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Conservative said:
The fact that he claims America has never been successful with their economic policies and his promotion of classware and redistribution of wealth. He used the term fair share at least 14 times never defining it as if people who don't pay any FIT but earn money are paying their fair share. His speech was anti American, anti capitalism, and promotion of a large central govt. with greater control.
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Well, I suspect that's your fox political entertainer's skewed view of what he said. I doubt very seriously it's an accurate well considered analysis on your part. But nothing less than I expected. :coffeepap
 
Conservative said:
Did you listen to the speech yesterday? What an embarrassment this man is to the office. As for specific policies, Obamacare will hurt small businesses, the threat to raise taxes will hurt small businesses, govt. regulations hurt small businesses. Have you ever run a small business?
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I know of no other serious world leader who would ever make such references in a speech. Turning citizens of the same country against each other shows petulance rather than wisdom. It is low politics.
 
Boo Radley said:
Well, I suspect that's your fox political entertainer's skewed view of what he said. I doubt very seriously it's an accurate well considered analysis on your part. But nothing less than I expected. :coffeepap
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You don't know what was said and yet you make these speculations?
 
Grant said:
I know of no other serious world leader who would ever make such references in a speech. Turning citizens of the same country against each other shows petulance rather than wisdom. It is low politics.
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:2funny:

First you guys misrepresent. Then you compare what wasn't done to other leaders. Now that's funny. I don't care who you are.


Not really.
 
Grant said:
You don't know what was said and yet you make these speculations?
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I do know politicans, and I've heard others speak on it. And I am fully familiar with what Fox Political entertainers do, and how the faithful leap on it. Mindless.
 
Boo Radley said:
I do know politicans, and I've heard others speak on it. And I am fully familiar with what Fox Political entertainers do, and how the faithful leap on it. Mindless.
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Fair enough. Then you´re familiar with the speech and agree with him, do you?
 
Grant said:
Fair enough. Then you´re familiar with the speech and agree with him, do you?
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On another thread where someone is mistakenly making leaps, he merely speaks to the myth that we do things completely individually. We don't. Rugged individalism is more myth than fact. All Obama is doing is saying we need to work together.

Now I kow that is what the OP is doing in the other thread. And his link to the speech is working presently. But it was very Foxish. So I suspect the same type of misunderstanding here.
 
Boo Radley said:
On another thread where someone is mistakenly making leaps, he merely speaks to the myth that we do things completely individually. We don't. Rugged individalism is more myth than fact. All Obama is doing is saying we need to work together.

Now I kow that is what the OP is doing in the other thread. And his link to the speech is working presently. But it was very Foxish. So I suspect the same type of misunderstanding here.
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So all you have is your suspicions and you feel the need to share these suspicions with others?
 
Boo Radley said:
On another thread where someone is mistakenly making leaps, he merely speaks to the myth that we do things completely individually. We don't. Rugged individalism is more myth than fact. All Obama is doing is saying we need to work together.

Now I kow that is what the OP is doing in the other thread. And his link to the speech is working presently. But it was very Foxish. So I suspect the same type of misunderstanding here.
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You think Obama is working to unite this country? What exactly has he done to do that? You believe rhetoric attacking individual wealth creation, the evil rich people, demonizing profits promotes working together?
 
Conservative said:
You think Obama is working to unite this country? What exactly has he done to do that? You believe rhetoric attacking individual wealth creation, the evil rich people, demonizing profits promotes working together?
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Can you link me to some of those Obama quotes where he attacks individual wealth creation, calls rich people evil, and demonizes profits? Thanks in advance.
 
AdamT said:
Can you link me to some of those Obama quotes where he attacks individual wealth creation, calls rich people evil, and demonizes profits? Thanks in advance.
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*Bump*

Still looking?
 
AdamT said:
*Bump*

Still looking?
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No, not looking at all, you just ignore anything that is posted that refutes your opinion so it is a waste of time. I gave you the Obama results and you have ignored them, why would this be any different?
 
Boo Radley said:
Nope, I understand the moving perfectly. But in the long run it will hurt them. No one consumes like we do, and if we go broke, no jobs, they lose.

