at it, you might as well be saying you're going to sprinkle some fairy dust into the wind.
 
Aside from the questionable assertion, neither is denying a whole population the ability to immigrate simply because of their religious faith, or deporting the ones who are already here because of theirs. :roll:

Its useless to debate this again. You know where I stand. And I know where you stand. no mater what you say it will not change the fact that Islam is incompatable with a free soceity. The very word islam means submission to allah. Muslims are prisoners of their religion with no way out. The punishment for apostasy is death. And non believers must convert, be subjugated and pay jizya, or be killed. No room for freedom and democracy in muslim soceity. Through immigration the muslim population increases. When it reaches a certain percentage of the overall population you will start to see changes. Changes like we are seeing in parts of the UK, as well as other parts of Europe. Even in places like Dearborn Michigan. Its just a matter of time.
 
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Its useless to debate this again. You know where I stand. And I know where you stand. no mater what you say it will not change the fact that Islam is incompatable with a free soceity. The very word islam means submission to allah. Muslims are prisoners of their religion with no way out. The punishment for apostasy is death. And non believers must convert, be subjugated and pay jizya, or be killed. No room for freedom and democracy in muslim soceity. Through immigration the muslim population increases. When it reaches a certain percentage of the overall population you will start to see changes. Changes like we are seeing in parts of the UK, as well as other parts of Europe. Even in places like Dearborn Michigan. Its just a matter of time.

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Come on now, you must have a better solution than the impossible. If the United States is headed on this course, what can we do right now to avoid it, and if we can't avoid it because there are too many liberals in the way what can we do now to make the affect of it less, to be prepared for. You've focused all your time on preaching the end of the world, but you've done nothing it seems to prepare for it, makes me wonder if you really believe what you say.

Also I've been to Muslim parts of the world myself, they all are not thugs and killers. I visited Xianjiang in west China which is a predominately Muslim area, and the people were quite friendly and open about talking to Westerns. No one threatened to cut off my head with a sword.
 
BS!

No other religion calls for the death of those that don't agree with them other as a basica tenant of that religion. Only the muslims.

LOL the arrogance... these are from the Bible.

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

And that is just some of them...

There is even one about killing a whole town if one worships another god... or killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night.. But the best one is

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
 
LOL the arrogance... these are from the Bible.

And that is just some of them...

There is even one about killing a whole town if one worships another god... or killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night.. But the best one is

How about just posting up all the mosques that were blown up my the Christian "sects" this month. Might help you understand the point of difference.
 
How about just posting up all the mosques that were blown up my the Christian "sects" this month. Might help you understand the point of difference.

True, Christians as a whole are less violate than Muslims, but clearly since violence against your fellow man and non-believers are part of both holy books that must not be the issue. There must be other factors in play for why Islam sees these kinds of radicals in a greater degree than Christianity, I believe the reason why has more to do with other aspects of culture, society, and government than their actual religion.
 
You might run into problems with the majority of society, the world, the Constitution, and a little section called the First Amendment. Not to mention your and my Islamic brothers who serve with us in the military, they may not be too pleased about their honorable service being denied because of the work of radicals.

No thats not a solution, that's stupid rhetoric and impractical in all aspects of looking at it, you might as well be saying you're going to sprinkle some fairy dust into the wind.

It's not "stupid rhetoric"to want to restrict people with particular beliefs from entering or residing in any country. That's just what Muslims do in their countries in fact.

Most democracies don't want racists, homophobics, xenophobes, honor killers, etc. and far too many Muslims share this commonality. It is impossible to separate to separate "good" Muslims" from "bad" Muslims so until their is a reformation within their religion, and that could be demonstrated by offering the same rights in Muslim dominated countries as they expect to receive in the democracies, there should definitely be restrictions on them entering any democracy.

It is no one's right to enter any other country carte blanche and any group that has obviously dangerous members should be investigated more thoroughly/.
 
True, Christians as a whole are less violate than Muslims, but clearly since violence against your fellow man and non-believers are part of both holy books that must not be the issue. There must be other factors in play for why Islam sees these kinds of radicals in a greater degree than Christianity, I believe the reason why has more to do with other aspects of culture, society, and government than their actual religion.

Christianity has the New Testament and Reformation, Islam does not have anything similar. In fact they are moving backwards in many areas.

There are many aspects of the O.T. the large majority Christians ignore while this appears to be less true of Muslims and their Koran.
 
True, Christians as a whole are less violate than Muslims, but clearly since violence against your fellow man and non-believers are part of both holy books that must not be the issue. There must be other factors in play for why Islam sees these kinds of radicals in a greater degree than Christianity, I believe the reason why has more to do with other aspects of culture, society, and government than their actual religion.

BS!

Try studying their fool's religion.
 
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Come on now, you must have a better solution than the impossible. If the United States is headed on this course, what can we do right now to avoid it, and if we can't avoid it because there are too many liberals in the way what can we do now to make the affect of it less, to be prepared for. You've focused all your time on preaching the end of the world, but you've done nothing it seems to prepare for it, makes me wonder if you really believe what you say.

Also I've been to Muslim parts of the world myself, they all are not thugs and killers. I visited Xianjiang in west China which is a predominately Muslim area, and the people were quite friendly and open about talking to Westerns. No one threatened to cut off my head with a sword.

You mean that all Muslims are not terrorists???

Where have I heard that before?

Perhaps its time we dropped this "not al Muslims are terrorists" mantra and focused more on those who are, or who might be.
 
Christianity has the New Testament and Reformation, Islam does not have anything similar. In fact they are moving backwards in many areas.

There are many aspects of the O.T. the large majority Christians ignore while this appears to be less true of Muslims and their Koran.

That is my opinion is exactly what Islam could use, and yes the issue is that many Muslims take from their Koran things that Christians ignore in their holy book. Like I said, since both books contain violence to non-believers I believe its more of a cultural problem than a religious one, and unfortunately it took Christianity centuries to drag itself out of the pits of religious ignorance and extremism. And even then Christian nations and people still committed horrible atrocities against one another and to each other, the Holocaust is still recent history and the Soviet Union only fell apart 20 years ago.
 
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