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Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

mertex said:
We already know what kind of reform the Republicans are suggesting - that's why their bills aren't going anywhere - Thanks to God!

They want to stick it to seniors and the poor, but continue to protect the rich and corporations. I wonder when the middle-class Reps are going to figure it out? Nah, they're too dumb to do so.
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The people obviously did not agree with your assessment last November did they???

And the bills will start becoming next law in a little over a year after the next election and the Democratic stonewall is removed from the Senate.
 
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Catawba said:
LOL!!! You are a fan of Adam Carolla???

I think this helps explain why Republicans are so alarmed about the OWS protests:

"After riding the Tea Party wave, Republicans are on the defensive as the movement draws attention to income inequality—an issue that the GOP has done little to address. If Occupy continues to stoke public anger against the wealthy, Republicans could see a favorable election forecast quickly turn against them."
What's Next for Occupy Wall Street? - The Daily Beast
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That's so true, most cons are still thinking that the Tea Party enthusiasm is still going strong and will aid them in scooping up a lot of votes in the different areas. I guess they are not keeping up with what is happening in Wisc, Ohio and other states where voters have definitely shown they don't like the ideas the Republicans are trying to shove through. They are so sure Gingrich is the "one" - and already Ron Paul has an ad that will remind them that the Newt is actually a chameleon, like Romney!
 
Conservative said:
I believe as usual you attack the messenger and ignore the message. Far too many have forgotten that this entitlement mentality today destroys self reliance and initiative. I cannot believe what I keep reading from you. You ought to know better. The jealousy of people camping out on Wall Street shows just how bankrupt the liberal ideology is and the entitlement mentality that has been created in the youth attending those rallies.
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I'm sure slave owners also thought the slaves were just jealous of the wealth and freedom of their masters. Because wanting economic justice must mean jealousy by your way of thinking?
 
mertex said:
That's so true, most cons are still thinking that the Tea Party enthusiasm is still going strong and will aid them in scooping up a lot of votes in the different areas. I guess they are not keeping up with what is happening in Wisc, Ohio and other states where voters have definitely shown they don't like the ideas the Republicans are trying to shove through. They are so sure Gingrich is the "one" - and already Ron Paul has an ad that will remind them that the Newt is actually a chameleon, like Romney!
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Can you post a link up to Ron Paul's new video about Gingrich? I haven't seen it.
 
Gill said:
The people obviously did not agree with your assessment last November did they???

And the bills will start becoming next law in a little over a year after the next election and the Democratic stonewall is removed from the Senate.
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Last November is old news - things change, just like they did from Nov 2008 to Nov 2010, they are changing again. Most people are not liking the ideas being introduced by Republicans, and they sure understand that Republican ideologies are not in the best interest of middle-class people. Now, when middle-class Republicans are going to get it, that's another thing.
 
mertex said:
Last November is old news - things change, just like they did from Nov 2008 to Nov 2010, they are changing again. Most people are not liking the ideas being introduced by Republicans, and they sure understand that Republican ideologies are not in the best interest of middle-class people. Now, when middle-class Republicans are going to get it, that's another thing.
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Obama's record, deal with it and stop running from it

25 million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)154.1 X 16.2% Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

14.8 million unemployed PLUS Discouraged workers Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

2.2 million fewer jobs(bls.gov) Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics ln : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

4.4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site) Government - Historical Debt Outstanding – Annual Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

1/21/2009 6,307,084,792,840.85 4,317,968,751,468.94 10,625,053,544,309.70

11/22/2011 10,326,530,350,389.40 4,721,461,154,539.92 15,047,991,504,929.30

Down grade of U.S. Credit rating(S&P)

Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.53 The United States Misery Index By Year

38-44% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

US Poverty Hits Record High: 1 in 6 Americans Living Below Poverty Line | Economy Watch
Report: Poverty hits record level - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

“Fast and Furious”, “Wide Receiver”

Solyndra, Fisker, and Crony Capitalism Jobs Panel Member Whose Solar Firm Won Loan Guarantees Raises 'Conflict Of Interest' Concerns | Fox News

Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit
Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit

The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid's Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama's DOE.
The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers.
That's costing us just $16 million per job.

One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG).
The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who is the brother of Nancy's husband.
But there is nothing wrong here, is there?

U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News

Stimulus failure

Review & Outlook:Why the Stimulus Failed - WSJ.com
 
mertex said:
Last November is old news - things change, just like they did from Nov 2008 to Nov 2010, they are changing again. Most people are not liking the ideas being introduced by Republicans, and they sure understand that Republican ideologies are not in the best interest of middle-class people. Now, when middle-class Republicans are going to get it, that's another thing.
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No kidding, that is pretty evident by the lowest approval rating in the last 34 years (9%) for the 2010 Congress! Obama's approval rating is more than 4 times higher than it is for the 2010 Congress!
 
