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You have no idea who I voted for (or you'd know I didn't vote at all lol). This is why you are impossible to debate with - you are filled with argumentative fallacies and preconceived notions.
If you voted you voted straight ticket democrat and you will again. Bend it like Beckham, twist it like your sister...its all the same hypocrisy and bull****. Supporters of OWS vote democrat. Did before...will again. And we both know it...everyone does. Kinda puts that whole indignation about political influence in perspective.
 
If you voted you voted straight ticket democrat and you will again. Bend it like Beckham, twist it like your sister...its all the same hypocrisy and bull****. Supporters of OWS vote democrat. Did before...will again. And we both know it...everyone does. Kinda puts that whole indignation about political influence in perspective.

Then how is it different from the ****ing Tea Party?

Why should you bitch about one and not the other?
 
If you voted you voted straight ticket democrat and you will again. Bend it like Beckham, twist it like your sister...its all the same hypocrisy and bull****. Supporters of OWS vote democrat. Did before...will again. And we both know it...everyone does. Kinda puts that whole indignation about political influence in perspective.

I have voted a straight ticket before, but I was young (it was in '04 so I was only 21). I have never done it since and I won't do it either.

You should work on your ESP skills or buy some new tarot cards.
 
Then how is it different from the ****ing Tea Party?

Why should you bitch about one and not the other?
The Tea Party ousted establishment republicans. How many times do we hear Obama and democrats bemoaning the change in congress caused by the Tea Party? Make up your mind for Gods sake.
 
Not exactly. TEA party people ran in GOP primaries because they understood what splitting the conservative vote would do. There were and are plenty of old time Republicans who just wish the TEA party went away.

Possibly. I am not here to critique the Tea Party though, only VanceMack's holier-than-now opinion of it.
 
I have voted a straight ticket before, but I was young (it was in '04 so I was only 21). I have never done it since and I won't do it either.

You should work on your ESP skills or buy some new tarot cards.

I mean ive never even voted a straight ticket!
I got the CPUSA
the DSUSA
the SPUSA
the Greens!
;):)
 
I have voted a straight ticket before, but I was young (it was in '04 so I was only 21). I have never done it since and I won't do it either.

You should work on your ESP skills or buy some new tarot cards.
I predict my guess is spot on. I predict the majority of people on this site that back OWS voted for democrats and will again. Its kinda funny to see you protesting. I can understand it...I'd be embarrassed if I was protesting the bribers and electing the bribe takers too.
 
I predict my guess is spot on. I predict the majority of people on this site that back OWS voted for democrats and will again. Its kinda funny to see you protesting. I can understand it...I'd be embarrassed if I was protesting the bribers and electing the bribe takers too.

Such as who?
 
Such as who?
Its not too hard to see who. See Liberal/Very Liberal under your name. Observe positions on issues.

We'll see next year, wont we. When all of you have voted a third party candidate I will well and truly be shocked, amazed and humbled. You will excuse of course that I dont hold my breath.
 
Its not too hard to see who. See Liberal/Very Liberal under your name. Observe positions on issues.

We'll see next year, wont we. When all of you have voted a third party candidate I will well and truly be shocked, amazed and humbled. You will excuse of course that I dont hold my breath.

Do you always vote for 3rd party candidates?
 
Do you always vote for 3rd party candidates?
I'd vote for Hillary. Id vote to change the constitution and bring back Bill. I vote third party and independents. I guarantee you I couldnt bring myself to vote for someone that was taking bribes when I spent so much effort pretending to give a **** about it.
 
The Tea Party ousted establishment republicans. How many times do we hear Obama and democrats bemoaning the change in congress caused by the Tea Party? Make up your mind for Gods sake.

They ousted them for people even worse - people willing to hold our nation's integrity hostage to get their way.

Anti-masturbation witches, Bachmann, people like Fincher who want to end government for everyone except himself (again, the guy who gets $250,000 a year in farm subsidies).

There is nothing legitimate that the Tea Party did in its transition from angry movement into government other than **** things up.

Worst idea in the post-WW2 era.

Not saying OWS is going to be better, it will likely be a left-leaning version of the same thing. But I live in Tennessee, for God's sake. I see what the worst of this movement has wrought. People like Blackburn, Desjarlais, and Fincher: people who throw minorities under the bus, take from government freely while bitching about government spending, and abuse their wives and threaten police and can't pay their own bills.

This isn't better. And I'm sick of people thinking that it is. Yeh. Our politicians are bought off, but how is electing derelict, racist, mentally unbalanced people an improvement over people like Dick Lugar or Bob Bennett? How is electing someone like Rand Paul who bitches about the "elite" from a country club an actual improvement?

It's all bull****. We just root for the people whose bull**** we think might make the nation a little better. I've seen nothing in the past two years that says the current Republican trends are going to make this country better.
 
They ousted them for people even worse - people willing to hold our nation's integrity hostage to get their way.

Anti-masturbation witches, Bachmann, people like Fincher who want to end government for everyone except himself (again, the guy who gets $250,000 a year in farm subsidies).

There is nothing legitimate that the Tea Party did in its transition from angry movement into government other than **** things up.

Worst idea in the post-WW2 era.

Not saying OWS is going to be better, it will likely be a left-leaning version of the same thing. But I live in Tennessee, for God's sake. I see what the worst of this movement has wrought. People like Blackburn, Desjarlais, and Fincher: people who throw minorities under the bus, take from government freely while bitching about government spending, and abuse their wives and threaten police and can't pay their own bills.

