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Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

Conservative said:
So then the answer is nothing, there is no legislation that has been proposed by Obama that would have benefited the economy that the Republicans filibustered. Typical liberal talking points.
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Come on Conservative...really? I'm guessing that when these major bills were passing you considered the filibusters and attempted filibusters in order to get concessions a victory and now you're saying they didn't exist.
 
Boo Radley said:
1st, presidents don't have control. Congress has more, but still limited and not able to fix the problems we ahve. Government is not the answer, especially limited government. If you want to hold government responsible, you have to give government control. I don't advise that. You seem to be arguing for government control, and I don't think you realize it.

Second, it's not a bad thing to be smart. So, criticising Obama for being smart is kind of silly. That said, being smart doesn't mean you do things outside your ability or what is allowed by law.

Just saying.. . . :coffeepap
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Why did you vote for Obama and did you expect the kind of results we have today? Where are his leadership skills, the transparence, as well as keeping his promise about uniting the country? He had a mandate and blew it showing his true Community Organizer colors. His class warfare rhetoric does nothing but divide not unite and the results are a disaster
 
Conservative said:
you are going to be battling for a long time because it does appear that you will never achieve that top 1% even though you have a chance in this country to do that.
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OH yeah i have the "chance" to get into the top 1 percent i agree but chances of anyone on my level being able to do that is about 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%...the thing a lot of Conservatives don't seem to understand is that not everyone can be rich, in a Capitalist system or in almost any system, you can only have a certain amount of rich people, there is only a certain amount of money in the economy and as the years have gone on, that money has been shoved all to the top, wealth/dollars are not just created out of thin air, they are simply transferred from one owner to another.
 
iliveonramen said:
Come on Conservative...really? I'm guessing that when these major bills were passing you considered the filibusters and attempted filibusters in order to get concessions a victory and now you're saying they didn't exist.
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You are guessing but have nothing concrete because Obama has failed miserably yet you continue to buy the rhetoric. Obama cannot run on his record and knows it. With people like you ignoring that record and blaming everyone else but Obama he could be successful in getting another 4 years. This country cannot afford 4 more years of Obama
 
FFDP666 said:
OH yeah i have the "chance" to get into the top 1 percent i agree but chances of anyone on my level being able to do that is about 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%...the thing a lot of Conservatives don't seem to understand is that not everyone can be rich, in a Capitalist system or in almost any system, you can only have a certain amount of rich people, there is only a certain amount of money in the economy and as the years have gone on, that money has been shoved all to the top, wealth/dollars are not just created out of thin air, they are simply transferred from one owner to another.
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Yes, everyone can be rich with rich being defined the way you want it. Protesting never created one job, whining and complaining never put food on the table. The economic pie isn't finite, it continues to grow. If you want part of it get away from the entitlement mentality and earn it.
 
Conservative said:
You are guessing but have nothing concrete because Obama has failed miserably yet you continue to buy the rhetoric. Obama cannot run on his record and knows it. With people like you ignoring that record and blaming everyone else but Obama he could be successful in getting another 4 years. This country cannot afford 4 more years of Obama
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I don't want to vote for Obama, but if it comes between him and any of the GOP candidates, I'm going to be forced to vote for Obama,m he is the lesser of two evils and that is by a hair, or even less...
 
AdamT said:
Your answer: U.S. Senate: Reference Home > 111th
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You don't have a clue what most of those bills even include. What economic policies were filibustered that Obama wanted that would have helped the economy? His results speak for themselves and his major economic policy was the STimulus, how did that work out for us?
 
Conservative said:
Why did you vote for Obama and did you expect the kind of results we have today? Where are his leadership skills, the transparence, as well as keeping his promise about uniting the country? He had a mandate and blew it showing his true Community Organizer colors. His class warfare rhetoric does nothing but divide not unite and the results are a disaster
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I voted for him because he was the better choice. And given the same choice, would do so again. And if you pick a Newt or a Perry or a one of the nutters, I'll vote for him again as well.

And no one who parrots fox can say a thing about class warefare, as you reak of it.

Now, do you have anything to say about what I actually wrote? :coffeepap
 
FFDP666 said:
I don't want to vote for Obama, but if it comes between him and any of the GOP candidates, I'm going to be forced to vote for Obama,m he is the lesser of two evils and that is by a hair, or even less...
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If you think anyone on that stage would have created the 4.5 trillion debt since January 21, 2009, had a net job loss, had a declining labor force, and a rising misery index, then vote for Obama because those are his results.
 
Conservative said:
You don't have a clue what most of those bills even include. What economic policies were filibustered that Obama wanted that would have helped the economy? His results speak for themselves and his major economic policy was the STimulus, how did that work out for us?
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Read throught the list, Con. I'm sure even you will recognize many of the jobs bills that your wingnut pals have killed or watered down.
 
Boo Radley said:
I voted for him because he was the better choice. And given the same choice, would do so again. And if you pick a Newt or a Perry or a one of the nutters, I'll vote for him again as well.

And no one who parrots fox can say a thing about class warefare, as you reak of it.

