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House leader rejects Senate payroll tax plan(edited)

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House leader rejects Senate payroll tax plan - CNN.com

The spineless GOP House leader has shown his weakness again by changing his position on the bipartisan Senate payroll tax cut deal. After first saying "It was a good deal" he now says he opposes it. As Nancy put it ""By holding up this bipartisan compromise, tea party House Republicans are walking away once again, showing their extremism and clearly demonstrating that they never intended to give the middle class a tax cut," Pelosi said.

is it any wonder that the approval rating of Congress is in the single digits? Allowing a minority to determine policy is against our Constitution isn't it?
Boehner needs to grow a pair and get his House in order. We the people need to throw those Koch employees out of the House in 2012 or face more and more obstructionism.
 
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It's a problem that Boehner agree's with the position taken by Obama?
 
Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

It's a problem that Boehner agree's with the position taken by Obama?

No, apparently it is a problem that Boehner flops to his base?
 
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No, apparently it is a problem that Boehner flops to his base?

It's bad that his base agree's with Obama?
 
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It's bad that his base agree's with Obama?

I think it is interesting. One side is playing better politics than the other right now, but I don't know which.
 
Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

It's a problem that Boehner agree's with the position taken by Obama?

when did obama oppose this?
 
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I think it is interesting. One side is playing better politics than the other right now, but I don't know which.

Actually, both are kinda sucking it up at the moment. They are both so busy trying to screw the other guy that they aren't realizing that the best method to win the next election is to actually govern. The people of this country don't need a scapegoat and a great politician, we need a government and I think a lot more people are able to tell the difference than the news and politicians think.

The first team to stop beating the other guys and start fixing problems will win.
 
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when did obama oppose this?

Obama believes the tax cuts should be extended for a year. The House is taking up his arguement.
 
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Obama believes the tax cuts should be extended for a year. The House is taking up his arguement.

The T's in the House want to end the payroll cuts that benefit the middle class and give more to the millionaires. That's who pays their bills and I'm tired of it. Who are the fools that voted them in?
 
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The T's in the House want to end the payroll cuts that benefit the middle class and give more to the millionaires. That's who pays their bills and I'm tired of it. Who are the fools that voted them in?

Then I guess that's Obama's position also since he is for extending the cuts also?
 
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Then I guess that's Obama's position also since he is for extending the cuts also?

You didn't read the link, either the House votes on the compromise or the payroll tax goes UP on 160 million Americans. Double talk won't change that.


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said in a statement Sunday that Boehner had earlier left it to Senate leaders to come up with a deal, and now was changing his tune after the Senate easily adopted the two-month extension.

"Neither side got everything they wanted, but we forged a middle ground that passed the Senate by an overwhelming bipartisan majority," Reid said. "If Speaker Boehner refuses to vote on the bipartisan compromise that passed the Senate with 89 votes, Republicans will be forcing a thousand-dollar tax increase on middle class families on January 1st."

In addition, a Senate Democratic aide told CNN the chances were "zero" that the Senate would reconvene from its holiday recess to continue negotiating with the House on the issue.
 
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As long as anyone in Congress makes a deal to kick the can two months down the road, they are going about this the wrong way...or they are just playing Party politics (I suspect the latter).

Cudo's to the Tea Party for keeping Boehner on the straight and narrow.

The Democrats will cave...like they always do when they don't have a solid majority.
 
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You didn't read the link, either the House votes on the compromise or the payroll tax goes UP on 160 million Americans. Double talk won't change that.

Well no, you forgot about the option of renegotiating the bill more to the liking of what Obama wanted.
 
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It's funny how Republicans criticize Obama if he can't garner 100% of his congressional caucus to overcome a filibuster, but Boehner gets a pass when he is consistently unable to corral even a simple majority of his caucus for significant measures like this one. I can't remember a less effective Speaker of the House.
 
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It's funny how Republicans criticize Obama if he can't garner 100% of his congressional caucus to overcome a filibuster, but Boehner gets a pass when he is consistently unable to corral even a simple majority of his caucus for significant measures like this one. I can't remember a less effective Speaker of the House.