This isn't better. And I'm sick of people thinking that it is. Yeh. Our politicians are bought off, but how is electing derelict, racist, mentally unbalanced people an improvement over people like Dick Lugar or Bob Bennett? How is electing someone like Rand Paul who bitches about the "elite" from a country club an actual improvement?

It's all bull****. We just root for the people whose bull**** we think might make the nation a little better. I've seen nothing in the past two years that says the current Republican trends are going to make this country better.
Like I said...the whole "we hate bribes and political influence" argument is bull****-you love them, vote for them and will do it again. If you had just admitted it we would have been done two hours ago.
 
Like I said...the whole "we hate bribes and political influence" argument is bull****-you love them, vote for them and will do it again. If you had just admitted it we would have been done two hours ago.

:2wave:
I hate bribes and corporate political influence!!
 
Like I said...the whole "we hate bribes and political influence" argument is bull****-you love them, vote for them and will do it again. If you had just admitted it we would have been done two hours ago.

Bull****, I've said (and you can do the search) that I'd vote for a solid third party that was centrist in nature if such a thing could exist in a HEARTBEAT. I'm so ****ing sick and tired of the corrupt two party system that I want to bust heads; but I won't do it while the Tea Party runs the right - especially now that we know that the Tea Party is largely just a re-branding of the religious right wing of the Republican Party. That's the one group I will vote to negate and I don't care who I vote for - as long as it negates the votes of those who want to suppress individual freedoms.

Honestly, it sounds like there might even be candidates you and I could agree upon were it possible in the current system; but sadly, the two party system appears to be pushing us further apart.

If you can find someone to vote for that we can agree upon, I'd do it. If Hillary ran as an independent, I'd do it. IN A SECOND. But that's not going to happen. So now what?
 
Bull****, I've said (and you can do the search) that I'd vote for a solid third party that was centrist in nature if such a thing could exist in a HEARTBEAT. I'm so ****ing sick and tired of the corrupt two party system that I want to bust heads; but I won't do it while the Tea Party runs the right - especially now that we know that the Tea Party is largely just a re-branding of the religious right wing of the Republican Party. That's the one group I will vote to negate and I don't care who I vote for - as long as it negates the votes of those who want to suppress individual freedoms.

Honestly, it sounds like there might even be candidates you and I could agree upon were it possible in the current system; but sadly, the two party system appears to be pushing us further apart.

If you can find someone to vote for that we can agree upon, I'd do it. If Hillary ran as an independent, I'd do it. IN A SECOND. But that's not going to happen. So now what?
Find one, write one in, or be a hypocrite. Your world. As long as people continue to 'settle' in resignation, the two party system thrives.
 
Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

Not a good analogy at all. The civil rights movement was truly a peaceful movement. This one is not.


j-mac
Selective memory? The protesters were peaceful. What they got in return was unmitigated violence from law enforcement officers.
 
That still does not explain your ability to focus the blame on one party and one group.

Then you totally miss the point of the entire conversation. I am not saying one party, or group have sole ownership of this mess. Unless you want to label "Progressive" attitudes in that, and they cross the party lines.

The actual cause is being overlooked purposely IMHO, largely because so many would be drummed out of their cushy positions in DC for this criminal ****.

No one is disputing that some democrats made mistakes and some people took out loans they couldn't afford.

Made mistakes? Are you joking here? Look, you have thousands of young people being led by the unions, hacks, and agent provocateur anarchists at Wall St., and across the country railing against the banks for gaming a system that they couldn't for decades due to regulation in place that was enforced. Then as the video showed Frank and other demo's dressing down a regulator for going after Franklin Raines for gaming that very system and shuffling off with not just a couple million, but over $90 Million dollars in golden parachute, when he should be in jail for this ****!

OWS is railing against the wrong people if they really want the crux of the matter. Banks could not have done what they did unless those in congress that wanted to buy votes with houses didn't turn a blind eye to putting a stop to it, in fact they encouraged it, and possibly forced it.

Why is that the only thing you care about?

Because they are still doing it for God's sake...tink, tink, tink....HELLO!

(And why are we talking about it on this thread?)

Because the conversation branched into what the OWS people are even doing out there, and some misinformation was put out there by the liberals, and quasi non liberal, liberals out here, and so to understand why, who, how, and how deep this spectacle is you have to understand what was the start of this crap.

j-mac
 
Honestly, it sounds like there might even be candidates you and I could agree upon were it possible in the current system; but sadly, the two party system appears to be pushing us further apart.

I got a hint for ya, it isn't the parties that are driving people apart in this country, it is the guy at the top that promised a less divisive America, when in fact all he has done from the start is jab everyone in the ribs, and say 'you gonna take that?'


j-mac
 
Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

Selective memory? The protesters were peaceful. What they got in return was unmitigated violence from law enforcement officers.


My God man, take a look at what you said and what I said....

Me: The civil rights movement was a peaceful movement.

You: The protesters were peaceful.

So we agree.


j-mac
 
i find it funny how the police at first tried to spin the story saying they were surrounded and therefore they HAD to pepper spray the studant protestors. but within minutes of it happening we had six video's from six different angles popping up on the net that were not in support of the police story. looks like WE are watching YOU big brother so you had better behave next time!!!
 
Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

My God man, take a look at what you said and what I said....

Me: The civil rights movement was a peaceful movement.

You: The protesters were peaceful.



So we agree.


j-mac
The next time you want peace and quiet get the K9 patrol to sic the German Shepherds on you while the beat cops spray you with fire hoses.

Other than that, we do agree.
 
Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

The next time you want peace and quiet get the K9 patrol to sic the German Shepherds on you while the beat cops spray you with fire hoses.

Other than that, we do agree.


Apples, and Bowling Balls friend.


j-mac
 
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