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Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

TurtleDude said:
the richest one percent, the richest 5 percent pay more of the federal income tax burden now than at any point in the last 7 decades. Seems to me that group is paying enough
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More Americans contributed to their country in taxes and all fit American men served their country in the draft. This contributed greatly to spirit of America and the understanding of other Americans from every part of the country. Now that spirit is waning and there are Red and Blue States, the "What's the matter with Kansas" attitudes, and attacks on 'the rich' to pay for the social engineering experiments. We can see the consequences of this playing out on our newscasts every day.
 
The Barbarian said:
Really kind of a confusing post, you say that we pay more then many other counties in taxes, yet you want to raise our taxes, will you be happy when we pay more than any other country???
It's also been pointed out that we pay more in health care then most other countries, yet you want to increase our spending on health care. I just can't help but to wonder as a modern day liberal, is there any solution with you people that doesn't call for even more spending? Forgive me for saying this .... but it's just that kind of thinking that has this country of ours 15 trillion dollars in debt.



Yes we can do better, I don't think anyone is arguing that point, but you fail to point on a very important factor, we have the very best health care in the world. To those that have decent health care insurance, or the money to pay for their health care, we have the best, bar none. Our problem is not the health care that we have, it's in making it more affordable to those that don't have it. We disagree in a major way, because there are still over 70% of the people that have access to our health care, and I don't think that we should diminish the quality of what we have, as we seem to be doing with the health care bill we now have. But again .. I understand that with liberals like yourself, the answer to all our problems is just to spend more on a problem and that will fix it.
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Good points, and to make for more competition the Health Care insurers must also be allowed. Insurance Companies Should Be Allowed to Sell Policies Across State Lines - WSJ.com
 
Phys251 said:
LOL, a childish flame, factless post, goalpost shift, and strawman all rolled into one. Nicely done! :D
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You described the left when talking about the right. Its called a correction. Correcting mistakes is not a strawman or a goal post shift, but sure the way I did it is a bit childish.

Haymarket said:
So it should be easy for someone of your mental capacity then. Please, do explain what this means

Illuminate us. Edify us. Inform us. Teach us.

I suspect even you don't know what you wrote and cannot do so.
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Should I go through a list of spending you desire or you should you just admit the meaning of what I said is obvious?
 
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Grant said:
There is no doubt that education standards in the United States has dropped. This is reflected by those participating in the OWS protests whenever they're given a chance to speak, as well as what frequently appears on these boards.
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Good observation. For example, "standards" is plural so it would incorrect to say that they "has" dropped.
 
Grant said:
There is no doubt that education standards in the United States has dropped. This is reflected by those participating in the OWS protests whenever they're given a chance to speak, as well as what frequently appears on these boards. The United States, as well as Britain, was once looked upon as the gold standard in education but that has obviously changed over the past generation.

You can deny it or do something about it, but there is no doubt that without remaining competitive in education the United States will continue its slide vis a vis other nations. The natural wealth and freedoms many Americans still feel is their birthright and the natural order of things, will continue to slip away. It is not written in the stars that the superior lifestyle Americans have enjoyed over the decades is a thing of permanence. Americans have recently changed their philosophy and attitudes and, as they do so, their prominence in the world will drift away. Ideas have consequences and the ideas of the Left always and inevitably have amazing similar consequences.

International Competitiveness | Teachers Union Facts
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Nice strawman you've created there.

Who's arguing that point?

You were pointing the finger at the cause of the demise of the education standards towards teachers unions. I merely pointed out that teachers are 63% NON union. Not to mention that policy setting administrators are probably 100% NON union.
 
Henrin said:
Should I go through a list of spending you desire or you should you just admit the meaning of what I said is obvious?
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Sure, by all means, produce the list, examine it, go through it and then tell us what you meant by that comment directed to me.

You want to balance the book by keeping things around you shouldn't. That is what you are doing..
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This should be good. :cool:
 
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j-mac said:
Yep, and sad at the same time. Think about it.


j-mac
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I have j. More than anyone should. Now if I could just get you to think a little more. Well, that's another issue.

:coffeepap
 
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