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Plan B will continue to be offered ONLY behind the counter

Tigger said:
Why not? In my experience the vast majority of people definitely qualify as idiots.
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You think lots of people are idiots. Lots of people think you're an idiot. So what's that get you? Nothing.

(And I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just making the point that anyone can just call anyone an idiot.)
 
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sangha said:
Regular BC is easy to get, and usually cheaper
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I agree but plan B would be easier to get at that point and as someone pointed out money is not always a problem for people. I think that offering it on the shelves is a bad idea. I think it should be offered behind the counter in a similar manner as cold medicine is.
 
lovetosing4678 said:
I agree but plan B would be easier to get at that point and as someone pointed out money is not always a problem for people. I think that offering it on the shelves is a bad idea. I think it should be offered behind the counter in a similar manner as cold medicine is.
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As long as it is available...fine. Let the states determine if it is in front of the counter or behind the counter the same as cold medicine.
 
lovetosing4678 said:
I agree but plan B would be easier to get at that point and as someone pointed out money is not always a problem for people. I think that offering it on the shelves is a bad idea. I think it should be offered behind the counter in a similar manner as cold medicine is.
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Money may not be a problem, but finding a pharmacy with Plan B might. I assume that almost every pharmacy carries regular BC
 
Does anybody have any evidence besides speculation that women are using plan B as a primary form of birth control??? Paying $50 for a pill every time you have sex vs getting low cost or free (more effective) birth control pills just doesn't make sense. Again, I don't people are this stupid.
 
kerussll said:
Does anybody have any evidence besides speculation that women are using plan B as a primary form of birth control??? Paying $50 for a pill every time you have sex vs getting low cost or free (more effective) birth control pills just doesn't make sense. Again, I don't people are this stupid.
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I have my doubts about there being any limits to stupidity, but I do doubt the honesty of those speculations
 
sangha said:
Money may not be a problem, but finding a pharmacy with Plan B might. I assume that almost every pharmacy carries regular BC
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If you have a prescription. What is the advantage of having it offered on the shelves?
 
kerussll said:
Does anybody have any evidence besides speculation that women are using plan B as a primary form of birth control??? Paying $50 for a pill every time you have sex vs getting low cost or free (more effective) birth control pills just doesn't make sense. Again, I don't people are this stupid.
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As I said earlier, I know someone who has taken Plan B at least once (and thought about taking it at least 2 other times that I know of) within about 4 or 5 months, as the longest time span. She did not think that she would be able to take regular birth control (remembering to take it every day, kinda big to begin with and knew someone who gained lots of weight with depo). I do not doubt that there are plenty of other women out there who would feel the same way.

Heck, when there is a woman out there who admits to having already had 15+ actual abortions (which are more expensive than bc or Plan B almost certainly), I do not doubt that there are lots of women who would consider Plan B to be much more convenient than birth control, since they would be taking it after the fact, not remembering to take it every day to prevent pregnancy.
 
roguenuke said:
As I said earlier, I know someone who has taken Plan B at least once (and thought about taking it at least 2 other times that I know of) within about 4 or 5 months, as the longest time span. She did not think that she would be able to take regular birth control (remembering to take it every day, kinda big to begin with and knew someone who gained lots of weight with depo). I do not doubt that there are plenty of other women out there who would feel the same way.

Heck, when there is a woman out there who admits to having already had 15+ actual abortions (which are more expensive than bc or Plan B almost certainly), I do not doubt that there are lots of women who would consider Plan B to be much more convenient than birth control, since they would be taking it after the fact, not remembering to take it every day to prevent pregnancy.
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You know a woman who took it ONCE? So, your answer is no then.
 
kerussll said:
You know a woman who took it ONCE? So, your answer is no then.
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I know she planned to take it at least twice more, but she was having an issue getting the money for it.
 
roguenuke said:
As I said earlier, I know someone who has taken Plan B at least once (and thought about taking it at least 2 other times that I know of) within about 4 or 5 months, as the longest time span. She did not think that she would be able to take regular birth control (remembering to take it every day, kinda big to begin with and knew someone who gained lots of weight with depo). I do not doubt that there are plenty of other women out there who would feel the same way.