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Catawba said:
No kidding, that is pretty evident by the lowest approval rating in the last 34 years (9%) for the 2010 Congress! Obama's approval rating is more than 4 times higher than it is for the 2010 Congress!
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Wow, the love affair for a President that has a net job loss, added 4.4 trillion to the debt, has a rising misery index, delegates responsibility, spends most of his time fund raising, vacationing, and playing golf, meager economic growth, failed stimulus, 43% approval rating. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
 
Conservative said:
What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
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Here are a few of the reasons:

"1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Oh, and he built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office.

Did I mention he passed health care reform ?"

President Obama’s Accomplishments | 3CHICSPOLITICO
 
Catawba said:
Here are a few of the reasons:

"1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Oh, and he built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office.

Did I mention he passed health care reform ?"

President Obama’s Accomplishments | 3CHICSPOLITICO
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My hasn't Obama cured world hunger yet? What a bunch of bs and typical of a liberal who always claims credit but never responsibility. Amazing, isn't it 43% approval rating, down from the 52% he received in 2008, wonder why? Could it be that the following are the results that people see and understand?

25 million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)154.1 X 16.2% Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

14.8 million unemployed PLUS Discouraged workers Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

2.2 million fewer jobs(bls.gov) Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics ln : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

4.4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site) Government - Historical Debt Outstanding – Annual Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

1/21/2009 6,307,084,792,840.85 4,317,968,751,468.94 10,625,053,544,309.70

11/22/2011 10,326,530,350,389.40 4,721,461,154,539.92 15,047,991,504,929.30

Down grade of U.S. Credit rating(S&P)

Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.53 The United States Misery Index By Year

38-44% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

US Poverty Hits Record High: 1 in 6 Americans Living Below Poverty Line | Economy Watch
Report: Poverty hits record level - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

“Fast and Furious”, “Wide Receiver”

Solyndra, Fisker, and Crony Capitalism Jobs Panel Member Whose Solar Firm Won Loan Guarantees Raises 'Conflict Of Interest' Concerns | Fox News

Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit
Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit

The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid's Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama's DOE.
The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers.
That's costing us just $16 million per job.

One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG).
The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who is the brother of Nancy's husband.
But there is nothing wrong here, is there?

U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News

Stimulus failure

Review & Outlook:Why the Stimulus Failed - WSJ.com
 
Catawba said:
Compared with the lowest approval rating on record for the 2010 Congress (9%).
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Do you even read what is posted or just stick to your talking points? Tell me the relevance of Congressional approval ratings since those aren't national elections? I may have an unfavorable view of your Rep but there is nothing I can do about it. You may not like mine either but you can't do anything about it either so what good is an approval rating?
 
Really? You don't get it? Obama is trying to get things done to improve the economy. Congress -- or Republicans in Congress -- are standing in his way. Obama's approval rating is >4X Congress' approval rating. Ergo....
 
AdamT said:
Really? You don't get it? Obama is trying to get things done to improve the economy. Congress -- or Republicans in Congress -- are standing in his way. Obama's approval rating is >4X Congress' approval rating. Ergo....
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No, you don't get it, this is a private sector economy and to get it moving you don't demonize the private sector and individual wealth creation. It isn't the government's role to micro manage the economy
 
Conservative said:
Do you even read what is posted or just stick to your talking points? Tell me the relevance of Congressional approval ratings since those aren't national elections? I may have an unfavorable view of your Rep but there is nothing I can do about it. You may not like mine either but you can't do anything about it either so what good is an approval rating?
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I've explained the significance to you before when taken with the record low ratings by voters for their own representatives. A record low (33%) say their own representative deserves reelection. This rating has never before been lower than it is now for the 2010 Congress.
 
Catawba said:
I've explained the significance to you before when taken with the record low ratings by voters for their own representatives. A record low (33%) say their own representative deserves reelection. This rating has never before been lower than it is now for the 2010 Congress.
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What low ratings? My Representative will win re-election as probably will be yours. You buy generic polls that you believe support your point of view and ignore reality. What matters are the results of Obama and I have posted them, results you have ignored. Those results are why Obama's approval rating is 43% and quite frankly I am surprised they are that high. Apparently there are a lot of union and minority support still in spite of the deficits and debt along with declining employment.
 
Conservative said:
What low ratings? My Representative will win re-election as probably will be yours. You buy generic polls that you believe support your point of view and ignore reality. What matters are the results of Obama and I have posted them, results you have ignored. Those results are why Obama's approval rating is 43% and quite frankly I am surprised they are that high. Apparently there are a lot of union and minority support still in spite of the deficits and debt along with declining employment.
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You are laughable! You boast of Obama's 43% approval rating and completely ignore that the 2010 Congress approval rating is more than 4 times lower at 9%.
 