It's not bashing big business, and that is really where you are flawed. It is recognizing the link between business and labor. One can't be successful without the other. Favoring one at the cost of the other is harmful, and recent history ahs been to favor business, and as I said, at the expense of workers. You can call that liberal if in helps you excuse in easier, but I think it is actually reality. We'll see how things progress. ;)
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Now see we agree ... because we'll see how things progress... in my opinion as long as things stay anti business in this country, they will progress badly .. because as you say .. one can't be successful with out the other, and this is where you are flawed ... because in our recent history business and industry has been leaving the US in rather large numbers ... how's that working out for the middle class?
 
Boo Radley said:
Are you talking about the KS speech? I didn't see it, but I did hear a lot of people saying he was spot on, praising him for it. What about that makes it an embarassment? Just curious.
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I believe you can start here

Now, it’s a simple theory. And we have to admit, it’s one that speaks to our rugged individualism and our healthy skepticism of too much government. That’s in America’s DNA. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. (Laughter.) But here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked. (Applause.) It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible postwar booms of the ‘50s and ‘60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade. (Applause.) I mean, understand, it’s not as if we haven’t tried this theory.
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Conservative said:
No, not looking at all, you just ignore anything that is posted that refutes your opinion so it is a waste of time. I gave you the Obama results and you have ignored them, why would this be any different?
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Smart move .... I've found him to be so far out left .... that he can't even see the playing field any more ..
 
Conservative said:
No, not looking at all, you just ignore anything that is posted that refutes your opinion so it is a waste of time.
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So typical. You post crap that you can't back up and then claim that it's a waste of time to refute. Sounds to me like you've been debunked, again!
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mertex said:
Conservative said:
So typical. You post crap that you can't back up and then claim that it's a waste of time to refute. Sounds to me like you've been debunked, again!
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Yep, those OBama results really suck, don't they? Cannot defend them so you ignored them, well, here they are again

24 million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)154.1 X 15.6% Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

14.4 million unemployed PLUS Discouraged workers Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

2.2 million fewer jobs(bls.gov) Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics ln : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

4.4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site) Government - Historical Debt Outstanding – Annual Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

1/21/2009 6,307,084,792,840.85 4,317,968,751,468.94 10,625,053,544,309.70

11/22/2011 10,326,530,350,389.40 4,721,461,154,539.92 15,047,991,504,929.30

Down grade of U.S. Credit rating(S&P)

Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.53 The United States Misery Index By Year

38-44% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

US Poverty Hits Record High: 1 in 6 Americans Living Below Poverty Line | Economy Watch
Report: Poverty hits record level - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

“Fast and Furious”, “Wide Receiver”

Solyndra, Fisker, and Crony Capitalism Jobs Panel Member Whose Solar Firm Won Loan Guarantees Raises 'Conflict Of Interest' Concerns | Fox News

Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit
Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit

The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid's Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama's DOE.
The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers.
That's costing us just $16 million per job.

One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG).
The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who is the brother of Nancy's husband.
But there is nothing wrong here, is there?

U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News
U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News

Stimulus failure

Review & Outlook:Why the Stimulus Failed - WSJ.com
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Conservative said:
No, not looking at all, you just ignore anything that is posted that refutes your opinion so it is a waste of time. I gave you the Obama results and you have ignored them, why would this be any different?
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Yeah, I knew you couldn't back up your wingnut bull****. Thanks for playing.
 
Grant said:
The government played no part in the invention of the automobile or the airplane. There is no precedent in the free world of ever giving any individual many billions of taxpayer dollars, especially one with no fiscal experience at all, to speculate on energy markets.
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The US has a long history of making loans to the auto industry, the railroad industry, and the airline industry. Who was the individual that was given many billions of taxpayers dollars???
 
Grant said:
So all you have is your suspicions and you feel the need to share these suspicions with others?
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No, I have the quote he misrepresented. and now I have the speech. It's posted in the other thread, and his misrepresentations are clear for all who can see to see.
 
Boo Radley said:
Maybe a little more than tea party members understand the constitution and articulate a coherent argument. They seem comparable in this regard.
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The video shows just how intellectually bankrupt liberals are and points out there isn't enough money out there to fund the liberal spending appetite. I am waiting for you to define fair share and how much the rich should pay? Instead of buying what you are told how about thinking for a change?
 
Boo Radley said:
No, I have the quote he misrepresented. and now I have the speech. It's posted in the other thread, and his misrepresentations are clear for all who can see to see.
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Sorry, there has been nothing misrepresented, promotion of rugged individualism and a smaller central govt. has never failed in this country and will never fail because we have 50 sovereign states. The problem with that is it takes power away from liberals who want people dependent.
 
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