Heck, when there is a woman out there who admits to having already had 15+ actual abortions (which are more expensive than bc or Plan B almost certainly), I do not doubt that there are lots of women who would consider Plan B to be much more convenient than birth control, since they would be taking it after the fact, not remembering to take it every day to prevent pregnancy.
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Once every 4 or 5 months is "regular"?

On what planet?
 
sangha said:
Once every 4 or 5 months is "regular"?

On what planet?
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If you were to take the morning after pill about 3 times a year, you would probably have some sort of lasting negative effects. Have they tested this yet? Does anyone know?

Also, they said took it once and thought about taking it 1 or 2 more times in 4-5 months. That makes it 2 to 3 times in 4-5 months. For this type of medicine, that is not healthy.
 
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lovetosing4678 said:
If you were to take the morning after pill about 3 times a year, you would probably have some sort of lasting negative effects. Have they tested this yet? Does anyone know?

Also, they said took it once and thought about taking it 1 or 2 more times in 4-5 months. That makes it 2 to 3 times in 4-5 months. For this type of medicine, that is not healthy.
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Let me guess.....you got your medical degree from a box of Cracker Jacks
 
sangha said:
Once every 4 or 5 months is "regular"?

On what planet?
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If the person I knew could have gotten the money for it 2 more times (assuming she didn't and I just didn't know about it) that would have meant that she would have taken it 3 times in 4 or 5 months. That is most likely more times than it is meant to be taken within such a time frame.

It is meant to be "emergency" contraceptive. Putting it on the shelf means that people will think it is safe to take every other day for however long they need to take it, which I'm betting it isn't meant to be taken that often.
 
roguenuke said:
If the person I knew could have gotten the money for it 2 more times (assuming she didn't and I just didn't know about it) that would have meant that she would have taken it 3 times in 4 or 5 months. That is most likely more times than it is meant to be taken within such a time frame.

It is meant to be "emergency" contraceptive. Putting it on the shelf means that people will think it is safe to take every other day for however long they need to take it, which I'm betting it isn't meant to be taken that often.
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So three times in four months is "regular birth control"?

Again, on what planet?
 
lovetosing4678 said:
Obama: Morning-after pill decision 'common sense'


What do you think? Should this pill be allowed to be sold next to the condoms? They are about $50, according to the article, so people most likely wouldn't be buying them as they do condoms. Also, think of how often the pharmacy is often open. I know that sometimes when I have a cold by the time I can get to the store the pharmacy is closed. The sooner you take this pill the more effective it is. So what do you think?
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I don't have a problem with that. One merely has to show proof of being 17. We should let 5-year-olds buy them? (Just exaggerating to the absurd, btw.)
 
sangha said:
So three times in four months is "regular birth control"?

Again, on what planet?
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Considering that Plan B is an acute dose of the hormones used in regular, daily birth control, which requires a prescription to get and some women cannot get that prescription due to health problems they have, yes. 3 times in four months using a drug that is described as "emergency" contraceptive is too much and needs to be left behind the counter so that the person using it that often understands the increased risk from using it that often (which I'm sure there is). At the very least the pharmacist can take a minute or two to explain the risks and offer alternatives to women who are taking using it as regular birth control.

How often do you think women fear getting pregnant? Do you think that all single women or women of childbearing age just go out and have sex every night or every other night? The girl I know had sex very little. Those times for her wanting to take Plan B most likely also corresponded with those nights that she had sex without a condom.

Now, can you imagine a girl who was able to get the money anytime she needed it and who had unprotected sex more than once a week who decided Plan B would work better for her than regular birth control pills? Some like their lives of ignorant bliss, believing nothing will happen to them. Then they get scared and use the quick fix to deal with what may become a problem, with no regard for the future consequences of those actions.
 
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