Catawba said:
You are laughable! You boast of Obama's 43% approval rating and completely ignore that the 2010 Congress approval rating is more than 4 times lower at 9%.
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I don't know what it is going to take to get through to you. "your" choice for President is a disaster, his results show it, his actions show it, the lack of respect we have in the world shows it and yet you support him. Absolutely amazing. What is it going to take, a depression, default on the debt, a world war to make you wake up and see the failure that you are supporting?
 
Conservative said:
I don't know what it is going to take to get through to you. "your" choice for President is a disaster, his results show it, his actions show it, the lack of respect we have in the world shows it and yet you support him. Absolutely amazing. What is it going to take, a depression, default on the debt, a world war to make you wake up and see the failure that you are supporting?
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That's funny, because I know exactly what it will take to get through to you, the majority of the country reelecting Obama for president next November!

Will you take a vacation from the forum then, or what?
 
Catawba said:
That's funny, because I know exactly what it will take to get through to you, the majority of the country reelecting Obama for president next November!

Will you take a vacation from the forum then, or what?
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If the people are that stupid then the country deserves what they get. I live in TX and won't have to worry about it. He will lose this state by 3 million votes or more. People here understand personal responsibility, apparently many don't. His approval rating is going to have to get higher than 43%. I will be voting for the Republican candidate because I cannot support anyone with this kind of record. why do you?
 
Conservative said:
If the people are that stupid then the country deserves what they get. I live in TX and won't have to worry about it. He will lose this state by 3 million votes or more. People here understand personal responsibility, apparently many don't. His approval rating is going to have to get higher than 43%. I will be voting for the Republican candidate because I cannot support anyone with this kind of record. why do you?
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I'll most likely be voting for him for the same reason I did last time, he is better then the alternatives. As centrist as he may be, he is by far the most progressive of the bunch.

Every single one of the GOP candidates, except Ron Paul, want to continue the same failed trickle down economics of the last 30 years that brought us to where we are today.

The middle class has been bitten too many times by that particular dog to fall for it again.
 
Catawba said:
I'll most likely be voting for him for the same reason I did last time, he is better then the alternatives. As centrist as he may be, he is by far the most progressive of the bunch.

Every single one of the GOP candidates, except Ron Paul, want to continue the same failed trickle down economics of the last 30 years that brought us to where we are today.

The middle class has been bitten too many times by that particular dog to fall for it again.
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You deserve the mess this empty suit has created and will continue. You don't seem to understand leadership at all nor do you understand how to do research. Still waiting for the math that shows 6 trillion less revenue due to the Tax cuts over the past 30 years especially since Clinton raised taxes as did GHW Bush but give it your best shot. I would love to see exactly how much you really know because I am sure not seeing much here, just rants and raving that makes no sense and isn't backed by data.
 
Conservative said:
You deserve the mess this empty suit has created and will continue. You don't seem to understand leadership at all nor do you understand how to do research. Still waiting for the math that shows 6 trillion less revenue due to the Tax cuts over the past 30 years especially since Clinton raised taxes as did GHW Bush but give it your best shot. I would love to see exactly how much you really know because I am sure not seeing much here, just rants and raving that makes no sense and isn't backed by data.
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You forgot already that Obama inherited the recession? Try to get some rest.


Let's do some fact checking:

The Fact Checker

"Strictly speaking, the two big tax cuts during the Bush years are estimated to total about $1.5 trillion, But many continued into the early years of the Obama presidency, and in December he cut a deal with Republicans to extend them even more, which brings us to $2.8 trillion".

Revisiting the cost of the Bush tax cuts - The Fact Checker - The Washington Post

$2 trillion a decade for 3 decades (if we were dumb enough to extend another 3 decades) would be $6 trillion dollars.
 
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Catawba said:
You forgot already that Obama inherited the recession? Try to get some rest.


Let's do some fact checking:

The Fact Checker

"Strictly speaking, the two big tax cuts during the Bush years are estimated to total about $1.5 trillion, But many continued into the early years of the Obama presidency, and in December he cut a deal with Republicans to extend them even more, which brings us to $2.8 trillion".

Revisiting the cost of the Bush tax cuts - The Fact Checker - The Washington Post

$2 trillion a decade for 3 decades (if we were dumb enough to extend another 3 decades) would be $6 trillion dollars.
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All projections and predictions aren't facts and that seems to be a problem for you. You have nothing other than speculation as nothing takes into account economic activity as well as employment changes. You want to believe that you keeping more of what you earn is a problem and I don't understand that.

Further the Bush tax cuts were for every taxpayer not just the rich. your 6 trillion dollar number although a speculation is an estimate on ALL tax cuts not just the rich so repealing them on the rich won't make a hill of beans different and in fact probably will hurt economic activity. You think that raising taxes and taking more money out of the pockets of the taxpayers is going to put 25 million unemployed/under employed Americans back to work full time? You really aren't that naive, are you?
 
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