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Holder, Grilled on Gun Inquiry, Says He Won’t Resign

Boo Radley said:
Nope. Nor have I argued ANYONE should get away with ANYTHING. I'm just noting how you've changed based on who is in office.

The point was rather clear. Holder wasn't having trouble remembering. He may well be guilty of anythign from a crminal act to being just plain incompetent, but compared to Gonzales, who you supported, he was much more open. Unlike you, I'm fine with the law taking care of both of them.
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Gonzales is out. Let's focus on the here and now shall we?

J-mac
 
j-mac said:
Gonzales is out. Let's focus on the here and now shall we?

J-mac
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Until Holder is out, and then you can dismiss a republican doing the same type of ****. I know, I know.

But that's the point. ;)
 
American said:
Holder will resign, there is no doubt.
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No he won't. It was a screw up, but they had good intentions and it doesn't appear that any laws were broken.
 
AdamT said:
No he won't. It was a screw up, but they had good intentions and it doesn't appear that any laws were broken.
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When they say they won't resign, they ultimately do.
 
Someone pay for a locksmith to change his lock at work.
 
This is Solyndra all over again. Lots of wacky claims from the wacky whiners on the right, but none can point to any misbehavior by Holder.
 
AdamT said:
No he won't. It was a screw up, but they had good intentions and it doesn't appear that any laws were broken.
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Good for whom? The road to Hell is paved with good intentions...
 
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sangha said:
This is Solyndra all over again. Lots of wacky claims from the wacky whiners on the right, but none can point to any misbehavior by Holder.
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The evidence has been cited in numerous posts here at DP. Apparently you choose to ignore it.
 
693. Eric Holder and Operation “Fast and Furious” (11/14/2011)

In last article, I said, “The nuclear disaster hadn’t developed further because their main case failed to go through.” The main plot is to kill Kat Hak Sung in a framed case. In recent years, the Feds prepared so many times to create war on Iran with false flag terror attacks. All failed to go through because the main plot went soured. So in June, when they were creating two nuclear disasters in US, they also authorized themselves with extended illegal power.

FBI expands agents' reach
By Charlie Savage New York Times

WASHIGNGTO - The FBI is giving significant new powers to its roughly 14,000 agents - allowing them more leeway to search databases, go through household trash or use surveillance teams to scrutinize the lives of people who have attracted their attention.
(June 13, 2011 Mercury News)
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The tactic is to authorize the Feds with power of unreasonable arrest and search. When they want to wrong someone they disliked, they only need to plant something illegal in his trash then they can make an arrest. It bypasses the Fourth Amendment. That rule is issued particularly on Kat Hak Sung. That’s obvious. Of course, the rule is against law. It doesn’t matter. They have convenient way. Let a political assigned official to take the responsibility. In August 2007 plot, (signaled by a B-52 loaded with nuclear missiles flying over US Continental on 8/30) President advisor Carl Rove and A.G. Gonzales both resigned on that day. Gonzales stayed a little longer later because the main plot (framed case) hadn’t been carried out. Now it’s A.G. Holder’s turn.

In recent weeks, there is a strong voice to demand the resignation of A.G. Eric Holder for his authorization of “Operation Fast and Furious”. He neglects the demand.

“ Rep. Joe Walsh to Eric Holder: You better resign immediately, buddy
October 26, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Congressional Hearings - "Operation Gunrunner" and "Operation Fast and Furious" in Geopolitics Forum “

“As a victim’s family speaks, 38 congressmen demand Eric Holder’s resignation
Published: 12:43 AM 11/10/2011

Eric Holder | Brian Terry | Resignation | Fast and Furious | The Daily Caller “
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Why Eric Holder clings to his office not to resign? He is waiting for a big case. When the FBI, DEA in Department of Justice commit a crime – killing people in a framed case, he’ll step down to take the responsibility. That’s the way how the Feds play the politics.
 
Boo Radley said:
What? J's lack of concern over Bush officals committing crimes, or j's self proclimations?

This is the post we're discussing:
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You didn't answer my question. You made a vague reference.
 
This whole thing is rather simple folks....

The AG's office was attempting to lay the groundwork for a push against the Second Amendment and gun ownership during Obama's second term in office. Obama was smarter than Mr. Clinton in that he's been waiting for his lame duck term to take a crack at doing what Clinton was stupid enough to try right off the bat.... the complete and utter gutting of the Second Amendment and the idea of civilian gun ownership in the United States. That mistake cost Clinton dearly in the 1994 mid-term election. Right now Holder is standing up and taking the fire as a means to shield the real architect (or at least approver) of the plan, his boss.... Barack Obama, in an election year.
 
1Perry said:
You didn't answer my question. You made a vague reference.
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Really? I thought it was fairly clear. What didn't you understand about J being shown to be hypocritical?
 
j-mac said:
Vague is all Boo has...It is how he thinks he wins.


j-mac
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Not trying to win j. Trying to discuss a few things. Maybe that's why you miss the meaning so often. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
Really? I thought it was fairly clear. What didn't you understand about J being shown to be hypocritical?
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Your vague references. I have no idea of what you might have discussed in the past.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060025746 said:
The evidence has been cited in numerous posts here at DP. Apparently you choose to ignore it.
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At it's worst, there is only evidence of bad judgement. There is no evidence of any illegality
 
1Perry said:
Your vague references. I have no idea of what you might have discussed in the past.
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It's been clearly stated three times now, with a copy of the post that started us going. I'm not sure how you can be confused.
 
Boo Radley said:
It's been clearly stated three times now, with a copy of the post that started us going. I'm not sure how you can be confused.
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You said he defended Bush's illegal activities. I'm asking what activities are you talking about? I think you know that though.
 
1Perry said:
You said he defended Bush's illegal activities. I'm asking what activities are you talking about? I think you know that though.
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The one noted was Gonzales (I highlighted it for you). But there were many. Never once did j react like this.
 
sangha said:
At it's worst, there is only evidence of bad judgement. There is no evidence of any illegality
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Lying to a congressional committee is very bad judgement.
 
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The program was a mess, but I don't believe he is lying. I do believe that scumbag Issa is out to get him, and it makes me sick.
 
Krhazy said:
The program was a mess, but I don't believe he is lying. I do believe that scumbag Issa is out to get him, and it makes me sick.
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We know he didn't tell the truth so there are twp options. 1. He is lying. 2. He has no idea what his people are doing. Neither is good.
 
Krhazy said:
The program was a mess, but I don't believe he is lying. I do believe that scumbag Issa is out to get him, and it makes me sick.
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Yeah, he should have just invoked executive privilege and told him to **** off. Bush style!!!

Do you guys put barbecue sauce on your grilled Holder?
 
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