Now, do you have anything to say about what I actually wrote? :coffeepap
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oh, I see, anyone that disagrees with you and does so with bea.gov, bls.gov, and U.S. Treasury date is parroting Fox News? Do you realize how stupid that is?
 
Conservative said:
Yes, everyone can be rich with rich being defined the way you want it. Protesting never created one job, whining and complaining never put food on the table. The economic pie isn't finite, it continues to grow. If you want part of it get away from the entitlement mentality and earn it.
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OH YEAH protesting never got anybody ANYTHING EVER!....its not like history has shown us that when massive amounts of people get together and protest and organize, big change can happen. but then again, I'm sure your happy with Derivatives being totally unregulated, and us having massive debt issues but still won't accept a single cent being raised on higher earners.
 
AdamT said:
Read throught the list, Con. I'm sure even you will recognize many of the jobs bills that your wingnut pals have killed or watered down.
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I recognize many of the bills with most of them actually passing. Still waiting for the bills that Obama wanted that would have generated less debt, more jobs, and a growing labor force
 
AND I JUST LOVE how you catorgorize me into one of your nice little jars of people nicely labeled "Lazy Liberal who don't want to ever work for anything just get money from the government"
 
FFDP666 said:
OH YEAH protesting never got anybody ANYTHING EVER!....its not like history has shown us that when massive amounts of people get together and protest and organize, big change can happen. but then again, I'm sure your happy with Derivatives being totally unregulated, and us having massive debt issues but still won't accept a single cent being raised on higher earners.
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The T.E.A. Party generated positive results, the OWS created civil unrest, results matter
 
FFDP666 said:
AND I JUST LOVE how you catorgorize me into one of your nice little jars of people nicely labeled "Lazy Liberal who don't want to ever work for anything just get money from the government"
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Then you need to change your leanings as well changing your attitude
 
Thunder said:
there is nothing positive about the results of the TP party.
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LOL, yep, the 2010 elections and then the Va and Mississippie Legislative elections in 2011 say differently. There is a silent majority out there that liberals like you want to ignore
 
AdamT said:
Read throught the list, Con. I'm sure even you will recognize many of the jobs bills that your wingnut pals have killed or watered down.
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It's a waste of time...It's why I didn't post a list of news articles and threatened filibusters on both the stimulus and Frank-Dodd....he knows the filibuster was threatened on every single piece of legislation. I don't know who he thinks he's fooling.

Edit: He just moves the bar. First he's arguing Obama had complete total control of Congress like it rubber stamped legislation. He then moves the bar to filibustered economic plans. He then moves the bar to "proving" any legislation lowers debt/increases jobs etc.
 
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Conservative said:
oh, I see, anyone that disagrees with you and does so with bea.gov, bls.gov, and U.S. Treasury date is parroting Fox News? Do you realize how stupid that is?
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Wow, you do leap all over the place. Try again. Address exacty what I wrote.

Let me help by repeating:

1st, presidents don't have control. Congress has more, but still limited and not able to fix the problems we ahve. Government is not the answer, especially limited government. If you want to hold government responsible, you have to give government control. I don't advise that. You seem to be arguing for government control, and I don't think you realize it.

Second, it's not a bad thing to be smart. So, criticising Obama for being smart is kind of silly. That said, being smart doesn't mean you do things outside your ability or what is allowed by law.

Just saying.. . . :coffeepap
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Conservative said:
Yes, everyone can be rich with rich being defined the way you want it. Protesting never created one job, whining and complaining never put food on the table. The economic pie isn't finite, it continues to grow. If you want part of it get away from the entitlement mentality and earn it.
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Come on, Con. You're saying that every single person who isn't rich is just lazy? All of them?

I'm a capitalist too and I believe in hard work, but I'm not delusional.
 
iliveonramen said:
It's a waste of time...It's why I didn't post a list of news articles and threatened filibusters on both the stimulus and Frank-Dodd....he knows the filibuster was threatened on every single piece of legislation. I don't know who he thinks he's fooling.

Edit: He just moves the bar. First he's arguing Obama had complete total control of Congress like it rubber stamped legislation. He then moves the bar to filibustered economic plans. He then moves the bar to "proving" any legislation lowers debt/increases jobs etc.
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Tell me what the Scott Brown election did to the power in Congress? You want to hang your hat on another diversion from the Obama record and blame it on the filibuster. Do you ever take responsibility for anything? This leftwing community organizer President sure has you fooled
 
Conservative said:
LOL, yep, the 2010 elections and then the Va and Mississippie Legislative elections in 2011 say differently. There is a silent majority out there that liberals like you want to ignore
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on an issue to issue basis, people usually hold more moderate/liberal views. this is true.
 
Conservative said:
The T.E.A. Party generated positive results, the OWS created civil unrest, results matter
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Well, thats a matter of opinion what the tea party did, but again, civil unrest don't mean jack, people got arrested for standing in a spot to long? oh yeah thats a terrible crime nowadays, also we have some results already, in case you don't know, some in congress are already trying to get an amendment started that will over turn citizens united. i don't think it will happen but ive been wrong before, and according to you i'm always wrong, so maybe theres hope lol
 
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