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Fantastic, government mandated insurance. I think that will take the conversation in another direction. Just another program that should not be at the Federal level.

Fantastic indeed. It succeeded in cutting the poverty rate among the elderly in half.
 
Just another program that should not be at the Federal level.

Which is not an opinion shared by most of America and all of the presidential candidates. Not one of them has talked about abolishing SS.
 
Fantastic indeed. It succeeded in cutting the poverty rate among the elderly in half.

Really? What is the amount of SS collected by the poor and then what is the poverty amount in this country?
 
No, that isn't fantastic. It should be at the local level, not the federal level.

Then argue it is a good deal that needs to be moved to the state level. And ask the states if they want it. If not, then what?
 
i really love how Conservatives quote the Constitution (not actually quoting it, they just say the word "Constitution") saying that because something isn't in there, we shouldn't do it...yeah tell me if this makes sense, for our current problems that we face as a nation we should rely on a document that was created 200 plus years ago, and we shouldn't change it to fit our present day environment. And for the record, the Constitution does say provide for the general welfare, and when translated into todays terms, yeah people can get some money when they don't have a job, or they can get help paying for food, or health insurance.
 
actually moving it to the state level, is not a bad idea, but i don't see how it fixes the problem.
 
i really love how Conservatives quote the Constitution (not actually quoting it, they just say the word "Constitution") saying that because something isn't in there, we shouldn't do it...yeah tell me if this makes sense, for our current problems that we face as a nation we should rely on a document that was created 200 plus years ago, and we shouldn't change it to fit our present day environment. And for the record, the Constitution does say provide for the general welfare, and when translated into todays terms, yeah people can get some money when they don't have a job, or they can get help paying for food, or health insurance.

The original Constitution said PROMOTE the General Welfare but politicians learned that they can buy votes changed to word to provide and liberals today continue to support that policy which does nothing but expand the role of the govt. and creating more dependence

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
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actually moving it to the state level, is not a bad idea, but i don't see how it fixes the problem.

I don't think it does. And while I don't oppose moving it, I suspect the states will object. I could be wrong, but would be interested in hearing more.
 
Looks like the OWS crowd has a lot of work to do especially to get 4 more years of Obama

USA Today/Gallup Poll: Romney, Gingrich Beat Obama in 12 Swing States

Keep in mind though, those polls can change drastically when the real Presidential Race begins. Obama has just now started taking some shots at the GOP candidates, but remember Obama has something like a billion dollars to spend. Hes a president in a bad economy, that right there is a huge advantage to the GOP, but I still predict Obama winning.
 
Keep in mind though, those polls can change drastically when the real Presidential Race begins. Obama has just now started taking some shots at the GOP candidates, but remember Obama has something like a billion dollars to spend. Hes a president in a bad economy, that right there is a huge advantage to the GOP, but I still predict Obama winning.

Barack Obama won't get 40% of the vote in TX and although not a swing state it is an example of what can be done at the state level if the govt. has the political will to do what is right.

Texas comptroller declares economic recession over - BusinessWeek
 
Keep in mind though, those polls can change drastically when the real Presidential Race begins. Obama has just now started taking some shots at the GOP candidates, but remember Obama has something like a billion dollars to spend. Hes a president in a bad economy, that right there is a huge advantage to the GOP, but I still predict Obama winning.


What a sad commentary that would be were it to become a reality.

J-mac
 
What a sad commentary that would be were it to become a reality.

J-mac

It is sad if republicans fail to field a viable option, but looking at the current corp, that is a possibility.
 
It is sad if republicans fail to field a viable option, but looking at the current corp, that is a possibility.

What you perceive as a viable candidate was destroyed when the Democrats nominated Barack Obama who lacked the resume and experience for the job. Everyone of those on the Republican side has more experience than Obama had when he was elected
 
What you perceive as a viable candidate was destroyed when the Democrats nominated Barack Obama who lacked the resume and experience for the job. Everyone of those on the Republican side has more experience than Obama had when he was elected

You may not see it, but who matters against him matters. His supporters likely wish you'd run Bachman or Perry. Newt is smart, but does carry a lot of bagage. You claim to have been around awhile. if that is true, you remember how unpopular he was. And do you really think it would be hard to dredge all that up?

Romeny is the least objectionable among the contenters, but also the least inspiring.

Paul is interesting, but can't seem to get the support needed.

Like I said, who republicans pick matters.
 
So you have to approve of the republican nominee?

J-mac

Nope. A comon dodge on your part. But being a thinking person, I can speculate and see problems. You could as well, if you took the time to look it over. :doh
 
You may not see it, but who matters against him matters. His supporters likely wish you'd run Bachman or Perry. Newt is smart, but does carry a lot of bagage. You claim to have been around awhile. if that is true, you remember how unpopular he was. And do you really think it would be hard to dredge all that up?

Romeny is the least objectionable among the contenters, but also the least inspiring.

Paul is interesting, but can't seem to get the support needed.

Like I said, who republicans pick matters.

The Obama record matters more to me and if forced to choose Newt I will vote AGAINST Obama rather than voting for Newt. Any of those Republicans are better qualified than Obama yet he won the election. He had his chance and failed. I prefer the Conservative alternative which has been successful in TX

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9RJ86OG1.htm
 
Only in the world of partisan politics would Obama's performance have a chance of validation with an extension.
 
Only in the world of partisan politics would Obama's performance have a chance of validation with an extension.

Don't be confuse and misread things. Many simply won't consider the fire better than the frying pan. You do have to present a better alternative.
 
Nope. A comon dodge on your part. But being a thinking person, I can speculate and see problems. You could as well, if you took the time to look it over. :doh


No dodge here, I was merely commenting on how you spoke as though you had to approve of our nominee. However if you want to talk dodge, then why are you not addressing your own presidents failures, instead of just stirring ****?

J-mac
 
The Obama record matters more to me and if forced to choose Newt I will vote AGAINST Obama rather than voting for Newt. Any of those Republicans are better qualified than Obama yet he won the election. He had his chance and failed. I prefer the Conservative alternative which has been successful in TX

Texas comptroller declares economic recession over - BusinessWeek

Unfortunately for you, more than you get to vote.

Do we really ahve to over the problems with Texas again? :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
 
Don't be confuse and misread things. Many simply won't consider the fire better than the frying pan. You do have to present a better alternative.


A house plant would be better.

J-mac
 
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