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At least 63 killed in co-ordinated Baghdad attacks [edited]

is the iraq war over ??

  • yes

    Votes: 10 58.8%
  • no

    Votes: 7 41.2%

  • Total voters
    17
Then learn to be clear.




I see you support murderous, thug dictators as long as they are your murderous, thugs. Wonderful....Why do you have so little regard for the lives that Saddam tortured, and snuffed out?


j-mac

Saddam used to be our murderous thug, back when he was seen as a buffer against the Soviets.

After we won the cold war, we no longer needed him, so he just became another murderous thug, unclaimed by anyone.
 
Saddam used to be our murderous thug, back when he was seen as a buffer against the Soviets.

After we won the cold war, we no longer needed him, so he just became another murderous thug, unclaimed by anyone.


Oh come on...So the US is just in it for self interest eh?

j-mac
 
Saddam was a buffer against the Shiite Muslims in Iran.
 
Oh come on...So the US is just in it for self interest eh?

j-mac

Well, it would be a good idea if we did look out for our own self interest and not try to remake someone else's nation because it is run by a murderous thug who is not a threat to us.

Further, your comment about supporting murderous, thug dictators as long as they are our murderous, thugs did remind me that Hussein was once seen as being on our side, or at least supporting our self interests.
 
Well, it would be a good idea if we did look out for our own self interest and not try to remake someone else's nation because it is run by a murderous thug who is not a threat to us.

Further, your comment about supporting murderous, thug dictators as long as they are our murderous, thugs did remind me that Hussein was once seen as being on our side, or at least supporting our self interests.

And when he proved to be more risk to us, and the region, he had to go.


j-mac
 
And when he proved to be more risk to us, and the region, he had to go.


j-mac

When did that happen? How long did that scarey risk last? To paraphrase CATO, if Saddam was such a threat, why are we still alive? Trying to make Saddam a threat that required invading is like trying to make Don Knotts look like Brock Lesner. Good luck with that. I suspect only the faithful, who willingly suspend disbelief will take that ride with you. :coffeepap
 
Then learn to be clear.

J, it was perfectly clear, and I suspect you see that now that you've re-read it.


I see you support murderous, thug dictators as long as they are your murderous, thugs. Wonderful....Why do you have so little regard for the lives that Saddam tortured, and snuffed out?


j-mac

J, you can do better than this silliness. This is exactly what we did as a country. Saddam was fine as long as he was ours. That is exactly what we did, and with much conservative support I might add. And no one but those who watched Saddam as he killed those people, waited until it was allover, and then, and only then, decided to add war and more death to the misery of the Iraqis. We didn't stop killing, we added to it. On several occassions I have given you the position paper by the human rights organization that wanted Saddam removed but couold not support our action. They did for the reason I mention above. We saved no one; we only added to the death and misery.
 
J, it was perfectly clear, and I suspect you see that now that you've re-read it.




J, you can do better than this silliness. This is exactly what we did as a country. Saddam was fine as long as he was ours. That is exactly what we did, and with much conservative support I might add. And no one but those who watched Saddam as he killed those people, waited until it was allover, and then, and only then, decided to add war and more death to the misery of the Iraqis. We didn't stop killing, we added to it. On several occassions I have given you the position paper by the human rights organization that wanted Saddam removed but couold not support our action. They did for the reason I mention above. We saved no one; we only added to the death and misery.

Now you're being silly....If you want to discuss the entire Iraq war yet again, I'd be happy to, but you may want to start its own thread.

j-mac
 
Now you're being silly....If you want to discuss the entire Iraq war yet again, I'd be happy to, but you may want to start its own thread.

j-mac

Meaning you have no answer.

I didn't bring up the topic. But the truth is the truth. :coffeepap
 
Meaning you have no answer.

I didn't bring up the topic. But the truth is the truth. :coffeepap


Wow, How very mature of you....I agree that facts are indeed truth, but you don't have a corner on truth with your opinion.


j-mac
 
It took some of the smartest men in history 12 years to form a government, that we now call the United States of America.

You really expect these clowns to do it in less time?

But, hey! Am I the only one that isn't surprised that the bad guys went on the down low, until U.S. forces moved out, then decided to get off the hook?

Last I checked our Founders didn't need a foreign power on our land for those 12 years.
 
And how many lives did that cost?


j-mac

How many lives were lost under Kim Jong Il? How many under Eqypt's regime, or Saudi Arabia. How many lives are lost in Africa each year under their oppressive regimes.

Please don't act like you actually care about lives lost as a reason for action like Iraq.
 
How many lives were lost under Kim Jong Il? How many under Eqypt's regime, or Saudi Arabia. How many lives are lost in Africa each year under their oppressive regimes.

Please don't act like you actually care about lives lost as a reason for action like Iraq.

What an artless dodge!!

Why not respond to the question?
 
Nothing, since the fall of the Soviet union. That's when he outlived his usefulness.


Yep, and when he started being a threat to the region, and a thorn in the international community he was removed.


j-mac
 
What an artless dodge!!

Why not respond to the question?

Not a dodge, proving a point. You and other CONs could give a rat's ass about lives lost, otherwise you would support us being in Africa and other places where there is a high killing rate by oppresive regimes. You only "care" about lives when it's some place useful to the U.S. like Middle East oil and footing against countries like Iran. Pathetic that you and other CONS try and hide your actions behind trying to save lives. Buillsh*t.
 
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