Don't know what you are talking about. Boehner did "corral" his members to pass the 1 year bill that Obama wanted.

Most people don't even know that the Senate bill includes a $17 monthly surcharge on all new home loans and refinance loans to pay for this. Is that really a good way to pay for this when the housing market is already in the dump ??
 
Re: Boehner bows to Teaparty and reverses support for payroll tax cut deal.

It's funny how Republicans criticize Obama if he can't garner 100% of his congressional caucus to overcome a filibuster, but Boehner gets a pass when he is consistently unable to corral even a simple majority of his caucus for significant measures like this one. I can't remember a less effective Speaker of the House.

Boehner isn't in charge of the Republican Party.

Obama has made himself in charge of the Democrats. At least, in any comparison between Democrats and Republicans, it's always Obama and the Republicans. Never the Congressional Democrats and the Republicans.

This is Obama's doing...not the Republican's doing.
 
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Don't know what you are talking about. Boehner did "corral" his members to pass the 1 year bill that Obama wanted.

Most people don't even know that the Senate bill includes a $17 monthly surcharge on all new home loans and refinance loans to pay for this. Is that really a good way to pay for this when the housing market is already in the dump ??

Think again: Payroll tax cut extension in doubt amid House Republican uproar - The Washington Post
 
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Boehner isn't in charge of the Republican Party.

Obama has made himself in charge of the Democrats. At least, in any comparison between Democrats and Republicans, it's always Obama and the Republicans. Never the Congressional Democrats and the Republicans.

This is Obama's doing...not the Republican's doing.

To the contrary, the House Majority Leader is most certainly the leader of House Republicans. That's why the elected him Speaker. Obama is in the unfortunate position of having to negotiate with someone who can't even speak for his own caucus.
 
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Nothing to think about. The House passed a year long bill, the Senate passed a 2 month bill. What's the point of going through all of this again in only two months ??

Obama said he wants a yearly bill, not a 2 month bill, so that is what the House gave him.

Why do you think it's a good thing to fight this same fight in only 2 months ??

Why do you think it's a good thing to add $17 to everyone's house payment to pay for this ??
 
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To the contrary, the House Majority Leader is most certainly the leader of House Republicans. That's why the elected him Speaker. Obama is in the unfortunate position of having to negotiate with someone who can't even speak for his own caucus.

Why can't Obama garner the support of the Senate Dems ??? He obviously can't garner enough votes there to get the year long bill he asked for ??
 
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Nothing to think about. The House passed a year long bill, the Senate passed a 2 month bill. What's the point of going through all of this again in only two months ??

Obama said he wants a yearly bill, not a 2 month bill, so that is what the House gave him.

Why do you think it's a good thing to fight this same fight in only 2 months ??

Why do you think it's a good thing to add $17 to everyone's house payment to pay for this ??

The House passed a bill larded up with poison pills that they knew perfectly well Democrats would never accept. Democrats have said that they should pass a temporary extension to prevent the tax from going up while they work out a compromise. Boehner can't even herd his cats into approving that. :roll:
 
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Why can't Obama garner the support of the Senate Dems ??? He obviously can't garner enough votes there to get the year long bill he asked for ??

Unlike the House, the Senate has no interest in passing something just to say they passed it. They will pass a year-long extension when they have something that can reasonably be expected to pass the House.
 
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The House passed a bill larded up with poison pills that they knew perfectly well Democrats would never accept. Democrats have said that they should pass a temporary extension to prevent the tax from going up while they work out a compromise. Boehner can't even herd his cats into approving that. :roll:

Of course he can't because they know it's the wrong thing to do.

The Senate bill is also loaded with poison pills, i.e. the short time span and asking the already depressed housing market to pay for it.
 
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Unlike the House, the Senate has no interest in passing something just to say they passed it. They will pass a year-long extension when they have something that can reasonably be expected to pass the House.

No, they'd rather stonewall and be a "do nothing" Senate. Don't know why anyone would expect Reid to actually do his job and pass some bills.

He won't even pass a mandated budget for the past two plus years.
 
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