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2 women share 1st kiss at US Navy ship's return

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Hey, don't ask; don't tell.
 
In that circumstance it is never, ever enforced. When a ship pulls in, that is the norm, though not with same sex couples in the past.

But, you admit the regulation exists? Might see some never before seen enforcement of PDA regulations nowadays.
 
But, you admit the regulation exists? Might see some never before seen enforcement of PDA regulations nowadays.

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It's been a Navy Tradition longer than most have been alive... I'd say they're likely safe.
 
But, you admit the regulation exists? Might see some never before seen enforcement of PDA regulations nowadays.

Are you saying the military might selectively enforce PDA rules to discriminate against homosexuals?
 
Where are all of DADT's champions? And why didn't the ships crew mutiny after being forced to serve along side a gay individual?

There was one gay solider when they sail; and one straight solider when they returned to port.
 
But, you admit the regulation exists? Might see some never before seen enforcement of PDA regulations nowadays.

Actually I have never seen it, nor can I find it with a very quick google search, but it may. It was my understanding it was a tradition and not an actual regulation. Selective enforcement of rules is not a navy tradition however. This has to be one of the most stupid arguments I have ever heard.
 
Actually I have never seen it, nor can I find it with a very quick google search, but it may. It was my understanding it was a tradition and not an actual regulation. Selective enforcement of rules is not a navy tradition however. This has to be one of the most stupid arguments I have ever heard.

Once this was posted, I knew he was going to come into the thread and find some way of having a problem with it.
 
Mother ****ing winning!
 
Once this was posted, I knew he was going to come into the thread and find some way of having a problem with it.

He doesn't hate gays... he just hates them doing anything or being seen in any way or being treated as equals!
 
He doesn't hate gays... he just hates them doing anything or being seen in any way or being treated as equals!

Did you know gays can even serve Coffee at Starbucks, and work anywhere they want! :eek:
 
Did you know gays can even serve Coffee at Starbucks, and work anywhere they want! :eek:

Starbucks taste like burnt water.

And don't you dare call me Starbuckaphobic!

I'll have to beat you up!
 
Starbucks taste like burnt water.

And don't you dare call me Starbuckaphobic!

I'll have to beat you up!

That's why they call it Charbucks.
 
Funny he never had a problem with this naval tradition before this story...

To be fair, I don't recall it being brought up in a news piece before this story.
 
To be fair, I don't recall it being brought up in a news piece before this story.

He's been in the military, he knows what every homecoming looks like, lots of reunited couples, lots of kissing, lots of hugging.

We actually tried in my unit to tell Soldiers not to do this at homecomings, but I told my Commander he's either going to damage moral, discipline, or his homecoming, or worst all three. It damages moral because the last thing a Soldier wants to be told after coming back from a year of war is "don't touch your wife, not even hand holding is permitted." So the Soldier is either going to ignore that instruction, and if we don't punish or at least counsel him for doing it ruins our discipline because it makes it look like what we don't enforce what we say and it makes us look like bad decision makers. Or it harms their moral because it sounds like after all this time we are still worried about little things like "public displays of affection" as opposed to letting Soldiers embrace their wives. Or it ruins the homecoming event because no one is going to stick around for the reception to introduce their wives to their best buddies they've met overseas or tell war stories together, or stick around to really honor those who may have been killed or wounded, so it doesn't help our inter-unit bonds and brotherhood between Soldiers and all our families.

So you bar PDAs at homecomings, and what do you get in return? Nothing except you can look yourself in the mirror and go "That Soldier didn't get to kiss his wife, but DAMN IT it in the regulations!!" Personally for me regulations have their place but any good leader knows when they need to be bent or ignored, and good Soldiers know they can trust their leader to do so when its in everyone's interests without violating any Army value like integrity.

I'll give you another example, a Soldier of mine recently had a child who turned out to be deformed and didn't survive a few days after birth. He was going through a lot of ****, and when his wife came to pick him up after I of course gave him permission to leave during the duty day to go with her to arrange funeral services, WITHOUT all the official paperwork of giving him a pass, they embraced as kissed. I didn't do the official paperwork and I didn't stop the PDA, because whether its in the reg or not, now is not the time to say "Excuse me Sergeant, I know you're child just died but I need to go come inside for a moment to fill out this document."
 
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To be fair, I don't recall it being brought up in a news piece before this story.

You have never seen the famous picture from WW2 of the sailor kissing the woman?
 
You have never seen the famous picture from WW2 of the sailor kissing the woman?

No, I have seen that picture. I just don't recall it being brought up here before in a news piece where he took issue with it. I agree it is still a bull**** double standard and the only reason he is taking issue with it is because it is two women.
 
Funny he never had a problem with this naval tradition before this story...

Libbos never bragged about Navy traditions, before...LOL!!

Now that it's politically correct, Navy traditions are, awesome!
 
Libbos never bragged about Navy traditions, before...LOL!!

Now that it's politically correct, Navy traditions are, awesome!

Personally, since I'm not a liberal and I don't believe any one person could even speak so diverse, so undefinable as to its exact members, and so large, I've never had a problem with any Navy tradition I've heard of. And I have heard of this one before this story, I have friends and family who are/were in the Navy. Anyway... I think you can tell by my comments on Army Homecomings that I don't have a problem with public displays of affection on certain occasions, nor am I an Officer who follows the exact lettering of the regulations at all times.

Also I never had a problem with PDAs in some situations before gays were allowed to serve openly, if I was in charge of an Army Homecoming and DADT was still in place I would make the same argument I told you about earlier when I was speaking with my Commander. If I had a Soldier I knew was gay I would be empathic towards them, since they would be unable to show affection toward their partner, but I wouldn't say or think "Since this gay Soldier can't display affection, no one can because its politically incorrect."

So anyway back on topic... Where's you're defense of DADT?
 
Personally, since I'm not a liberal and I don't believe any one person could even speak so diverse, so undefinable as to its exact members, and so large, I've never had a problem with any Navy tradition I've heard of. And I have heard of this one before this story, I have friends and family who are/were in the Navy. Anyway... I think you can tell by my comments on Army Homecomings that I don't have a problem with public displays of affection on certain occasions, nor am I an Officer who follows the exact lettering of the regulations at all times.

Also I never had a problem with PDAs in some situations before gays were allowed to serve openly, if I was in charge of an Army Homecoming and DADT was still in place I would make the same argument I told you about earlier when I was speaking with my Commander. If I had a Soldier I knew was gay I would be empathic towards them, since they would be unable to show affection toward their partner, but I wouldn't say or think "Since this gay Soldier can't display affection, no one can because its politically incorrect."

So anyway back on topic... Where's you're defense of DADT?

Is that the topic of the thread? I thought the topic was two chicks smootching at a ship dock.
 
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